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#1 DriftRS
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I really hate Sony's controllers. While the other companies spend money on designing new and improved controllers, Sony keeps thier bad design from so many years ago.

The whole design isn't ergonomic. Look at the curves in the 360 and last gens GC controller, or the DC pad. Each one was designed to fit your hand. The PS1 controller, was a generation after the snes, and it shows. The controller is basically a snes controller with two handles and two extra shoulder buttons. Fine for back then, but these days controllers have advanced, and sony is still to lazy to fix it up.

Here's some nice proof for you. Look at the original PS1 controller. Note the position of the dpad, why is it there? Obviously because thats the easiest place for your thumb to rest during gameplay. Nintendo came out with an analogue stick, so Sony jumped on the bandwagon and released the dual shock. However, Sony believed the dpad was still the main control input, so put the control stick in a more awkward position below the dpad.

Obviously, over time Sony was shown to be wrong, the analog stick was very much the main feature of the controller. Both Nintendo and Microsoft made sure to put it int he right place. As you can see, the left side of the 360 controller is effectivly a PS controller with the thumb stick and d-pad in reversed positions. This was done for a reason, ergonomics. Sony's reasons for thier positioning however, is due to not wanting to spend money on updating the design. In the life of the console they've never fixed that thing up!

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Ive never liked the dualshock design.
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#3 II-FBIsniper-II
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It's not the best design, but a complete overhaul doesn't seem like the right thing to do. All these threads amount to is for people asking for Sony to make the Dual Shock into a 360 controller.
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#4 Furi-Kun
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All controllers feel fine to me. Wii, PS3, 360, Dreamcast, Gamecube, SNES, Genesis etc.
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#5 epic_pets
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I love the ps3 controler;light,comfortable,and looks cool.
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#6 robbie_sla
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they made new controllers... people paid them out for looking like the baterang. sony claimed they where about as comfortable as holding a steering wheel, people said that holding steering wheels were not anywhere near as comfortable as sony made it out to be. they gave in to consumer pressure. otherwise we would all be having fun with our baterangs
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I like the anaolg stick positioning, I just think the sticks themselves could be improved.
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#8 DriftRS
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'm not saying it needs a re-design, I just think it could do with a better shaped body that more fits your hands, like the GC and 360 controllers. And maybe swap the stick and dpad around while they're at it
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I really hate Sony's controllers. While the other companies spend money on designing new and improved controllers, Sony keeps thier bad design from so many years ago.

The whole design isn't ergonomic. Look at the curves in the 360 and last gens GC controller, or the DC pad. Each one was designed to fit your hand. The PS1 controller, was a generation after the snes, and it shows. The controller is basically a snes controller with two handles and two extra shoulder buttons. Fine for back then, but these days controllers have advanced, and sony is still to lazy to fix it up.

Here's some nice proof for you. Look at the original PS1 controller. Note the position of the dpad, why is it there? Obviously because thats the easiest place for your thumb to rest during gameplay. Nintendo came out with an analogue stick, so Sony jumped on the bandwagon and released the dual shock. However, Sony believed the dpad was still the main control input, so put the control stick in a more awkward position below the dpad.

Obviously, over time Sony was shown to be wrong, the analog stick was very much the main feature of the controller. Both Nintendo and Microsoft made sure to put it int he right place. As you can see, the left side of the 360 controller is effectivly a PS controller with the thumb stick and d-pad in reversed positions. This was done for a reason, ergonomics. Sony's reasons for thier positioning however, is due to not wanting to spend money on updating the design. In the life of the console they've never fixed that thing up!

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If you say so.

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I really hate Sony's controllers. While the other companies spend money on designing new and improved controllers, Sony keeps thier bad design from so many years ago.

The whole design isn't ergonomic. Look at the curves in the 360 and last gens GC controller, or the DC pad. Each one was designed to fit your hand. The PS1 controller, was a generation after the snes, and it shows. The controller is basically a snes controller with two handles and two extra shoulder buttons. Fine for back then, but these days controllers have advanced, and sony is still to lazy to fix it up.

