The PS3 must succeed as an example to the industry

As gamers, we must root for the PS3. Why you ask? because the ps3 represents a leap forward, balancing on new technology.

The PS3 brings these things to the table:

1) Blu-ray: High capacity disk storage that gives developers more room to make games. People complain it is expensive, but the price will never go down unless people buy into the technology...

2) Free Online: IfXBL continues to succeed, it will prove to the industry that gamers will pay extra for something that they should be getting for free. Why should gamers have to pay multiple times just to use a game online? If even the wii and ds can do free online, why cant MS?

3) The Cell: When used corectly the cell is a very powerfull tool, that can easily outperform the 360 in certain areas. Yet, time and time again (OB, just to name one), the ps3 gets the half-done, crappy port. If gamers dont rally behind the ps3, how do you expect developers to?

4) Stability: As the 360 faltered, with the RRoD, people still bought it like mad. Yes, they justified it by saying the games were amazing. That's fine. but we need to make a statement to the industry that an unrelaible machine is unacceptible, especially for a company like MS, with billions to spend on research.

The wii also takes a chance on new technology, and it seems like gamers have supported it whole hog. but it was cheap, so that made sense. But the ps3 will never go down in price, unless we buy into the technology, and make it worth the developer's while to design good games for it.

I don't know about you, but I would much rather have high quality original games rather than hardware. I mean, at the end of day who honestly gets any enjoyment from reading off a spec sheet?_shadow99

You do realize the better games argument can only be used for a couple more months right?

As gamers, we must root for the PS3. Why you ask? because the ps3 represents a leap forward, balancing on new technology.

The PS3 brings these things to the table:

1) Blu-ray: High capacity disk storage that gives developers more room to make games. People complain it is expensive, but the price will never go down unless people buy into the technology...

2) Free Online: If the 360 continues to succeed, it will prove to the industry that gamers will pay extra for something that they should be getting for free. Why should gamers have to pay multiple times just to use a game online? If even the wii and ds can do free online, why cant MS?

3) The Cell: When used corectly the cell is a very powerfull tool, that can easily outperform the 360 in certain areas. Yet, time and time again (OB, just to name one), the ps3 gets the half-done, crappy port. If gamers dont rally behind the ps3, how do you expect developers to?

4) Stability: As the 360 faltered, with the RRoD, people still bought it like mad. Yes, they justified it by saying the games were amazing. That's fine. but we need to make a statement to the industry that an unrelaible machine is unacceptible, especially for a company like MS, with billions to spend on research.

The wii also takes a chance on new technology, and it seems like gamers have supported it whole hog. but it was cheap, so that made sense. But the ps3 will never go down in price, unless we buy into the technology, and make it worth the developer's while to design good games for it.

fiscope

I don't want to root for Sony, they have put thier corporate goals ahead of making a quality gaming system

1-Blu-Ray, a choice made by the Sony Board of directors, which is the reason the PS3 is struggling, its still to expensive, and with games like Mass Effect and its HUGE amount of dialog and the size of the game, its obvious its not needed for gaming

2-While I a fan of anything free, I have to say, for less than $5 a month, you get an online system that is better than sony or Nintendo, and everyone agrees, Microsoft has the best online system, and its not very expensive

3- why would developers rally behind a system that requires them to put more money and time into development to get the same results they get with a 360 for less money and effort, the Cell is a terrible gaming platform processor, there is a reason Gabe Newell call the Ps3 a waste of peoples time, you have to devote more time and money, and what you produce is only good for the PS3, they time and effort put into the 360 is ready to go for the PC, it makes sense, finacially to make games for the PC and 360

4-PS2 was not reliable at all, it had the disk read errors, i went through three of them, I have gone through one 360, my original one, and the new one, I have had for over a year has been perfect, Microsoft has bit the bullet and extended the warranty in case your system fails, thats alot more than sony did with the Ps2, you had to wait for the slim version before the problem was truely fixed

The wii is popular because it appeals to non gamers, like my grandma, the Ps3 is a sony device filled with technology Sony wanted to piggyback in to help them impose a propietary format, and proprietary processor on the mass public, the problem is both technologies are way to expensive to be realities in gaming, Blu-Ray and the Cell are the reason Sony is failing, and not a reason to rally behind them, they need to learn to make a gaming system, and nothing else, gaming systems are seen as toys, no old man is going to use a PS3 in thier hi-def system.

You are using Blu-Ray and the Cell as examples of taking the industry forward when Blu-ray is an albatross hanging around the PS3s neck and the Cell was never made to make games work better it was designed to make Blu-ray movies work better.

This is why SW is so frustrating for the people that hang out here, after being exposed to what passes for logical thinking here I'm ready to argue that bleeding to death is a great solution to the countries problem with people that have high blood pressure.

Try not to use the biggest negatives of the system as points of logic for what it's strengths are.

Why do poor saps that just want great games have to subsidize Sonys costs for Blu-Ray and Cell development?

What does it say about the PS3 when Sony USA head H. Stringer has been quoted saying BD VS. HDDVD is at a "stalemate" and Sony has ended all future R&D on the Cell and outsourced all future Cell R&D to Toshiba who are the owners of the HDDVD patents?

This whole thing is a comedy of errors at this point.

I don't root for Cell or Blu-Ray I root for games.

To be honest. I could say PS3 must not succeed (well initially anyways) so that we don't see another $600 console loaded with crap, hype and hoopla that we don't need. I'm kinda actually happy that the PS3 got off to its rough start. Otherwise high priced multimedia hubs might be what consoles eventually turn in to.

But now I'm glad Sony hit a rough start because they are now shaping up. They have gotten their price down, their games are coming, they are getting their act together ect. They are on their way to doing good.

I would never buy a console for the reasons you listed. Buy a new video card if that's how you feel. I buy consoles for games. That is what appeals to me about the PS3 is the games. Not Cell, Blu-Ray, Free Online which isn't as good ect.

[QUOTE="_shadow99"]I don't know about you, but I would much rather have high quality original games rather than hardware. I mean, at the end of day who honestly gets any enjoyment from reading off a spec sheet?NielsNL

You do realize the better games argument can only be used for a couple more months right?

What happens in a couple monthes? What game is coming in January?

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="_shadow99"]I don't know about you, but I would much rather have high quality original games rather than hardware. I mean, at the end of day who honestly gets any enjoyment from reading off a spec sheet?Blackbond

You do realize the better games argument can only be used for a couple more months right?

What happens in a couple monthes? What game is coming in January?

I find that anyone who quotes themselves in their sig isn't really worth the effort.

I don't root for Cell or Blu-Ray I root for games.

To be honest. I could say PS3 must not succeed (well initially anyways) so that we don't see another $600 console loaded with crap, hype and hoopla that we don't need. I'm kinda actually happy that the PS3 got off to its rough start. Otherwise high priced multimedia hubs might be what consoles eventually turn in to.

But now I'm glad Sony hit a rough start because they are now shaping up. They have gotten their price down, their games are coming, they are getting their act together ect. They are on their way to doing good.

I would never buy a console for the reasons you listed. Buy a new video card if that's how you feel. I buy consoles for games. That is what appeals to me about the PS3 is the games. Not Cell, Blu-Ray, Free Online which isn't as good ect.

Blackbond

if it succeeds the next consoles will cost $1000 and you'll have to wait 2 years before an AAAE, but hey you can watch movies in the new PurpleRay format.Ontain

I hope that answers the TC's question :)

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