The REAL difference between xbox live and psn!

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#1 ShadowMoses900
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I notice that people who are looking into buying a console often get misinformed due to the fanboys, so I decided to make this as way for those who are looking for more honest and knowlegable answers. I own both systems and have used the online services on both for a good amount of time. (alot of people who say they have both are lying)

First let me state that neither service is "better", they both offer largely the same stuff. It all boils down to prefrence, so there is no "wrong" answer as to what someone prefers. No one can make this decision for you, the best thing to do is think about what YOUR PREFRENCES ARE and not some fanboys. So I will list advantages that both services have over eachother and you can decide for yourself what is the "better" service for your own prefrences and needs.

Advantages of Xbox Live:

The Party System: Communicating and joining friends is alot smoother and easier on Live than psn. For example on PSN the friend system varies from game to game, so on a game like COD on PSN you can join your friend by simply pressing a button on their name, but for other games on PSN the process can be totally different, and in some cases confusing. On Xbox Live you simply press the middle button and go to your friends and press join and it's the same way across every game.

It's simply more user friendly on Live and makes playing with friends a breeze, it's not that you can't play with your friends on PSN or anything (I play with my friends all the time on PSN) it'sjust that the process on Live is more convienant. You can also have private voice chat with your friends even when they're playing a different game (aka Cross-Game Chat), a feature that PSN is completely lacking at the moment.

More People Have Headsets On Xbox Live: This has alot to do with the fact that the 360 comes with a headset (although it is of pretty low quality)and Sony doesn't package one in with their PS3. While this may sound like a bad thing (such as more idiots and jerks yelling and swearing) but it's actually not, and it's NOT HARD to mute someone.

It makes the online community feelamore alive than PSN, this isn't to say that there arn't any players with headsets on PSN, there are actually ALOT. But it's still no where near the numbers of people with headsets compared to live, but to be fair the offical PS3 bluetooth headset is ALOT better in terms of sound and quality than the headset that comes with the 360 (but it's easy upgrade to a better 360 headset for a low amount of money).

Advantages of Playstation Network:

It's FREE: Yes that's right it's FREE and despite what fanboys tell you it will remain free aswell. With Xbox Live you have to pay a 60$ a year to play your game(s) onlin, although you can also pay 3-months at a time for 30$ and you might even get it cheaper if you shop around on Amazon, but there is no guarantee for that.

It really feels good being able to buy your game and not having any strings attached when you want to access the content that you already paid for in the 1st place. It also feels good to be able to buy another game with the amount of money you save from not having to pay-to-play online, or heck even being able to buy multiple games if you buy greatest hits or used games with that money. Another good thing about this is that you don't suffer from "membership guilt", by wich I mean with Live if you want to play a single player offline game you start to feel guilty because you feel that you need to get your money's worth of paying for online play.

Dedicated Servers For 1st Party Games (or MASSIVE Games): The majority of Sony's first party developers use dedicated servers for their games wich reduces lag by ALOT and can allow for more players online at a time in a match like the resistance games which have 40-60 players at a time in a match (hence the word MASSIVE). Some people don't see the appeal andmay prefersmaller games, but it's truly a marvel being able to look over a battlefield and seeing a large number of people fighting it out in an online match, it feels AWESOME. And wathcing everyone communicate together in large numbers and working towards a single goal feels like your actually part of some great large-scale conflict.

Imagine playing a 40 to 60 player deathmatch with NO ALLIES, it's intense. Or how about a 40-60 player snipers only battle, that's pretty intense too. After the match is over you get this feeling like your just returning home from a war in a sense. You just kind of calm your nerves down and prepare for another intense round. Of course massive numbers isn't what makes a game good neseccarily ( I love Gears Of War and it's small scaled battles) but not being able to experience it feels like missing out. And dedicated servers are a HUGE PLUS.

Other than these differenes they are THE SAME, they both have friends list that tells who's playing what, both have achievemtnts/trophies, both have the same amount of lag/no lag, both have demos and DLC etc... their are a couple of smaller things like PSN has web browser and Live has integrated facebook, but those things don't matter and I doubt anyone cares about them either. Only the things above are what matter.

So think about your prefrences and your wants and pick out what you like more. Ease of joining and communicating with friends with a more alive community, or a freeonline service with massive games. That's really what it boils down to. Their is no "right" or "wrong" decision, what's "right" is what is right for your own needs and prefrences.

Personally I prefer PSN, but Live is good too and better in some areas just like PSN is good too and better in some areas aswell.

