The PS3's path to domination

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#1 teemany
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The PS3 should not have a price cut in the next few months. Yes, you read it right. Most of my posts favor the PS3. I definitely want it to succeed and I am certain it will succeed. I just dont' think cutting the price in the next few months matter that much in this extended generation. Sony needs to maintain a steady business perspective. Why is it better not having a price cut?

1) The PS3 is still the better value than Xbox 360, especially in this economy. People go out less and stay home more. Home entertainment becomes way more important in an average home. To people in the know the PS3 is clearly the best home entertainment device on the market because it alone can play the most impressive games AND movies. Instead of losing more money in the next few months, Sony should keep investing in more amazing exclusives, ones that showcase the PS3's Blu-ray disks, Cell, and/or motion control.

It should also use its money to market the PS3 as the console with the best graphics (MGS4, Killzone 2), the most innovative/creative game (LittleBigPlanet), the highest rated HD quality exclusive (LittleBigPlanet), the highest rated national sports title in this generation (MLB 09: The show), the best movie-like gaming experience (MGS4), the most relaxing/artistic game ever created (Flower), etc. The PS3 has too many good things going for it, yet the mainstream audience still doesn't give the respect that is due to the PS3. When I see advertisements, they tend to show case only one game. It's time for Sony to market the PS3 by showing the PS3's bests ALL AT ONCE. It's time, Sony.

It should also market the hell out of PSN. Let it be known that not only is PSN free, it also allows gamers to experience the best multiplayer graphics(Killzone2, MGS4). best multiplayer sounds (uncompressed audio in Metal Gear Online and Killzone 2(?), the largest multiplayer battles (Resistance 2, Killzone 2), the most creative user-genrated contents (LittleBigPlanet), the best place to socialize (HOME), the most relaxing/soothing game ever created (Flower), and movies from ALL major holllywood studios. It's time to advertize the hell out of PSN showcasing its bests all at once. It's time, Sony.

2) It is true that Sony is selling fewer consoles than Xbox 360. But Xbox 360's sales advantage seems to be decreasing every month, despite the lack of any PS3 price cuts. On a worldwide basis, the PS3 is only being outsold by Xbox 360 by around 100,000 units per month. This is not many at at all.

3) Sony doesn't need to worry as much about Xbox 360 gamers not buying the PS3 later on. Once the PS3 price is low enough or the number of PS3 exclusives reach a certain threshold, many if not most 360 owners will want to own the PS3 because the PS3 is a more advanced console with the most amazing exclusives(sights, sounds, user contents, motion control, socialization, etc.) and Blu-ray capabiltiy. It is Microsoft that needs to grab as many fans as early as possible, because once they have the PS3, they are a lot less likely to buy the 360. It is human nature, once you experince something really advanced, you don't go to something less advanced. Once you experience Blu-ray, you dont' want to go back to DVD. Once you experience the PS3, you don't feel the need own the 360.

4) Once the mainstream give the respect due to the PS3 (from all the marketing), have a pricecut (or a price cut/bundling combo) a month or so before the holiday season 2009. Xbox 360 will have no chance.

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I just saw the same wall of opinions yesterday and made by the same dude? deja vu?

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#3 teemany
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I just saw the same wall of opinions yesterday and made by the same dude? deja vu?

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Did I just see fear of PS3 domination?
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I'm sure the average consumer is totally stoked to play the games with the best multiplayer sounds. My grandma won't shut up about Metal Gear Solid 4's uncompressed audio.
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#5 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Domination of what?
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#6 OPuniverse
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The wall of text is huge with this one

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#7 navstar29
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All of what you said (which i didn't bother reading) is negated by the fact that a hundred dollar price drop will get millions more ps3's sold.
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#10 lundy86_4
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This could have been made into an interesting post. As it stands it's just fanboy drivel. Try being objective in your reasonings.

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#11 DJ_Lae
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All of what you said (which i didn't bother reading) is negated by the fact that a hundred dollar price drop will get millions more ps3's sold. navstar29
I can only assume he has Sony stock, so while a price drop would spur sales of the console it would also reduce profits, putting a potential damper on the quarterly profit reports and, subsequently, stock price. Either that or he just wants to punch consumers in the face but has no physical outlet to do so.
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#12 teemany
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I'm sure the average consumer is totally stoked to play the games with the best multiplayer sounds. My grandma won't shut up about Metal Gear Solid 4's uncompressed audio.DJ_Lae
You grandma will be impressed with Flower, though.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]I'm sure the average consumer is totally stoked to play the games with the best multiplayer sounds. My grandma won't shut up about Metal Gear Solid 4's uncompressed audio.teemany
You grandma will be impressed with Flower, though.

LOL

I liked this one.

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#15 teemany
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Domination of what?IronBass
Domination of HD gaming experience and console sales. Remember, most analysts still think the PS3 will have a larger install base than the 360.
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#16 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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these people don't know, and they should world69star69
Or maybe they just don't agree? :|
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Domination of what?teemany
Domination of HD gaming experience and console sales. Remember, most analysts still think the PS3 will have a larger install base than the 360.

Oh. Interesting. Not very likely.
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#18 DJ_Lae
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Oh. Interesting. Not very likely.IronBass
Do you doubt Michael Pachter?
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#19 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="world69star69"] these people don't know, and they should IronBass
Or maybe they just don't agree? :|

I could have agreed if the statement was based more on fact... unfortunately, it's not

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[QUOTE="teemany"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Domination of what?IronBass
Domination of HD gaming experience and console sales. Remember, most analysts still think the PS3 will have a larger install base than the 360.

Oh. Interesting. Not very likely.

