The PS3 is Losing the Console War, PERIOD.

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#1 _pulser_
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Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

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#2 Da_lil_PimP
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When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.
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And by losing you mean...winning?!
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in terms of number of consoles sold yes the ps3 is losing but it does have some awesome features, to bad its wieghed down by a hefty price tag and lack of good exclusives.
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Agree, i'm telling you Sony has made some pretty bad mistakes, of course they are trying to do anything to correct this mistakes, but i just hope that isn't too late for that, besides MGS4 was delayed. Bad News to Sony.
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When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.Da_lil_PimP

I think the week Ace Combat 6 came out it did... that, or some big game over there in the past two months. I don't remember exactly what game fueled the rise but it was big news when it happened

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Yes! I love every person's opening topic when stating a console is the worst, "I am not a fanboy and own these consoles:."

It's kind of hard to argue it isn't losing the console war.

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#8 pilotc
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And by losing you mean...winning?!DaysAirlines

And by winning you mean ....a total flop?

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When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.Da_lil_PimP

It was after the Halo 3 release, i think it was around first week in november that the 360 sells more than the PS3, i dont remember the date, but it was in GS news and forums. A little help here please with the Date.

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.SpaceMatt

I think the week Ace Combat 6 came out it did... that, or some big game over there in the past two months. I don't remember exactly what game fueled the rise but it was big news when it happened

I never heard of that. Oh well, must have been a good game to spike the sales up alot

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When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.Da_lil_PimP

So, when did the PS3 sell more than the Wii..never..

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.pilotc

So, when did the PS3 sell more than the Wii..never..

I never said anything about the Wii :| And the PS3 has beat it in sales once or twice

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Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

_pulser_

Stop reading when I saw overpricing. Extremely ignorant. How much have you spent on LIVE? Controller battery packs? Wifi? Believe me, PS3 is way cheaper than owning an Xbox. I own all 3

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The PS3 is being outsold by the 360 and the Wii... therefore it is LOSING THE CONSOLE WAR. It's facts and statictics, and the cows need to stop denying it.
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[QUOTE="_pulser_"]

Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

LessThanMarcus

Stop reading when I saw overpricing. Extremely ignorant. How much have you spent on LIVE? Controller battery packs? Wifi? Believe me, PS3 is way cheaper than owning an Xbox

Live = 3 years, total of about $160 with tax

Wifi = Who needs it? $0

Controller Battery Packs = Wired Controller > Wireless Controller

Soo... yeah basically you my friend have a mute point.

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[QUOTE="_pulser_"]

Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

LessThanMarcus

Stop reading when I saw overpricing. Extremely ignorant. How much have you spent on LIVE? Controller battery packs? Wifi? Believe me, PS3 is way cheaper than owning an Xbox. I own all 3

We have to have WiFi and all the battery packs? Well then if you own a PS3, you have to have Blu-Ray movies, since it is a standard feature and noted,and those are expensive. You also need a headset.

Let's not do this.

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.pilotc

So, when did the PS3 sell more than the Wii..never..

these past two weeks the ps3 has been selling more than the wii in japan.

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Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Umm last i read (2 weeks ago) the PS3 was outselling the Wii... That was 2,3 weeks ago not sure anymore. And when you say over pricing well it is going down in price 80g 500$ Ok well the Xbox 360 elite 120G is also 500$.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

_pulser_
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The PS3 is being outsold by the 360 and the Wii... therefore it is LOSING THE CONSOLE WAR. It's facts and statictics, and the cows need to stop denying it._pulser_

Uhm Hello? 360 came 2 years before the PS3...

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#21 Wave360
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What the i wrote something but its gone now all i have is the quote...

Anyways thought tjhe PS3 is currently the top selling one. Well it was 2 weeks ago and it will be the top selling one the second MGS4 and GTA IV come out

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#22 _pulser_
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Exactly. I've spend basically no money on 360 accessories besides buying an extra controller, total of $45 with tax.
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[QUOTE="_pulser_"]The PS3 is being outsold by the 360 and the Wii... therefore it is LOSING THE CONSOLE WAR. It's facts and statictics, and the cows need to stop denying it.Serchant

Uhm Hello? 360 came 2 years before the PS3...

Actually it is 1 year and always will be.:) Not much of an argument there.

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#24 _pulser_
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What the i wrote something but its gone now all i have is the quote...

Anyways thought tjhe PS3 is currently the top selling one. Well it was 2 weeks ago and it will be the top selling one the second MGS4 and GTA IV come out

Wave360
What are you smoking? The PS3 is getting outsold by the Wii and the 360.
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#25 Wave360
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[QUOTE="Wave360"]

What the i wrote something but its gone now all i have is the quote...

