The PS3's failure is holding back next gen graphics, not the Wii's success

If Sony didn't opt to use the PS3 as a trojan horse to pedal their blu-ray player causing the PS3 to have such a steep price, it may have actually been a desirable product for consumers, sold extremely well, and next gen would have been much more focussed on Sony's ideals rather than Nintendo's.

You can't blame Nintendo for being successful, however, you can blame Sony for failing to reach consumers with the costly PS3. It's their selfishness and failure in trying to capitalize on the blu-ray format that will lead the development community elsewhere, namely the Wii.   

So how do you explain the 360?ramey70

So how do you explain the 360?ramey70

So how do you explain the 360?ramey70

shhhh thats too much for one man to think about...

I don't blame Sony for trying to give consumers the future. Far better then Nintendo re-selling them the past.

FFXIII and MGS4 are going to the Wii. I just know it.

 

I don't blame Sony for trying to give consumers the future. Far better then Nintendo re-selling them the past.

 

Bread_or_Decide

All three are. The wii is a slightly upgraded GameCube and neither the PS3 nor the 360 have enough RAM.

Wait wait wait...how does price hold back next gen graphics and gameplay?Tiefster

[QUOTE="ramey70"]So how do you explain the 360?chicagog19

And AI, physics, online, size of environments, and a multitude of other upgrades the Wii can't even begin to touch.  My power isn't just a graphics benefit.  Nintendo doesn't seem to realize that however. 

 

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]Wait wait wait...how does price hold back next gen graphics and gameplay?jedigemini

It's a good thing Enzo Ferrari didn't alter his designs to appeal to the poor. 

I believe you are wrong.

Why?

People buying the Wii probably wouldn't buy a PS3 even it was also $250 dollars.  The Wii is targeting a different audience, why can people not understand this.  Yes the price is a big mistake but being $400 instead of $600 wouldn't suddenly launch them above the Wii.  Look at it this way, PS3 still doesn't have a killer title to sale itself.  Neither does Wii yet it's still outpacing BOTH X360/PS3.....doesn't that suspicously look as if the Wii's success has less to do with PS3 failure and more with Nintendo perhaps opening a new market?

 

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]Wait wait wait...how does price hold back next gen graphics and gameplay?jedigemini

I believe you are wrong.

Why?

People buying the Wii probably wouldn't buy a PS3 even it was also $250 dollars.  The Wii is targeting a different audience, why can people not understand this.  Yes the price is a big mistake but being $400 instead of $600 wouldn't suddenly launch them above the Wii.  Look at it this way, PS3 still doesn't have a killer title to sale itself.  Neither does Wii yet it's still outpacing BOTH X360/PS3.....doesn't that suspicously look as if the Wii's success has less to do with PS3 failure and more with Nintendo perhaps opening a new market?

darthogre

As it stands, the Wii is actually a threat to become larger than the 360 + PS3 + PC gaming market which would wreak absolute havok on the hardcore gaming community.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

I believe you are wrong.

Why?

People buying the Wii probably wouldn't buy a PS3 even it was also $250 dollars.  The Wii is targeting a different audience, why can people not understand this.  Yes the price is a big mistake but being $400 instead of $600 wouldn't suddenly launch them above the Wii.  Look at it this way, PS3 still doesn't have a killer title to sale itself.  Neither does Wii yet it's still outpacing BOTH X360/PS3.....doesn't that suspicously look as if the Wii's success has less to do with PS3 failure and more with Nintendo perhaps opening a new market?

jedigemini

As it stands, the Wii is actually a threat to become larger than the 360 + PS3 + PC gaming market which would wreak absolute havok on the hardcore gaming community.

If and I reinterate IF, Ninentdo is tailoring itself to a new market, how does that hurt X360 or PS3?  Shouldn't it grow the overall game industry?  As it stands right now the hardcore gaming community I believe will still go with X360 or PS3 and developers know this.  Nothing will really change as long as those two consoles do not fail.

The only reason why both X360 and PS3 are out of the gates a little slow is price.  It's much more expensive than previous generations for the console and not to mention the games are about $10-20 more expensive.  Let's not forget about those nice accessories....I can remember the days of buying a second controller for $20-25, now it's twice as much.  Now X360 also has some hardware issues which could be the reason why the hardware sales have not shot up even with killer software.

SOE really had no chance to be successufl with the PS3 like it was with the PS2.  First off PS2 had NO competition and it was at least affordable although a little on the expensive side.  The PS3 today would still have been $400 or more even without the Blu-Ray.....and that's with X360 being out for a year with much better software.

It's competition that is killing the PS2/PS3 comparison.  PS2 had none when it was released.