The real biggest flops of all time

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#1 hellfire9988
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Well, the biggest mathematical flop ever was Lair. But someone is going to argue that Lair wasn't that big of a deal.

Here are my reasons:

Lair: biggest methematical flop of all time.

Killzone: The media hype of it killing Halo 2.

MP:3 : Rated AAA, or AAAA almost everywhere else. Some dumb sheep hyped it Halo killer.

Daikatana: Never played, but on the list due to popular demand

Zelda TP: Took zelda from an AAA/AAAA franchise to an AA franchise...

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#2 BioShockOwnz
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That would be Killzone. It was hyped as a Halo killer and failed.

Twilight Princess was also a huge flop, yet it still scored well.

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#3 PBSnipes
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No Doom 3 or Daikatana?!?!?!?!?!?!? This thread is a joke.
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#4 Clock_Ticking
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Lair hands cow
but now cows are trying to cover up all teh hype :lol:
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#5 Master_Live
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No Doom 3 or Daikatana?!?!?!?!?!?!? This thread is a joke.PBSnipes
Agreed, plus Gran Turismo 4, MGS 3 and FABLE.
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#6 Sir-Marwin105
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Daikatana.
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#7 hellfire9988
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]No Doom 3 or Daikatana?!?!?!?!?!?!? This thread is a joke.Master_Live
Agreed, plus Gran Turismo 4, MGS 3 and FABLE 2.

Fable 2 isn't out yet, GT4 HD???? and MGS 3 is an honorable mention

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#8 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]No Doom 3 or Daikatana?!?!?!?!?!?!? This thread is a joke.Master_Live
Agreed, plus Gran Turismo 4, MGS 3 and FABLE 2.

WHAT? I think you meant Fable 1.
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#9 PS3-IS-AWESOME
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WTF??? lair is amazing! you're all just Xbots.
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#10 HolyHandGrenad3
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Gamespot was pretty far off of the critic's average for super mario sunshine.
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#11 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]No Doom 3 or Daikatana?!?!?!?!?!?!? This thread is a joke.PBSnipes
Agreed, plus Gran Turismo 4, MGS 3 and FABLE 2.

WHAT? I think you meant Fable 1.

Yeah, my mistake.
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#12 hellfire9988
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WTF??? lair is amazing! you're all just Xbots.PS3-IS-AWESOME

Said "PS3-IS-AWESOME"

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#13 Harden_hawk
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Finally, one of these with Killzone :P.
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[QUOTE="PS3-IS-AWESOME"]WTF??? lair is amazing! you're all just Xbots.hellfire9988

Said "PS3-IS-AWESOME"

its one of those people that make fake names to troll and make a certain group look bad.....i dont know what you people call them here....

please dont take him seriously...

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#15 hellfire9988
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[QUOTE="hellfire9988"]

[QUOTE="PS3-IS-AWESOME"]WTF??? lair is amazing! you're all just Xbots._MURS_

Said "PS3-IS-AWESOME"

its one of those people that make fake names to troll and make a certain group look bad.....i dont know what you people call them here....

please dont take him seriously...

The term is called "Fakeboy"

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#16 Zerostatic0
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As much as you guys want to say only Gamespot scores matter the reality is that in juding flops you have to take into account that Gamespot might have over-rated or under-rated some games. For example the two Wii titles mentioned here (Zelda: TP and Metroid Prime 3) got mostly AAA scores every where else, and though they missed the cut here on Gamespot (just barely on both occasions), they were close enough that I don't see how they can be called major flops or even minor flops. They're both considered "Great" games by Gamespot, and I find it hard to call a game that Gamespot considers "Great" a flop.
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#17 Nike_Air
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Zelda TP hands down for me. The level of hype combined with the strength of that support was off the charts. Sheep were fully commited to AAA and very certain of that outcome.

I base it more on strength of hype rather than point differences.

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#18 GundamGuy0
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Im fairly sure if you do the math, Zelda is still a AAA franchise.
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#19 Clock_Ticking
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WTF??? lair is amazing! you're all just Xbots.PS3-IS-AWESOME

wow, i didnt know cows can get this desperate

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#20 GundamGuy0
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Zelda TP hands down for me. The level of hype combined with the strength of that support was off the charts. Sheep were fully commited to AAA and very certain of that outcome.

I base it more on strength of hype rather than point differences.

Nike_Air

Less you forget Killzone... It was the Halo Killer. It was hyped like their was no tomorrow... They were fully commited to it being AAA and were very certain of that outcome...

and it totaly and fully flopped...

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#21 mclazyj
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I don't understand why you have Daikatana on the list. It was always thought of as a joke and most fans were not hyping it towards the end of its quagmire of a development cycle. Doom 3 would be a better entry on your list, because it was hyped big time and with the exception of the PC Gamer exclusive review (which they apologized for later), Doom 3 flopped. It was the worst showing for an id Software game.
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#23 Ibacai
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Daikatana will always get my vote.
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#25 gonzalezj1
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I don't understand all this "Zelda: TP was a huge flop" business. It barely missed AAA. In fact, under the new scoring system, I'm pretty sure it would've gotten that 9.0. Anyway, it's hard to logically ignore that only 10 of the 79 reviews listed on GS's critics scores are less than AAA (nine are AA and one is A). Plus, if you actually play the game, you'll realize how great it is. It may not have been as revolutionary as OoT, but it's still a great Zelda game.
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#26 darkmario123
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PS3 is the biggest flop
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#27 Clock_Ticking
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PS3 is the biggest flopdarkmario123

cows just dont want to admit that

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#28 maverick_41
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How was LoZ TP a big flop. That game was great. Was it too hard for you.
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#29 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Zelda TP hands down for me. The level of hype combined with the strength of that support was off the charts. Sheep were fully commited to AAA and very certain of that outcome.