Anyways thought tjhe PS3 is currently the top selling one. Well it was 2 weeks ago and it will be the top selling one the second MGS4 and GTA IV come out

_pulser_

What are you smoking? The PS3 is getting outsold by the Wii and the 360.

Heres some links and as i said it might not be anymore but it was

1. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hell-freezing/ps3-outsells-wii-for-first-time-ever-324271.php

2. http://gigagamez.com/2007/03/27/ps3-outsells-wii-in-the-uk-while-breaking-sales-records/

3. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=30710

4. http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/ps3-turns-one-year-old-outsells-wii-in-japan-last-week/

5. http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/11/16/ps3_outsells_wii_in_japan.html

And for those who dont want to click the links heres the sale records

1. Nintendo DS: 78,884
2. PlayStation Portable: 58,964
3. PlayStation 3: 55,924
4. Nintendo Wii: 34,456
5. PlayStation 2: 9043
6. Xbox 360: 5817

Dont want to sound like a fan boy but the PS2 is outselling the Xbox 360 (i find it sort of funny)

The sales records are from http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=30710

Oh and now that i think of it thought its only in Japan and UK its outselling in america it just doubled in sales

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#26 youngtongue
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Just because the ps3 is losing doesn't mean it can't make a come back and win and if any you cows think the ps3 is winning then wow just wow u've been in a box for the past year.
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#27 Serchant
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[QUOTE="Serchant"]

[QUOTE="_pulser_"]The PS3 is being outsold by the 360 and the Wii... therefore it is LOSING THE CONSOLE WAR. It's facts and statictics, and the cows need to stop denying it.LTomlinson21

Uhm Hello? 360 came 2 years before the PS3...

Actually it is 1 year and always will be.:) Not much of an argument there.

Not for Europe :(

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.pilotc

So, when did the PS3 sell more than the Wii..never..

In Japan it's outsold Wii for 3 weeks straight.

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#29 tango90101
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agreed...

the next gen has started and most are swaying to the wii or the 360..

oh well... i heard the ps3 was doing good in spain or france...

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[QUOTE="Wave360"]

What the i wrote something but its gone now all i have is the quote...

Anyways thought tjhe PS3 is currently the top selling one. Well it was 2 weeks ago and it will be the top selling one the second MGS4 and GTA IV come out

_pulser_

What are you smoking? The PS3 is getting outsold by the Wii and the 360.

Actually Wii has already surpassed X360 and PS3 has outsold X360 by over a million units for 2007. So what that means is Wii is winning, X360 is grasping to hold second, and PS3 is catching up. I'm using worldwide numbers.

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Yes, the fact that PS3 is currently losing is a fact. Anyone denying this is a fanboy. Before you attack me - I'm not saying it's going to lose, I'm saying it's CURRENTLY losing. We all know this, look at the sales charts.
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[QUOTE="LessThanMarcus"][QUOTE="_pulser_"]

Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

_pulser_

Stop reading when I saw overpricing. Extremely ignorant. How much have you spent on LIVE? Controller battery packs? Wifi? Believe me, PS3 is way cheaper than owning an Xbox

Live = 3 years, total of about $160 with tax

Wifi = Who needs it? $0

Controller Battery Packs = Wired Controller > Wireless Controller

Soo... yeah basically you my friend have a mute point.

Let's not forget to add in the costs for a headset andHDMI cable for the PS3.

My PS3 cost me far more than my x360.

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[QUOTE="_pulser_"][QUOTE="Wave360"]

What the i wrote something but its gone now all i have is the quote...

Anyways thought tjhe PS3 is currently the top selling one. Well it was 2 weeks ago and it will be the top selling one the second MGS4 and GTA IV come out

EmperorSupreme

What are you smoking? The PS3 is getting outsold by the Wii and the 360.

Actually Wii has already surpassed X360 and PS3 has outsold X360 by over a million units for 2007. So what that means is Wii is winning, X360 is grasping to hold second, and PS3 is catching up. I'm using worldwide numbers.

I'd love to see a link that isn't VGC or SDF.

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in terms of number of consoles sold yes the ps3 is losing but it does have some awesome features, to bad its wieghed down by a hefty price tag and lack of good exclusives.codemaster44

And a lack of interest from consumers.

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Yes, the fact that PS3 is currently losing is a fact. Anyone denying this is a fanboy. darkslider99

Or a misguided PS3 owner that actually believes the Vgchartz figures are correct.

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Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

_pulser_

So one week out of the 52 weeks.........lol

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[QUOTE="_pulser_"][QUOTE="LessThanMarcus"][QUOTE="_pulser_"]

Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

LosDaddie

Stop reading when I saw overpricing. Extremely ignorant. How much have you spent on LIVE? Controller battery packs? Wifi? Believe me, PS3 is way cheaper than owning an Xbox

Live = 3 years, total of about $160 with tax

Wifi = Who needs it? $0

Controller Battery Packs = Wired Controller > Wireless Controller

Soo... yeah basically you my friend have a mute point.