Here's some nice proof for you. Look at the original PS1 controller. Note the position of the dpad, why is it there? Obviously because thats the easiest place for your thumb to rest during gameplay. Nintendo came out with an analogue stick, so Sony jumped on the bandwagon and released the dual shock. However, Sony believed the dpad was still the main control input, so put the control stick in a more awkward position below the dpad.

Obviously, over time Sony was shown to be wrong, the analog stick was very much the main feature of the controller. Both Nintendo and Microsoft made sure to put it int he right place. As you can see, the left side of the 360 controller is effectivly a PS controller with the thumb stick and d-pad in reversed positions. This was done for a reason, ergonomics. Sony's reasons for thier positioning however, is due to not wanting to spend money on updating the design. In the life of the console they've never fixed that thing up!

DriftRS

Just because u hate it..doesnt mean they should redesign it or whatever..frankly i think its the best controller on ANY system to date... Its comfortable... its not designed for FAT hands (xbox) and it doesnt have weird designs like the gamecube or Wii controllers

u fail.
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Just because u hate it..doesnt mean they should redesign it or whatever..frankly i think its the best controller on ANY system to date... Its comfortable... its not designed for FAT hands (xbox) and it doesnt have weird designs like the gamecube or Wii controllers

u fail.

LOL I actually laughed at that one.

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#12 DriftRS
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Just because u hate it..doesnt mean they should redesign it or whatever..frankly i think its the best controller on ANY system to date... Its comfortable... its not designed for FAT hands (xbox) and it doesnt have weird designs like the gamecube or Wii controllers

u fail. campzor

Too each thier own... but you really should try some other controllers as well. The 360 controller isn't at all designed for fat hands, and is suprisingly thin. And yes, the GC controller had some odd buttons layouts, but it was very ergonomical, and your thumb perfectly rested over the A and Y buttons, and the X button was a quick roll of your thumb away.

You may have gotten used to the playstation controller, but it really wasn't built with ergonomics in mind. No fault of sony's I mean, it was gens ago when companies only just started trying to mold nicer controllers, it was good for the time. It simply hasn't been updated since like everyone elses controllers have.

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It's the flappy padels on the back that bug me the most, i hate them.
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#14 JLF1
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I have yet to see a game's score been affected by the DS3 design here on GS but I have seen reviews of games on the 360 that has complained about the 360's gamepad and lowered the score because of that.

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mostly I don't care, it gets the jobs done

in fact I've never really had a problem with any controller

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#16 MightyMuna
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DualShock is the best controller ever made. if it aint broke, dont fix it. if you dont like it, go and buy one of those 3rd party controllers. me and millions of people love the DualShock controller.
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mostly I don't care, it gets the jobs done

in fact I've never really had a problem with any controller

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could not agree with you more. no controller has ever really bothered me. probably the N64, and I could manage it.

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#18 MarloStanfield
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Worst controller this gen by far

The motion tracking is way too sensitive and it looks exactly the same as the dual shock on the Ps1, Sony have lost it

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#19 Sony-tha-champ0
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SX is crap i agree,but DS3 rocks.And TC seriously,do you prefer the wiimote with only 2 buttons ? (A and B only?)
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The Dualshock controller has been hailed by many publications and the best controller ever made.


The DS3 is exactly like that with a few changes. The DS3 is great.
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#21 campzor
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DualShock is the best controller ever made. if it aint broke, dont fix it. if you dont like it, go and buy one of those 3rd party controllers. me and millions of people love the DualShock controller.MightyMuna

Excactly....
I couldnt even imagine playing a sony game on something else.
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#22 V_Isle
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Wonder how things would be if they stuck with the boomerang controller. That thing looked ridiculous-yet-somewhat-cool at the same time, and it was shaped like that so it would fit your hands perfectly.

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#23 MarloStanfield
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The Dualshock controller has been hailed by many publications and the best controller ever made.