I base it more on strength of hype rather than point differences.

GundamGuy0

Less you forget Killzone... It was the Halo Killer. It was hyped like their was no tomorrow... They were fully commited to it being AAA and were very certain of that outcome...

and it totaly and fully flopped...

"_____ killer" is a generic term that gets thrown around and in this case thrown around by the media at first.It is a figure of speech.You can't kill a game that scores that highly and nobody really expected it to. That term was started by the media and people heard it a lot and just repeated it (the xbox fans used it a lot too for their own gain). People hyped Killzone like crazy sure , but there were a lot of skeptical playstation fans out there. Now a Zelda TP level game ...... no doubt they were 100% behind it and there were more people behind it. Even the other fanboys were afraid of it.

Biggest flop of all time - The great Zelda TP. The automatic AAA launch title , the greatest launch title of all time , the GOTY frontrunner.

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#30 hellfire9988
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How was LoZ TP a big flop. That game was great. Was it too hard for you.maverick_41

I have angered a sheep.. Dude.. it was hyped AAA/AAAA. Wind Waker... OOT? Original Zelda, A link to the Past???

One of the greatest franchises of all time flopped big time.. and no it was actually pretty easy

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#31 MGS9150
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You forgot Red Steel, it missed its hype by 3.5 same as Lair.
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#32 MgamerBD
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Its Lair the thing was hyped AAA and got 4.5 worse game this gen ever.
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#33 hellfire9988
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You forgot Red Steel, it missed its hype by 3.5 same as Lair.MGS9150

... Red Steel wasn't hyped AAA ... Was it? Most sheep hyped it A.

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#34 MGS9150
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[QUOTE="MGS9150"]You forgot Red Steel, it missed its hype by 3.5 same as Lair.hellfire9988

... Red Steel wasn't hyped AAA ... Was it? Most sheep hyped it A.

It was hyped AAA, called a revolutionary step for FPS some even called it a Halo killer. But yes the official hype for red steel was AAA.

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[QUOTE="MGS9150"]You forgot Red Steel, it missed its hype by 3.5 same as Lair.hellfire9988

... Red Steel wasn't hyped AAA ... Was it? Most sheep hyped it A.

No, most were hyping it at least AA and some were hyping it AAA.

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Its Lair the thing was hyped AAA and got 4.5 worse game this gen ever.MgamerBD

It was hyped AA, get your facts straight.

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#37 kayn83
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I honestly think us sheep thought Twilight Princess was AAA because history seemed to be on our side, I mean OoT, WindWaker, etc but I guess we forgot about Majora's Mask :P

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#38 GrlGmr
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Daikatana will always get my vote.Ibacai

Same here. Daikatana is the epitome of floppage. Not in the sense that people were expecting it to be good or even onhype (which was pretty much all negative by the end of the game's development) but in the sense of sheer train wreck. There will never be a bigger flop than Daikatana, just like Romero will never live it down.

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#39 hellfire9988
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I honestly think us sheep thought Twilight Princess was AAA because history seemed to be on our side, I mean OoT, WindWaker, etc but I guess we forgot about Majora's Mask :P

kayn83

Agreed, but Man alot of Nintendo big name games flopped... Loz TP MP:3 Red Steel

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#40 CaseyWegner
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pn03 is the biggest flop of all time. it was hyped AAA and got 5.1
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#41 GeminiForce
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Killzone. Halo killer? Full offail on that.
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#42 AFBrat77
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Daikatana easily.....but most of these kids were in diapers when that came out, so they know nothing about it.
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#43 The_Ish
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I'd like to start out with this:

You do not know what "mathematical" means.

Also, the biggest flop I can think of off the top of my head is DMC2

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#44 Shinobishyguy
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Well, the biggest mathematical flop ever was Lair. But someone is going to argue that Lair wasn't that big of a deal.

Here are my reasons:

Lair: biggest methematical flop of all time.

Killzone: The media hype of it killing Halo 2.

MP:3 : Rated AAA, or AAAA almost everywhere else. Some dumb sheep hyped it Halo killer.

Daikatana: Never played, but on the list due to popular demand

Zelda TP: Took zelda from an AAA/AAAA franchise to an AA franchise...

hellfire9988
for thelast time....TP isn't even the lowest scoring zelda on GS. Majora's mask got an 8.3 and fourswords adventures got an 8.0
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#45 Roushrsh
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Definetly lair, even I thought it was gonna at least get a 7 at worst...
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#46 H3OXTC
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Liar or killzone. Killzone because it was hyped as a halo killer and failed miserably. Liar because it was hyped AAA Gears of War killer and now cows are trying to hide all the hype that they gave liar. That's what you get cows if you hyped crappy games like that lmao.

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#47 blizzvalve
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In score: Lair

In reaction: TP

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#48 WeAreToast
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pn03 is the biggest flop of all time. it was hyped AAA and got 5.1CaseyWegner

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