The real reason PS3 needs 96mb for its OS.

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#1 mrboo15
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Has anyone else heard the rumors of a major Sony Online upgrade? Apparently the update will make the Xbox LIVE interface look antiquated in comparison. Apparently the interface is set up like a Virtual Town where each user has their own virtual apartment. Within your apartment you store your collection of acheivements and virtual trophies to show off to any "visitors" (i.e. people on your Friends list). Your friends could visit you if you are "home" (i.e. online)and once inside they could "walk around" your apartment and view how you've decorated your place. But more importantly, they could listen to any music or watch videos that you've got in your place (i.e. content you've stored on your PS3). Furthermore, your friends could join you for a game of cards or other simple games while listening to your music or even running a movie on your virtual TV (again using data on your PS3 HD). Once outside of your apartment you could visit the virtual Movie Theater to download--what else?--video content, visit the virtual Arcade, and other more exciting areas that I'm not at liberty to discuss yet... The bottomline is that the interface is going to get a major overhaul and it's supposed to be very slick and user friendly. It will make apparent the advantages of the PS3 hardware and--dare I say--the new Sony Online Network. If this has already been posted I apologise in advance! Otherwise, you heard it here....FIRST!

I don't intend to get too technical but here's a hint...the PS3 reserves 96MB for its OS (operating system). The XB360? A mere 32MB. Why does Sony need THREE TIMES the resources?!? Most programmers were perplexed at this decision, but it will all become clear this Fall. One look at the Virtual Town, complete with your Virtual Apartments, with streaming video and music in your apartment for all friends to share and you too will be a believer.

The Beta version of the new online interface will be shown behind closed doors at GDC. Sony is very interested in getting 3rd parties on board to one-up the acheivement system of LIVE.

Thats why it needs 3 times the memory of 360 for its OS system, because the firmware update will make PS3's online the dogs dangly bits ;) GDC cant come soon enough.
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#2 swaginator
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You know, i'm all about awesome online. But thats just too much, i don't really wanna go too my buddy's home online. I'd rather save some of that ram for more important things, like games and such. But i do hope it turns out well.
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Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.
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Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.luigigreen
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:
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#5 freakout247
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A virtual town? I think Sony has some more important things to work on with the PS3 than a virtual town.
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.mrboo15
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.
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[QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.luigigreen
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.

They copy other companys great ideas so they can give the same great ideas to there own customers, im glad Sony ripped of rumble from ninty, meens i got rumble for my Play Station.
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.mrboo15
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.

They copy other companys great ideas so they can give the same great ideas to there own customers, im glad Sony ripped of rumble from ninty, meens i got rumble for my Play Station.

I love moral coruptness too :|. That's the worse excuse ever. Not only that, but they had to take out rumble for the "all new" sixaxis :lol:
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[QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.luigigreen
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.



Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Id rather Sony copy great ideas and be a copy cat...than try to be "original" and not have any of the cool things microsoft or nintendo has over the years....I cant believe people are flipping the fact that Sony is trying to make its console better through updates.  If they do this you people will poke fun at them, and if they do nothing you will bash the PS3 for not doing what was promised. give me a break
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can't you like turn it off while it's running (the Linux) ?
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Sure this will be exciting at first. However how about when all the flashyness passes and all you wanna do is simply play a game or look at your buddy's achievements. youll hvae to go through all that virtual town crap just to look at something so simple.
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[QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.luigigreen
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.

They copy other companys great ideas so they can give the same great ideas to there own customers, im glad Sony ripped of rumble from ninty, meens i got rumble for my Play Station.

I love moral coruptness too :|. That's the worse excuse ever. Not only that, but they had to take out rumble for the "all new" sixaxis :lol:

So you did'nt know that Sony and imersion have settled there differences? Rumble equiped sixaxis coming to a PS3 near u ;)
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Sure this will be exciting at first. However how about when all the flashyness passes and all you wanna do is simply play a game or look at your buddy's achievements. youll hvae to go through all that virtual town crap just to look at something so simple.Decko5


I guess the Wii's future is bleak too then if this is the case.
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.Uptown
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.



Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Id rather Sony copy great ideas and be a copy cat...than try to be "original" and not have any of the cool things microsoft or nintendo has over the years....I cant believe people are flipping the fact that Sony is trying to make its console better through updates. If they do this you people will poke fun at them, and if they do nothing you will bash the PS3 for not doing what was promised. give me a break

I'm not bashing the PS3. I don't bash consoles, I'd rather bash Sony for being morally corrupt. And no, I'd rather have something fresh and new. If they take something my guess is that most people will say "seen it, done that." But if they at least tried something original then people would go "hey, that sounds cool." Instead, they just fuse together 2 original ideas, and act like it's a new thing. Give me a break Sony.
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[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.luigigreen
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.



Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Id rather Sony copy great ideas and be a copy cat...than try to be "original" and not have any of the cool things microsoft or nintendo has over the years....I cant believe people are flipping the fact that Sony is trying to make its console better through updates. If they do this you people will poke fun at them, and if they do nothing you will bash the PS3 for not doing what was promised. give me a break

I'm not bashing the PS3. I don't bash consoles, I'd rather bash Sony for being morally corrupt. And no, I'd rather have something fresh and new. If they take something my guess is that most people will say "seen it, done that." But if they at least tried something original then people would go "hey, that sounds cool." Instead, they just fuse together 2 original ideas, and act like it's a new thing. Give me a break Sony.



So how many fresh and new things has Nintendo done with the Wii besides the controller?  Mii's?  you mean those 3D avatars that do little to nothing except for in a couple games thus far....but even in warioware its pretty gimmicky...oh well, you can vote on the Everybody votes channel on what you like better with your mii....cats or dogs..lol yes the innovation.
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Such militant corporation hate... why?  This PSN Home thing could turn out to be extremely cool.  Hey, when you guys use thumbsticks to play non-Nintendo games, does it totally ruin the experience for you, knowing that MS/Sony didn't bring the thumbstick analog to consoles?  Are you all, like, "it's so cool that I can move a little or a lot or anywhere in between, but because MS didn't bring the dual analog thumbstick to the console world, I just can't enjoy curbstomps in Gears of War."  Come on, already.
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.Uptown
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.



Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Id rather Sony copy great ideas and be a copy cat...than try to be "original" and not have any of the cool things microsoft or nintendo has over the years....I cant believe people are flipping the fact that Sony is trying to make its console better through updates. If they do this you people will poke fun at them, and if they do nothing you will bash the PS3 for not doing what was promised. give me a break

I'm not bashing the PS3. I don't bash consoles, I'd rather bash Sony for being morally corrupt. And no, I'd rather have something fresh and new. If they take something my guess is that most people will say "seen it, done that." But if they at least tried something original then people would go "hey, that sounds cool." Instead, they just fuse together 2 original ideas, and act like it's a new thing. Give me a break Sony.



So how many fresh and new things has Nintendo done with the Wii besides the controller? Mii's? you mean those 3D avatars that do little to nothing except for in a couple games thus far....but even in warioware its pretty gimmicky...oh well, you can vote on the Everybody votes channel on what you like better with your mii....cats or dogs..lol yes the innovation.

I'd much rather do that stuff than do something i've already done. Everybody Votes Channel is oddly amuzing, and the mii'sare going to be put into more games. Warioware got a 9.1 here. I can't imagine it being gimmicky. Unless that's an opnion. Which it is.
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[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.luigigreen
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.



Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Id rather Sony copy great ideas and be a copy cat...than try to be "original" and not have any of the cool things microsoft or nintendo has over the years....I cant believe people are flipping the fact that Sony is trying to make its console better through updates. If they do this you people will poke fun at them, and if they do nothing you will bash the PS3 for not doing what was promised. give me a break

I'm not bashing the PS3. I don't bash consoles, I'd rather bash Sony for being morally corrupt. And no, I'd rather have something fresh and new. If they take something my guess is that most people will say "seen it, done that." But if they at least tried something original then people would go "hey, that sounds cool." Instead, they just fuse together 2 original ideas, and act like it's a new thing. Give me a break Sony.



So how many fresh and new things has Nintendo done with the Wii besides the controller? Mii's? you mean those 3D avatars that do little to nothing except for in a couple games thus far....but even in warioware its pretty gimmicky...oh well, you can vote on the Everybody votes channel on what you like better with your mii....cats or dogs..lol yes the innovation.

I'd much rather do that stuff than do something i've already done. Everybody Votes Channel is oddly amuzing, and the mii'sare going to be put into more games. Warioware got a 9.1 here. I can't imagine it being gimmicky. Unless that's an opnion. Which it is.



I said the Mii use in warioware is gimmicky, not the game itself... and Everybody Votes channel is terrible.
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I've noticed, threads that start of with "The REAL reason..." never turn out to right at all. It's always a lame guess of a reason without any substance at all.
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.Uptown
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.



Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Id rather Sony copy great ideas and be a copy cat...than try to be "original" and not have any of the cool things microsoft or nintendo has over the years....I cant believe people are flipping the fact that Sony is trying to make its console better through updates. If they do this you people will poke fun at them, and if they do nothing you will bash the PS3 for not doing what was promised. give me a break

I'm not bashing the PS3. I don't bash consoles, I'd rather bash Sony for being morally corrupt. And no, I'd rather have something fresh and new. If they take something my guess is that most people will say "seen it, done that." But if they at least tried something original then people would go "hey, that sounds cool." Instead, they just fuse together 2 original ideas, and act like it's a new thing. Give me a break Sony.



