The PS3 is the last priority for game devs: With "proof"

by "proof" i mean i have a friend who has a coop job this term at a game developer in BC who has told me a bunch of stuff I didnt know about the gaming industry. I can't disclose the developer as if anything got back to the company he would be sued. I dont wanna be a dick

- most game devs HATE the PS3. Its unecessarily difficult to program for. Something that would take an hour programming for 360 will take days for PS3

- because of such a big install base,,, developers always strive to make the best possible game they can for the 360, and try and port it as best as they can for the PS3 afterwards. If there's any graphical inferiorities or glitches in ports, its because they have such a difficult time programming for the PS3 and has nothing to do with the PS3's inferiority.

- If they weren't forced by their publishers,, they wouldnt bother porting or developing for the PS3 at all

- the 360 is the unanimously preferred console by all multiplat developers.

Before anybody even attempts to call me a lemming,,, i dont even own a 360, and have been labelled a PS3 fanboy around here. Im no fanboy, i just bought what I consider the best console, If M$ didnt have such crap hardware and free online I wouldve probably gotten a 360

360 is easiest to develop on. 360 has Live. And 360 is more popular. Devs like that.BurningEdge

the only true thing about ur post, or i should say your trolling post is that ps3 was hard to work with during the launch and for that entire year but now all the dev tools have been done and are now easy to work with. So the conclusion of your thread is that it failed with one click of the button from this post you just read.

I can vouche for this guy being a hard core cow. I actually believe his story because such a long term cow has no motivation to go out there and make the PS3 sound bad.

Also most of this stuff has been known for quite some time. I would have to argue against the 1 hour of programing on the 360 = days of programing for the PS3. Thats just over exageration there. Also its not that the PS3 is bad to program for, its just new. The PS2 was the same way. Once devs get there feet wet on the new platform they start putting out some amazing titles as we have already seen.

the only true thing about ur post, or i should say your trolling post is that ps3 was hard to work with during the launch and for that entire year but now all the dev tools have been done and are now easy to work with. So the conclusion of your thread is that it failed with one click of the button from this post you just read.

ZoomZoom2490

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I can vouche for this guy being a hard core cow. I actually believe his story because such a long term cow has no motivation to go out there and make the PS3 sound bad.

Also most of this stuff has been known for quite some time. I would have to argue against the 1 hour of programing on the 360 = days of programing for the PS3. Thats just over exageration there. Also its not that the PS3 is bad to program for, its just new. The PS2 was the same way. Once devs get there feet wet on the new platform they start putting out some amazing titles as we have already seen.

xion1234

by "proof" i mean i have a friend who has a coop job this term at a game developer in BC who has told me a bunch of stuff I didnt know about the gaming industry. I can't disclose the developer as if anything got back to the company he would be sued. I dont wanna be a dickYou knew this stuff, you just thought all of us lemmings were lying and "bashing" the PS3.

- most game devs HATE the PS3. Its unecessarily difficult to program for. Something that would take an hour programming for 360 will take days for PS3Once again, most lemmings and most Sony fans knew this was true years ago...some people have just been living in denial.

- because of such a big install base,,, developers always strive to make the best possible game they can for the 360, and try and port it as best as they can for the PS3 afterwards. If there's any graphical inferiorities or glitches in ports, its because they have such a difficult time programming for the PS3 and has nothing to do with the PS3's inferiority.Wouldn't the difficulty in programming BE an inferiority? Once again, this isn't news.

- If they weren't forced by their publishers,, they wouldnt bother porting or developing for the PS3 at allNot surprising, these guys don't make more from more games, the big wigs do.

- the 360 is the unanimously preferred console by all multiplat developers.I'm sure there are at least a couple that prefer the PS3.

Before anybody even attempts to call me a lemming,,, i dont even own a 360, and have been labelled a PS3 fanboy around here. Im no fanboy, i just bought what I consider the best console, If M$ didnt have such crap hardware and free online I wouldve probably gotten a 360Oh, anybody who's been around here more than a week knows full well you aren't a lemming. The fact that you are such a hardcore cow and have written such a glowing 360/damning PS3 post actually gives it a little extra believeability IMO. I was fully expecting it to be a "joke" post where your post was the opposite of the thread title. I NEVER expected the content it acutally contained.

signore

by "proof" i mean i have a friend

signore

What kind of proof is that ? :|

I can vouche for this guy being a hard core cow. I actually believe his story because such a long term cow has no motivation to go out there and make the PS3 sound bad.