Not likely or you just don't agree?:|

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wii sold double of what ps3 and 360 did and is almost on its way to going to wii 2 so chances of sony dominating consoiles much less handhelds are all but a dream , the best sony can get is good 2nd place jut 8 more million behind 360 tbut wii is still selling

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"] Not likely or you just don't agree?:|

Based on the market trends for the last 2 years, looking the market situation of today, looking the actual economic situation, etc, I, personally, reached the conclusion it is not very likely that the PS3 will "dominate the HD gaming experience and console sales". Of course, it is a personal conclusion, it is not a fact, and only time will tell if I'm right or not. Any other question?
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wii sold double of what ps3 and 360 did and is almost on its way to going to wii 2 so chances of sony dominating consoiles much less handhelds are all but a dream , the best sony can get is good 2nd place jut 8 more million behind 360 tbut wii is still selling

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In terms of sales the Wii owns. I think in terms of more quality titles the PS3/360 take the cake. Hopefully we'll see some solid 3rd party games this year for Wii

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Too late. Demand for the PS3 is quickly dropping and it is the only current gen console that is seeing a year over year decrease in sales, while the 360 and Wii are seeing a sharp increase. It could not even come close to outselling the 360 in

February even with the release of Killzone 2 (which was outsold by Halo Wars (a ****ing console RTS game outsold a FPS!!!!))! A price drop could potentially bring PS3 sales just under or almost equal to 360 sales, but as in the past, the effect never lasts long and the 360 quickly creates a huge gap for the holiday season, in which it always completely destroys the PS3 in sales, hardware as well as software.

And PSN is already doomed to fail as well, as that recent survey showed 50% of gamers are on Xbox LIVE, and only 20% are on PSN. Even the Wii had a bigger percentage! Pathetic. Other things make things look grim as well, like when Infinity Ward announced that 11 million unique players had played COD4 on Xbox LIVE, while only 4 million had on PSN.

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"] Not likely or you just don't agree?:|IronBass
Based on the market trends for the last 2 years, looking the market situation of today, looking the actual economic situation, etc, I, personally, reached the conclusion it is not very likely that the PS3 will "dominate the HD gaming experience and console sales". Of course, it is a personal conclusion, it is not a fact, and only time will tell if I'm right or not. Any other question?

That just means you came up with the 'not likely' due to your own interpretation, a while ago you just slapped down 'not likely' as if you know it is true.

And I think the HD gaming experience portion of the phrase is already delivered, but then...it is a personal conclusion, sigh* just have to keep up wit the consistencies.

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#26 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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That just means you came up with the 'not likely' due to your own interpretation PSdual_wielder

O RLY?

I thought that was that obvious that I didn't need to add "imo"s here and there :|

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"] That just means you came up with the 'not likely' due to your own interpretation IronBass

O RLY?

I thought that was that obvious that I didn't need to add "imo"s here and there :|

I know I'm annoying you, no need for the large fonts. YAHOO!!!!!!!! ok, im done here, goodbye.

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Too late. Demand for the PS3 is quickly dropping and it is the only current gen console that is seeing a year over year decrease in sales, while the 360 and Wii are seeing a sharp increase. It could not even come close to outselling the 360 in

February even with the release of Killzone 2 (which was outsold by Halo Wars (a ****ing console RTS game outsold a FPS!!!!))! A price drop could potentially bring PS3 sales just under or almost equal to 360 sales, but as in the past, the effect never lasts long and the 360 quickly creates a huge gap for the holiday season, in which it always completely destroys the PS3 in sales, hardware as well as software.

And PSN is already doomed to fail as well, as that recent survey showed 50% of gamers are on Xbox LIVE, and only 20% are on PSN. Even the Wii had a bigger percentage! Pathetic. Other things make things look grim as well, like when Infinity Ward announced that 11 million unique players had played COD4 on Xbox LIVE, while only 4 million had on PSN.

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Are you kidding me? Before Microsoft had the price cuts AND games bundling, PS3 was outselling it by around 200,000 units a month world wide. If you think a a major PS3 price cut will not allow the PS3 to outsell Xbox 360 by a large margin, then...I think you need help. LIVE is used more than PS3 because Xbox 360 came to market first and had better marketing of LIVE--its logo is placed on most 360 games and advertisements. That's why I feel Sony need to market the hell out of PSN. Once gamers know that LIVE charges then $50 a year in this economy but doesn't allow them to play games with the best sights, sounds, creativity,large battles, etc. they will feel that LIVE has been a rip off all along. They may pay for LIVE because they need to just to play multiplayer games, but they will harbor lingering resentment towards Microsoft for forcing them to pay just to play.
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#29 rybe1025
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As least have the PS3 be in 2nd place before even bringing up domination. It is just fanboy dribble talking domination about a console in last place.
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PS3 was outselling it by around 200,000 units a month world wide. teemany
It was around 120,000, actually. Which, even if it started happening again, for the next three years, wouldn't outsell the 360. Kinda hard to expect a "domination".
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As least have the PS3 be in 2nd place before even bringing up domination. It is just fanboy dribble talking domination about a console in last place.rybe1025

Not surprised @ all. There's still some of them that think it will eventually outsell the Wii. I would kill for that type of loyalty.

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#32 teemany
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As least have the PS3 be in 2nd place before even bringing up domination. It is just fanboy dribble talking domination about a console in last place.rybe1025
Console wars discussed here is usually between PS3 and 360 anyways. By domination, I meant HD gaming/movie domination. Do you think most analysts are wrong because most of them still think the PS3 will beat the 360's world wide install base? In fact, by the time it's all said and done, I still think the PS3 has a chance to have a larger install base than the Wii because Nintendo will most likely produce a Wii2 way before Sony discontinue the PS3. Nintendo, unlike, Sony can't maintain two home consoles in an extended time---Nintendo's audience has always been mostly casuals. For Wii2 to succeed, the Wii needs to die.