So how many fresh and new things has Nintendo done with the Wii besides the controller? Mii's? you mean those 3D avatars that do little to nothing except for in a couple games thus far....but even in warioware its pretty gimmicky...oh well, you can vote on the Everybody votes channel on what you like better with your mii....cats or dogs..lol yes the innovation.

I'd much rather do that stuff than do something i've already done. Everybody Votes Channel is oddly amuzing, and the mii'sare going to be put into more games. Warioware got a 9.1 here. I can't imagine it being gimmicky. Unless that's an opnion. Which it is.



I said the Mii use in warioware is gimmicky, not the game itself... and Everybody Votes channel is terrible.

Ok, well that might be gimmicky, but I find the Everybody votes channel oddly amusing. And the internet channel is also very cool. Still, I'd much rather have something innovative. But, I guess it comes down to prefrence. It's still upsetting to me that Sony had to take MS and Nintendo's ideads, but whatever.
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="luigigreen"]Too bad they ripped off both Nintendo and Live. Good job Sony! Doing what they do best.Uptown
Yes because we all know ninty havent ripped anything of anyone :roll:

Except Sony does it frequently and they act like they've done nothing wrong.

Lets be real here....how many ORIGINAL things can you do with a CONSOLE feature-wise and multiplayer wise? Xbox Live isnt exactly original...its just organized excellently. The wiimote is original for the most part.....but the rest of the Wii is very unoriginal.

Well, "duh", its a console that play games. There can't be much originality there.
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Isn't better textured games, far more appealing than a room with online friends ? I would take the textures anyday, still i am undecided what to get, PS3 or 360, i have waited until this March to decide, but i do not see PS3 getting any better to be frank, and as it seems neither Bioshock nor Mass effect will come to PS3 anytime soon

Hopefully this GDC clears up things, depends on what Sony will announce in some days

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O MY GAWD that's cool!

I cannot wait for this feature! It will give me a chance to virtually hang out with my friend who moved very far away! YES!
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I so hope it's true!!!!! it could be nice!!!!!! i guess we will know for sure on the 7th(right?)
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You know, i'm all about awesome online. But thats just too much, i don't really wanna go too my buddy's home online. I'd rather save some of that ram for more important things, like games and such. But i do hope it turns out well. swaginator
Lol! I was thinking the same thing. This is sounding incnonveniently over done. Its beginning to remind me of Sony's music download service. Hopefully they dont flop this since they are eatting away from their already dire gaming specs. They just seem so disconnected from what the consumer wants. Live is awesome, because its easy to use and reliable. I stream music off my comp through my 360, while playing game online, and talking to friends with the hit of one button. There is no digital apartment or any weird bologna like that.
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Has anyone else heard the rumors of a major Sony Online upgrade? Apparently the update will make the Xbox LIVE interface look antiquated in comparison. Apparently the interface is set up like a Virtual Town where each user has their own virtual apartment. Within your apartment you store your collection of acheivements and virtual trophies to show off to any "visitors" (i.e. people on your Friends list). Your friends could visit you if you are "home" (i.e. online)and once inside they could "walk around" your apartment and view how you've decorated your place. But more importantly, they could listen to any music or watch videos that you've got in your place (i.e. content you've stored on your PS3). Furthermore, your friends could join you for a game of cards or other simple games while listening to your music or even running a movie on your virtual TV (again using data on your PS3 HD). Once outside of your apartment you could visit the virtual Movie Theater to download--what else?--video content, visit the virtual Arcade, and other more exciting areas that I'm not at liberty to discuss yet... The bottomline is that the interface is going to get a major overhaul and it's supposed to be very slick and user friendly. It will make apparent the advantages of the PS3 hardware and--dare I say--the new Sony Online Network. If this has already been posted I apologise in advance! Otherwise, you heard it here....FIRST!mrboo15

I don't intend to get too technical but here's a hint...the PS3 reserves 96MB for its OS (operating system). The XB360? A mere 32MB. Why does Sony need THREE TIMES the resources?!? Most programmers were perplexed at this decision, but it will all become clear this Fall. One look at the Virtual Town, complete with your Virtual Apartments, with streaming video and music in your apartment for all friends to share and you too will be a believer.

The Beta version of the new online interface will be shown behind closed doors at GDC. Sony is very interested in getting 3rd parties on board to one-up the acheivement system of LIVE.

Thats why it needs 3 times the memory of 360 for its OS system, because the firmware update will make PS3's online the dogs dangly bits ;) GDC cant come soon enough.

It takes 64mb of video memory to run it in the background! What is with that?!?