Also most of this stuff has been known for quite some time. I would have to argue against the 1 hour of programing on the 360 = days of programing for the PS3. Thats just over exageration there. Also its not that the PS3 is bad to program for, its just new. The PS2 was the same way. Once devs get there feet wet on the new platform they start putting out some amazing titles as we have already seen.

Right...

My friend is standing right next to me and he has a friend that has a father whom has a father that works for a videogame company (that i cannot disclose for obvious reasons) and he says your wrong.

ps3 "last priority" ..? then why have devs been using the ps3 as the lead platform for multiplatform development???? ...ugh..these topics..Furbyballistik

[QUOTE="Furbyballistik"]ps3 "last priority" ..? then why have devs been using the ps3 as the lead platform for multiplatform development???? ...ugh..these topics..Steppy_76

by "proof" i mean i have a friend who has a coop job this term at a game developer

signore

I'm sorry tc, but I stop reading after I have a friend. First off, you obviously don't have friends or you wouldn't spend times on a message board. Second, claiming that "my friend" or "My friends dad" always leads to fabricated crap.Lionheart08

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by "proof" i mean i have a friend who has a coop job this term at a game developer in BC who has told me a bunch of stuff I didnt know about the gaming industry. I can't disclose the developer as if anything got back to the company he would be sued. I dont wanna be a dickYou knew this stuff, you just thought all of us lemmings were lying and "bashing" the PS3.

- most game devs HATE the PS3. Its unecessarily difficult to program for. Something that would take an hour programming for 360 will take days for PS3Once again, most lemmings and most Sony fans knew this was true years ago...some people have just been living in denial.

- because of such a big install base,,, developers always strive to make the best possible game they can for the 360, and try and port it as best as they can for the PS3 afterwards. If there's any graphical inferiorities or glitches in ports, its because they have such a difficult time programming for the PS3 and has nothing to do with the PS3's inferiority.Wouldn't the difficulty in programming BE an inferiority? Once again, this isn't news.

- If they weren't forced by their publishers,, they wouldnt bother porting or developing for the PS3 at allNot surprising, these guys don't make more from more games, the big wigs do.

- the 360 is the unanimously preferred console by all multiplat developers.I'm sure there are at least a couple that prefer the PS3.

Before anybody even attempts to call me a lemming,,, i dont even own a 360, and have been labelled a PS3 fanboy around here. Im no fanboy, i just bought what I consider the best console, If M$ didnt have such crap hardware and free online I wouldve probably gotten a 360Oh, anybody who's been around here more than a week knows full well you aren't a lemming. The fact that you are such a hardcore cow and have written such a glowing 360/damning PS3 post actually gives it a little extra believeability IMO. I was fully expecting it to be a "joke" post where your post was the opposite of the thread title. I NEVER expected the content it acutally contained.

Steppy_76

Yeah, but that's just the opinion of your friend and the company he works for. Maybe another company has different views and finds the 360 less powerful and the PS3 easier to program for.AIH_PSP

by "proof" i mean i have a friend who has a coop job this term at a game developer in BC who has told me a bunch of stuff I didnt know about the gaming industry. I can't disclose the developer as if anything got back to the company he would be sued. I dont wanna be a dick

- most game devs HATE the PS3. Its unecessarily difficult to program for. Something that would take an hour programming for 360 will take days for PS3

- because of such a big install base,,, developers always strive to make the best possible game they can for the 360, and try and port it as best as they can for the PS3 afterwards. If there's any graphical inferiorities or glitches in ports, its because they have such a difficult time programming for the PS3 and has nothing to do with the PS3's inferiority.

- If they weren't forced by their publishers,, they wouldnt bother porting or developing for the PS3 at all

- the 360 is the unanimously preferred console by all multiplat developers.

Before anybody even attempts to call me a lemming,,, i dont even own a 360, and have been labelled a PS3 fanboy around here. Im no fanboy, i just bought what I consider the best console, If M$ didnt have such crap hardware and free online I wouldve probably gotten a 360

signore

It's no secret that developers don't like the PS3. It's got terrible tools and a more esoteric architecture. However developers aren't the ones that make decisions regarding which platforms should be targeted, publishers do. And publishers don't necessarily care whether or not the programmers have access to fancy shader debuggers.Teufelhuhn

Publishers care about making money more than anything...and PS3 owners don't buy games...while 360 owners buy them like there is not tomorrow.

Summary of this thread. I know a dude in the industry who is surrounded by a bunch of lazy programmers who would like to churn out games like an assembly line.khai411

Summary of cow responses: "We don't believe you because we used to love our PS2s very, very much, and now we want to love our PS3 just as much, so please don't give us facts, just post misinformation."