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#1 OrwellJames
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Maybe it's just for bickering amongst gaming enthusiasts and crazy predictions, but if we assume there's something of some substance being discussed here, I think a big problem is that there's really no boundaries to the scope of discussion. So we have to ask ourselves, how much can we really compare these consoles?

We see a lot that a thread will begin with a topic about the Playstation 3 or XBox360 being the best, followed up by PC gamers explaining how graphics hardware works to us as if we're 3rd graders, or Wii gamers who talk about the wealth of exclusives they get, despite not getting almost any multiplats, which elicits responses to the effect of "the PC/Wii doesn't count."

Clearly the Wii appeals to casual gamers or gamers who are somehow focused on interactivity; it's hardly known for its stunning visuals or intricate storylines. So it becomes exceedingly difficult to compare the Wii to the other consoles, because they appeal to a very different type of gamer. Most people who love their XBox360 or Playstation 3 and own a Wii have little love for Wii, AND vice versa (relax Wii fans).

The PC, on the other hand, has no single build and no developer backing it up exclusively (no first party, that is, aside from Microsoft perhaps). It encompasses a very wide variety of games but often gets left out of the scope of comparison because of excruciatingly high price point of a good PC (which turns its primary profit on hardware sales, unlike the consoles).

Which basically leaves arguing about whether the PS3 or the XBox360 is better, and the vast majority of the threads here, though derails by Wii and PC fans, begin with that intention in mind. Which begs the question: why do we argue the most about the consoles with the least amount of difference? Is it because we fear the ultimate "loser" of these two trailing consoles will no longer get 3rd party content? Or is it because it's easier to debate amongst gamers who share similar interests which are embodied in both consoles? Perhaps it's because PS3 and XBox360 fans exhibit a terrifying erotic passion for their consoles.

I certainly can't provide an answer myself, but I think it's worth keeping this question in mind when we go comparing apples to oranges. Why are we here, debating about which platform is best? If we're debating about which direction we think gameplay should head in, it makes the most sense to argue across different types of consoles. But since people focus on the XBox360 and PS3, I think the majority of the arguing done isn't "this TYPE of game is better than this other type of game," but simply "THIS game itself is better than that game."

Will we ever get anything accomplished here or do we just use it to relieve our frustrations when we see something we like go exclusive?

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#2 Dragonblade01
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You can't put boundaries on discussion. Limiting discussion isn't good for open conversation. There are good conversations between people with varying opinion on the gaming industry. However, you have to realize that you have to wade through the load of drivel and half-baked arguments. It's an inevitable part of discussion, and life in general.

It is a nice goal, though.

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#3 desmondsultanas
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It's a safe pasture for Cows come to come and pretend the PS3 is not in last place.
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#4 OrwellJames
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Yeah, see that's the other issue. You'll be arguing about games, and when someone's either been proven wrong on a point, or simply tired of that line of conversation, they start talking about sales. I guess it really is just a problem with a large open forum; it's going to be 90% idiotic or mundane.

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#5 Dragonblade01
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It's a safe pasture for Cows come to come and pretend the PS3 is not in last place.desmondsultanas

Here? Are you kidding?

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#6 JangoWuzHere
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Cause its fun.

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#7 XaosII
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Its because 360/PS3 fans already lost and are just trying to fight over the 2nd to last place.

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#8 cloudff7tm
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Perhaps it's because PS3 and XBox360 fans exhibit a terrifying erotic passion for their consoles.

OrwellJames

You hit the nail right on the head right there. It's scary how much these people love these consoles. A certain group a bit more than the other.

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#9 BaraChat
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Its because 360/PS3 fans already lost and are just trying to fight over the 2nd to last place.

XaosII

It's a safe pasture for Cows come to come and pretend the PS3 is not in last place.desmondsultanas
That's the kind of answers which cause problems here... TC put it well :
I guess it really is just a problem with a large open forum; it's going to be 90% idiotic or mundane.

OrwellJames

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#10 Supa__Mario
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...we are here cuz we got nothing better to do or we are too lazy to do it...
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#11 Ankofan1993
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Cause its fun.

JangoWuzHere

This.

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#12 pizzahutgood
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The point of message boards is to get information about whatever the topic is. In this case games. You can get info, but usually it just is about one person trying to get someone else to agree with their opinions. When they don't, things just get stupid. Any of you guys ever go post on sports message boards? It can get unbearable. I stay as far away from this stuff as possible, but even I find myself reading it (like tonight) when I am bored. Whats funny is at least with sports boards, it is a competition and a rivalry. Here, there is nothingstoppingsomeone from getting a ps3 AND a 360. I could afford both, I just don't care enough about gaming. Most people here could afford both as well, considering it seems like most people here play like 15 games a year. Thats a lot of money.

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#13 SpinoRaptor24
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I think you're taking this forum too seriously.

We come here to discuss topics, argue with fanboys and most importantly: have fun.

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#14 OrwellJames
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Well I keep posting because on occassion, someone will engage me in an intelligent discussion. The other day, amidst "WII SALES" and "WAGGLE CONTROLS SUCK" posts I had an interesting, civil conversation with someone about the different types of interactivity embodied in the PS3/360 and the Wii and how they facilitate immersion and advance gaming as a legitimate art. But this is rare. Still, I think people can change the way they bicker, even if they want to make superficial arguments. You simply have to advance what it is that you look for in a game before you claim it's superior. Very few people do this; they compare Gamespot ratings, sales, or exclusives, and I can imagine the amount of data aggregation that has occurred in this forum alone would probably be worth millions to a marketing firm considering how often people do it. But ultimately, it's not that useful to gamers.

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#15 Epak_
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To read the latest gaming news obviously. This place gathers all the big announcements together.

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#16 Slyprince
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To read the latest gaming news obviously. This place gathers all the big announcements together.

Epak_

Yeah, when I came home from school today I came to System Wars (Not Gamespot, IGN, or 1up) to get news about E3.

It works great as an aggregator and the discussions are entertaining. I don't take anything here to heart.

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#17 duxup
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I appreciate the thought put into this but we try to limit the amount of meta discussion here or it just takes on a life of its own.