The PS3's greatest weakness

This isn't a topic to discuss how the PS3 is better or worse than other consoles. Every console has its weaknesses.

That said, what do you think is the PS3's greatest weakness?

Price...

The ps3 may be more powerful but at the end of the day the 360 gives you HD graphics, at half the price, and with the knowledge that multiplats will always look the same on both consoles anyway, whch draws in the casuals who will use thier 360 for COD games and Fifa...

This isn't a topic to discuss how the PS3 is better or worse than other consoles. Every console has its weaknesses.

That said, what do you think is the PS3's greatest weakness?

mstc_Q

It's architecture. Developers have to put in many times more work to get the same results that they do on the 360. Ninja-Hippo

Lack of Backwards Compatibility. Aside from lack of video RAM, I don't consider any of the others to be weaknesses.Floppy_Jim

The lack of video ram is mostly untrue.

the 360 has 512mb of unified RAM that can be distributed the way the devs want it to.

and that is probably most of the time a balanced 256mb for CPU and 256mb for Video.

The PS3 has 256 for system and 256 for video, but its not unified and cant be distributed.

The only situations where the 360 really has an advantage is in games that don't use much system RAM, but require more video RAM.

Other than that they are pretty much Even, or the PS3 has a slight advantage because its CPU is a bit faster.

The lack of backwards compatability is what is hurting Sony the most. The tens of millions of people that want to move into the next generation are not, because they have too many ps2 games that they still enjoy.

Price is not a factor for the PS3 at all. If the general public payed enough attention, they'd realize that you can get a brand-new PS3 for $250 from Sony itself with special offers. I did that and now I have an 80gb PS3 sitting in my apartment.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Lack of Backwards Compatibility. Aside from lack of video RAM, I don't consider any of the others to be weaknesses.swazidoughman

The lack of video ram is mostly untrue.

the 360 has 512mb of unified RAM that can be distributed the way the devs want it to.

and that is probably most of the time a balanced 256mb for CPU and 256mb for Video.

The PS3 has 256 for system and 256 for video, but its not unified and cant be distributed.

The only situations where the 360 really has an advantage is in games that don't use much system RAM, but require more video RAM.

Other than that they are pretty much Even, or the PS3 has a slight advantage because its CPU is a bit faster.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Lack of Backwards Compatibility. Aside from lack of video RAM, I don't consider any of the others to be weaknesses.Martin_G_N

The lack of video ram is mostly untrue.

the 360 has 512mb of unified RAM that can be distributed the way the devs want it to.

and that is probably most of the time a balanced 256mb for CPU and 256mb for Video.

The PS3 has 256 for system and 256 for video, but its not unified and cant be distributed.

The only situations where the 360 really has an advantage is in games that don't use much system RAM, but require more video RAM.

Other than that they are pretty much Even, or the PS3 has a slight advantage because its CPU is a bit faster.

well, I did not know that....

But is the XDR as efficient as the video ram?

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^ It was (originally) designed around the Cell/CPU, witch wasn't gonna bring 720p HD graphics by itself, let alone the supposed 1080p.

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

The lack of video ram is mostly untrue.

the 360 has 512mb of unified RAM that can be distributed the way the devs want it to.

and that is probably most of the time a balanced 256mb for CPU and 256mb for Video.

The PS3 has 256 for system and 256 for video, but its not unified and cant be distributed.

The only situations where the 360 really has an advantage is in games that don't use much system RAM, but require more video RAM.

Other than that they are pretty much Even, or the PS3 has a slight advantage because its CPU is a bit faster.

swazidoughman

well, I did not know that....

But is the XDR as efficient as the video ram?

lack of game libary is #1 and backward capability even if the ps3 costed more if it had the right games no1 would carekemar7856

Sledgehammers...Indie_Hitman

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]Sledgehammers...mstc_Q

Price. People who say game library are morons. Gl0ry_L0rd

[QUOTE="Gl0ry_L0rd"]Price. People who say game library are morons. surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] Actually...the GPU in the PS3 can use the XDR ram aswell..so they are pretty similar here. The only difference is the 10MB of D-ram on X360's GPU.swazidoughman

well, I did not know that....

But is the XDR as efficient as the video ram?

quoted someone one, it broke.

Other way around though, the 360 has the edge if developers use more system ram, not for vid, and the fact that ps3 uses a bit more resources so it doesn't have as much ram for games.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Gl0ry_L0rd"]Price. People who say game library are morons. kratos-7

Its greatest weakness is bad marketing.Mr_Ditters

I actually agree with this.

I wasn't really impressed by any of Sony's commercials. They were heavily stylized, but didn't clearly show what the system is capable of. Instead of making me feel like I was missing out for not having one, it left me scratching my head.

I'm still looking at getting one this year, but if it wasn't for websites like GameSpot, I probably wouldn't care.

At the same time, if I was uninformed, I would look towards the Xbox because of purchase price. While it may have hidden costs, it's the sticker price that gets people looking.

Paying for online isn't something I'm interested in, and I can get most of the same titles on a PS3, plus get games like LBP and a Blu-Ray player. But people buying a game for their kids aren't gonna know this.

So, you combine a higher starting price with unpersuasive advertising... and it's not hard to see why it's falling behind.

[QUOTE="kratos-7"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]price and games go hand and hand if the ps3 had games people wanted people would buy it, the more games people want on a system the more they would pay so by saying price you are also saying games MORON .......is what you call'd your self surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="kratos-7"] But PS3 clearly had a very good game library. So that only leaves the prices, so he is correct. What you're saying is generally correct, consoles need both but PS3 all ready has one. However the Wii shows it's not true in all circumstance, having the weakest library but selling the most of the consoles. tok1879

Price, but it's not so much the price as it is the perception of the price.

I know many casuals who still think that it is leaps and bounds ahead of the 360's price. Most of them still think it costs $600.

From a market standpoint the PS3s greatest weakness is price. You can argue that its a better deal, but that still doesn't matter to the people who don't care about watching movies and having Wi-Fi and whatnot.

Until the PS3s price drops a good $100 or $150, its no real competition for the 360. Sony really dropped the ball with this one.

Let's think about this for a minute.

Lack of RAM: does the PS3 have enough? if not, can it be upradeable later in time?

Price: price can always drop.

Game library: game library can always grow.

PS3 design: the PS3 can always be redesigned.

Backward Compatibility: this feature was taken out, so I don't think it would make sense if they bring it back in future skus.

So in conclusion, the weakness should be something it can't change, and so far BC and lack of RAM are the ones that probably won't change for awhile. So I believe those are it's weakness now and in the long run, but for right now it seems like it's the price that's hurting the PS3 but I can't say that's the weakness.

The PS3's greatest weakness is the price cause it costs to much.