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#2 Brownesque
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In my opinion the most significant difference as of this moment is the fact that there isn't the means to effectively deal with cheaters on PSN, while Xbox Live seems to be a more tightly run shift. Dedicated servers are great, but in every P2P game on PS3, it's not made worse to X degree because not only can cheaters show up and not be dealt with, they can literally run a temporary server you've been randomly flung into. PSN is at a crossroads and Sony needs to decide whether they want a walled garden or an open network. If Sony wants a walled garden that means they're going to need significantly more capital to enforce standards, and that means coming up with a means to make all that capital. They might need a subscription fee if they want to have a walled garden. The real problem with PSN at the moment is they went the last 4 years without needing to worry about hacks, and so the infrastructure for dealing with them has atrophied and is now useless. If Sony goes for an open network, they may have a problem monetizing it. Microsoft has been very successful in monetizing Xbox Live, and I think from a business perspective that may be the most sensible direction for Sony. From a consumer perspective, both networks are garbage. A waste of time for any serious, competitive gamer. I repeat, both networks are a waste of time.
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#3 WilliamRLBaker
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

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#4 svenus97
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

When people pay for something they sub-consciously think should be free, they need to justify their purchase. Like what you are doing now.

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#5 Chris_Williams
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... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

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#6 Brownesque
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

No, Xbox Live is awful. You get random matchmaking and a P2P network structure with an authoritarian service provider, what exactly is so great about that?

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... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

Chris_Williams

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

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#8 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

tempest91

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

The best part about Xbox Live is paying Microsoft all those royalties, which is also awesome. I'd pay money for the right to pay Microsoft royalties, it's a great feature. Incomparable, really. No other platform offers you the service of paying a subscription fee and then paying royalties on each product sold from the exclusive service provider. I mean, on PSN, you pay money and they give you discounts on their store and free junk. Who wants all that jazz, lol? Free services, free content? Get real I like paying for royalties.
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

tempest91

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion.
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

Chris_Williams

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion.

makes sense i guess...but there's no real difference.

Well not 60+ dollars difference

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I personally think that if PSN had a party system the two services would be equally as good.

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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

So where does that leave Steam?

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#13 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

Zune_HD

So where does that leave Steam?

Steam is free and yet better than everything. Hell, the games are even cheaper and there's a wider selection. Not only is the free service better, but so are the products.

William's using a false analogy, I'm afraid.

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#14 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

Zaibach

i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion.

makes sense i guess...but there's no real difference.

Well not 60+ dollars difference

i concur, i have a 360 and my friends are always bugging me to put Live on it and i tell them, i'm not throwing down money to play multiplayer games that are free to play on the ps3.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

Brownesque

No, Xbox Live is awful. You get random matchmaking and a P2P network structure with an authoritarian service provider, what exactly is so great about that?

And when they decide to shut down the dedicated servers on PSN.. That part of your game no longer works.

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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

Chris_Williams

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion.

Live is the only unified service, everything goes through MS first, MS tests every thing before we get it. Live just does more in the background

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#17 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

dotWithShoes

No, Xbox Live is awful. You get random matchmaking and a P2P network structure with an authoritarian service provider, what exactly is so great about that?

And when they decide to shut down the dedicated servers on PSN.. That part of your game no longer works.

I don't like PSN.

But guess what, all you have to do is have a random matchmaking fallback or a "create a private match" on a listen server component to your online mode and you can have dedicated servers all day long. When you can no longer afford them you can just fall back on the same garbage you deal with on every other game. On Steam, where there ISN'T a central service provider for your bandwidth, gamers host the dedicated servers, and thus they never get "shut down." You can set up your own server temporarily for any game you want, rent a server for any length of time, use your home computer for a dedicated server box, or set up a listen server on a public server list. I don't need any dedicated servers to play a game of Killing Floor, but alas there are hundreds of them available for me to play on, free of charge. I mean, I've literally got access to dozens of Ventrilo servers just from strangers I've met on the internet that shared them with me either for communication in WoW or because I was in a clan or a match with them and they wanted to communicate with me, and I have shamelessly not paid them a dime for that generous service.

Decentralization works, Xbox Live's network model isn't the only network model in the galaxy, get a clue.

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#18 ultrapc
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One you pay for and one's free ... thats the real difference , Well to me at least other than that i don't really see any difference .

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#19 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

gamer-adam1

i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion.

Live is the only unified service, everything goes through MS first, MS tests every thing before we get it. Live just does more in the background

..what are you talking about?
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PSN tries to be too much, but falls flat on competitive online gaming, withs its clunky party system and hackers. But then again its free so i shouldnt be complaining

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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion. Chris_Williams

Live is the only unified service, everything goes through MS first, MS tests every thing before we get it. Live just does more in the background

..what are you talking about?