DireToad

maybe 10 years ago, it's 2008 now. A PS1 controller with bad analogue sticks isn't going to cut it

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#24 ANeuralPathway
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[QUOTE="DireToad"]The Dualshock controller has been hailed by many publications and the best controller ever made.


MarloStanfield

maybe 10 years ago, it's 2008 now. A PS1 controller with bad analogue sticks isn't going to cut it

And yet, many people on this thread alone say that it is. Amazing.

As far as I'm concerned, anything that doesn't have those **** Xbox buttons is a-ok

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[QUOTE="DireToad"]The Dualshock controller has been hailed by many publications and the best controller ever made.


MarloStanfield

maybe 10 years ago, it's 2008 now. A PS1 controller with bad analogue sticks isn't going to cut it

It can't be that bad, that you have to bash it so hard.

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#26 MarloStanfield
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It can't be that bad, that you have to bash it so hard.

Furi-Kun

it's ok but it is the worst for FPS and it is less comfortable than the 360 pad for me. It also doesn't have triggers and the design is the same as the PS1 days

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#27 All_that_is_Man
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the 360 controller is to big, and weighs to much and it not good for anything besides FPS, I think it needs to be redesigned
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#28 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

It can't be that bad, that you have to bash it so hard.

MarloStanfield

it's ok but it is the worst for FPS and it is less comfortable than the 360 pad for me. It also doesn't have triggers and the design is the same as the PS1 days

Xbox =FPS Ps3= Everyother game

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#29 Eyezonmii
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I would have much prefered the boomarang controller, it looked comforable and different, but thanks to the MANY complaints, sony had to change it. So they kept with what was safe, the dualshock and added some minor modifications.

I too don't fancy the controller, mainly the triggers, but seriously..buy the Giotek Real Triggers add ons...it feels SOOO much more better, trust me.

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#30 VoodooHak
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Even if it is a little old, the PS1/2/3 controller has become almost iconic. To the point of becoming part of the branding. It would be a very difficult decision to change that.
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#31 MarloStanfield
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nope

Xbox =FPS Ps3= Everyother game

All_that_is_Man

PS3 is better for games that use the D-pad, everything else is 360 because the analogue sticks are better

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#32 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

it's ok but it is the worst for FPS and it is less comfortable than the 360 pad for me. It also doesn't have triggers and the design is the same as the PS1 days

MarloStanfield

nope

Xbox =FPS Ps3= Everyother game

PS3 is better for games that use the D-pad, everything else is 360 because the analogue sticks are better

Ok the 360 is so horrible for anything else, rps, button mashers, you name it the 360 controller is horrible for

do you even own a ps3?

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The Dualshock design doesnt bother me at all. I just wish the controller was more durable. Seems like they wear out fast, which is weird because it didnt feel like the Dualshock 2 did that.
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#34 MarloStanfield
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Ok the 360 is so horrible for anything else, rps, button mashers, you name it the 360 controller is horrible for

do you even own a ps3?

All_that_is_Man

Why would I want a PS3? It's the most expensive console and it has the worst exclusives and worst third pary support

most games these days use analogues (although fighting games are bteer with the D-pad). So every good PS3 game is better on the 360 controller

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The Dualshock design doesnt bother me at all. I just wish the controller was more durable. Seems like they wear out fast, which is weird because it didnt feel like the Dualshock 2 did that.carljohnson3456



What do you mean durable? Did yours break?
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#36 JLF1
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Am I the only one that can play with the PS3, Wii, PC and 360 controllers and enjoy them all?

The thing with the PS3's DS3 and the 360 controller is if you play with either of them a long time it takes a couple of hours to get used to the other controller.

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#37 romans828_2002
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How many different ways can you have a controller? There is only so much variation that you can have without it being odd.

But anyway, here's my $.02. I don't like the triggers on the PS3 controller as much as I do on the 360. I agree as well that the 360's left analog placement is more ideal, but when I'm in the middle of a PS3 game, I don't really notice it. While overall, I think the 360 controller is great, it is much heavier and I like the "feel" of the PS3 controller just a tad bit better. I've actually started buying multiplats on the PS3 for the sole reason that I like the feel of the controls better.