Let's not forget to add in the costs for a headset andHDMI cable for the PS3.

My PS3 cost me far more than my x360.

Headset any standard USB or Bluetooth headset will work. Cost $5- $30

HDMI cable -quality cables can be found all over the web for $5- or less I bought mine from monoprice.com $4.00

X360 is far more expensive than PS3. PS3 can use all standard accessories.

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The x-box is being beat in Europe and Japan(together these have almost double Americas population the UK and Japan are also the only countries with higher %uptake of gaming consoles than America (i think Australia could be as well someone should look it up))

If you look at the Wii,Ps2,Ps3,DS american sales are resonasable for less than 50% of sales(the ds has sold more in Europe than in America as of now and the ps2 is only 2 million units beind the American sales in Europe as of now)

wheras for the x-box 360 American sales are more than 70% of sales

Worldwide there is around 1 thousand units either way on who is winning (looking at the Amercan NPD is not giving anyone a good idea of who is winning you have to look at chart-track.com(Europes NPD) and the famistus publication of Japanesse sales for a good outlook on which console is selling more.

Chart-track is saying that around 40K more ps3's were sold than 360's and prelimnary(they are only pleminary) japaneese charts are predicting 50K more ps3's sold. That begs the question how much is the 360 outselling ps3 by in America?

I think the ps3 is currently having a better year worldwide than the x-box 360 is (mostly because of Europes 700,000 units sold on the first day)

Either way it is the a FACT the Wii has more units sold than either of its competetors and is still selling more than its competetors with no drop in sales in sight(its christmass how can they possibly drop).

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[QUOTE="_pulser_"]

Let me first say that I am not a fanboy, and I have owned and enjoyed playing games for N64, PSX, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, and Wii.

Sony is losing this console war because of their system's lack of interesting features and over pricing. I mean when the 360 outsells the PS3 in JAPAN is when you know something is seriously wrong. And the PS3 is completely getting its arse kicked by the Wii all over the world.

Ericvon71

So one week out of the 52 weeks.........lol

Lemmings are funny even with links showing the PS3 SOFTWARE actuallyoutsold the wii for the last couple of weeks and still they say silly stuff........ like well it only happened once in like a year....lol....looks like even with lack luster tiltes it still managed to stay on the charts longer than Mario Galaxy...lol
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not over yet. so to say "period" is rather foolish. we don't know, and i don't care. let them fight it out by giving us the best they can give us.
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#41 Tatimus
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There is nothing wrong with the ps3 hardware-wise at all except the needless complexity of the cell architecture. It's more reliable than the 360, but the 360 has the games, and the games are what matters most here at Gamespot. There is simply no reason to own a ps3 right now unless you are into blu-ray movies or 6 hour action games (I am into these but am in no way into them $400-like). I guess I forget about Ratchet, but I've always despised that series for some reason.
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#42 3picuri3
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PS3 just doesn't live up to the hype at all - and i doubt it ever will. People were just expecting way more, and it ended up being nearly identical to the 360 in terms of performance and visuals.

Until a game comes out that makes me literally say the word 'wow' I won't be touching one again.

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[QUOTE="pilotc"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.Da_lil_PimP

So, when did the PS3 sell more than the Wii..never..

I never said anything about the Wii :| And the PS3 has beat it in sales once or twice

In a hole month in Japan i belive it is now;)
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[QUOTE="_pulser_"]The PS3 is being outsold by the 360 and the Wii... therefore it is LOSING THE CONSOLE WAR. It's facts and statictics, and the cows need to stop denying it.Serchant

Uhm Hello? 360 came 2 years before the PS3...

Uhhhh, wrong the 360 came out in Nov 2005, the PS3 came out Nov 2006... Uhh so that's 1 year and thats no excuse because the PS2 had exactly 1 year's head start and basically pummeled the Xbox in system and game sales but the Xbox still held it's own and managed to be a good system with a fair amount of great games.

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#45 Yodas_Boy
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[QUOTE="_pulser_"]The PS3 is being outsold by the 360 and the Wii... therefore it is LOSING THE CONSOLE WAR. It's facts and statictics, and the cows need to stop denying it.Serchant

Uhm Hello? 360 came 2 years before the PS3...

1 year.

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#46 Indestructible2
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Of course PS3 is losing the console wars,its a overpriced piece of junk with few if any good games.
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#47 Wasdie  Moderator
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When did the 360 sell more than the PS3 in Japan :| When the 360 first came out? That's my guess.Da_lil_PimP

It did once. When Ace Combat 6 came out. Now the PS3 is outselling it 10:1.

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#48 kentaro22
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That's a big YES. But that doesn't mean that in the end it will lose the war.
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#49 jzen_
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losing, perhaps... lost? no.