He's saying that Microsoft authorizing third party products acts as some kind of QA guarantee, which I sort of half-believe. But PSN does the same thing, and so does Nintendo. They authorize all content sold on their stores. I don't know if Sony tests patches and stuff, but that is part of why MMO developers are more willing to make games for PSN, because they can release a hotfix on PSN and not have to worry about running it through MS for a rubber stamp. Blizzard has complained about this. It would really more pertain to PC versus 360, where 360 has a layer of QA via Microsoft rubber stamping everything put on their store whereas on PC you can get your content from who knows where. It's a trade-off to an extent....on the PC you get less QA from Microsoft but volumes more content, at lower cost, faster. It's sort of a matter of whether you think Microsoft will guarantee you a more stable and secure product than the developer.
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There is no "right" or "wrong" decision, what's "right" is what is right for your own needs and prefrences.

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#23 Brownesque
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PSN tries to be too much, but falls flat on competitive online gaming, withs its clunky party system and hackers. But then again its free so i shouldnt be complaining

pl4yer_f0und
There is no competitive online gaming on either PSN or Xbox Live. Anything you think is there is just an illusion. The only competitive gaming on consoles is via LAN or dedicated servers, on games like Warhawk and Killzone. Anything with random matchmaking or without LAN, dedicated servers or otherwise is immediately disqualified. MLG counts. If you're in MLG on Xbox 360, you're part of a competitive gaming circuit, but the problem is that 95% of the console gaming lifestyle is "pubbing," or playing on public servers with a bunch of random nobodies, which believe it or not, is not competitive gaming. Competitive gaming happens with a minimalist network structure like a LAN connection between players of top skill levels, like MLG or even if you're playing against some leet hoss who happens to be your nextdoor neighbor via LAN. You can have a competitive local gaming match on consoles, like people used to do with Halo CE on the original Xbox before Xbox Live.
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

Chris_Williams

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

i know, that why i wrote THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT, not others and please don't try to attack me because you feel you need to justify why you bought it, other then getting dlc faster and faster downloads i see no point in live in my opinion.

thanks for proving my point and putting words in my mouth in the same breath.

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Ok, so you create a thread that's supposed to give each service's features without bias, but it's biased? Not of much use, brah.

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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

... wow, you wrote all that? the real difference is FREE, thats all i care about, i just wanna game online and ps3 lets me do that without exta cost.

Brownesque

that's the real difference to you, some people care about things other than just cost.

The best part about Xbox Live is paying Microsoft all those royalties, which is also awesome. I'd pay money for the right to pay Microsoft royalties, it's a great feature. Incomparable, really. No other platform offers you the service of paying a subscription fee and then paying royalties on each product sold from the exclusive service provider. I mean, on PSN, you pay money and they give you discounts on their store and free junk. Who wants all that jazz, lol? Free services, free content? Get real I like paying for royalties.

I know, I live to pay them royalties. I would donate money to Microsoft if Xbox Live was free. Also, if you pay someone money and they let you play games, they aren't free.

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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

ahh there he is.......lol.

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#29 _SWAG_
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imho psn is better than xbl because its free. that is all

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#30 Infinite_Access
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

Is this why I have yet to get into a full game of bad company 2 yet (for the 360), that I've had for about a week now?

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#31 Riverwolf007
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if sony spent half the time improving psn that sony guys spend trying to make psn look equal to xbl psn would be the best online service ever.

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#32 Snakemaster9
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One is free, the other you pay 50-60 dollars a year and get cross game chat. :)

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

Infinite_Access

Is this why I have yet to get into a full game of bad company 2 yet (for the 360), that I've had for about a week now?

No, because that's an EA game. The terrible matchmaking in Bad Company 2 is EA's fault, not MS's. The terrible matchmaking in Halo, CoD and every other online game not made by EA on the 360 is MS's fault.

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#34 MrJack3690
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

Only problem with that statement is PSN is exactly the same as Live as far as online gaming goes.

You can join a match, invite friends, join friends etc. and it runs pretty much the same.

Some stuff is better on Live, sure, and party chat is amazing. But when it comes down to simply playing a game online, PSN is the same as Live...and Steam >>>>> both anyways.

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#35 incuensuocha
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Ok, so you create a thread that's supposed to give each service's features without bias, but it's biased? Not of much use, brah.

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How is it biased?
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#36 campzor
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

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ye cause its not like u would ever get crappy food at a restaurant :roll:

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#37 krayzieE99
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

lol you're eating at the wrong places.

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#38 JohnF111
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Its funny how xbox gamers still have to justify the fact they are paying for access to the games they already own. Its the same for gasoline, people need it and no matter the cost people will pay for it, this doesn't change the fact that it should be cheaper and that MS are just plain greedy.
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#39 JohnF111
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One is good, the other is not.

Psn is like the service you get at bad resteraunts. If you expect free refills on your drinks don't expect the waiter or waitress to pay attention, get your order right...etc

Xbox live is like the good resteraunt where drinks cost money...If you pay money your gonna likely get good service.

WilliamRLBaker

The funny thing about your statement is you have already paid for those drinks, MS are now charging you to have them brought to you by the people you've already paid.