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#38 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

Ok the 360 is so horrible for anything else, rps, button mashers, you name it the 360 controller is horrible for

do you even own a ps3?

MarloStanfield

Why would I want a PS3? It's the most expensive console and it has the worst exclusives and worst third pary support

most games these days use analogues (although fighting games are bteer with the D-pad). So every good PS3 game is better on the 360 controller

oh boy....why go their?

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I like it just the way it is, a Playstation without a Dualshock controller just wouldn't feel right.
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The Dualshock design doesnt bother me at all. I just wish the controller was more durable. Seems like they wear out fast, which is weird because it didnt feel like the Dualshock 2 did that.DireToad



What do you mean durable? Did yours break?

Nah, but the joy sticks wear out too fast and become really loose. It didnt happen to me until I started playing COD4. To sprint you had to push in the left analog stick, and of course you were using the left analog stick all the time... and after awhile it wore out and became really, really lose. I've had my DS2 controllers since like 2001 and they still feel like new, lol.

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#41 Guybrush_3
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I don't like it either. The handles are not comfortable, the curve on the back right before the triggers feels awkward, The analogue sticks are litterally tacked on, and the analogue sticks are to loose for my taste.
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#42 King_Dodongo
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I would prefered they kept the battarang as an option at least it looked way better than the sixaxis
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It is fine as it is, just need some minor changes to improve it that's all. I don't think they need to completely redesign a new controller, and the position of the analog could be beneficial for fighting games not to mention the better dpad it has over the Xbox 360. I am just hoping they fix their analog trigger.
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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The Dualshock design doesnt bother me at all. I just wish the controller was more durable. Seems like they wear out fast, which is weird because it didnt feel like the Dualshock 2 did that.carljohnson3456




What do you mean durable? Did yours break?

Nah, but the joy sticks wear out too fast and become really loose. It didnt happen to me until I started playing COD4. To sprint you had to push in the left analog stick, and of course you were using the left analog stick all the time... and after awhile it wore out and became really, really lose. I've had my DS2 controllers since like 2001 and they still feel like new, lol.

Maybe you are to strong and pushing too hard but you don't feel it cause you are too strong.

We need one made from steel

:lol:

Just kidding, no hard feelings

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#45 skrat_01
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The triggers suck and its not very erganomic.

That and the motion sensor is almost useless.

360 controller isnt without its issues.... AA batteries (that terrible pack on the underside), and one of the worst Dpads ever.

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#46 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The Dualshock design doesnt bother me at all. I just wish the controller was more durable. Seems like they wear out fast, which is weird because it didnt feel like the Dualshock 2 did that.mamkem6




What do you mean durable? Did yours break?

Nah, but the joy sticks wear out too fast and become really loose. It didnt happen to me until I started playing COD4. To sprint you had to push in the left analog stick, and of course you were using the left analog stick all the time... and after awhile it wore out and became really, really lose. I've had my DS2 controllers since like 2001 and they still feel like new, lol.

Maybe you are to strong and pushing too hard but you don't feel it cause you are too strong.

We need one made from steel

:lol:

Just kidding, no hard feelings

lol What can I say? I'm like the Hulk... only stronger. 8)

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#47 mbrockway
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I like the dual shock 3 better. The 360 pad's curves on the back lock my hand into a position that makes my hands numb after a while.
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#48 Espada12
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Suddenly sony's controller is bad. People never said this during the PS1 -- > PS2 era, why start now?
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#49 Eyezonmii
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SEEMS COMFORTABLE NOW DOESN'T IT!

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#50 Eyezonmii
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Suddenly sony's controller is bad. People never said this during the PS1 -- > PS2 era, why start now?Espada12

DS3 flaws, IMO:

1) looser Sticks

2) Triggers (but can be fixed with the giotek real trigger clips)