The reason Sony won't show off M.A.G. yet..

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#1 di_sgt_barber
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My bet: Each character model has about 80 polygons. And it's only possible on PS3! Although I suspect the case is the same with APB, per Microsoft.

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#2 lundy86_4
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I'm just guessing it's slow to progress. It's a big undertaking no matter how you look at it, and guaranteed it's gonna have speed bumps. I think we'll start to hear more over 2009.

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#3 Sonic_on_crack
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I'm thinking the Framerate is somewhere like 5 FPS right now
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#4 cobrax75
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I suspect its design challenges.

Every MMOFPS I can think of ran into a lot of issues with gameplay design. But the chance of this coming out in 2009 are pretty much 0, MMO's on average are delayed at least a year.

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#5 TAKE_IT_BACK
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Probably because they don't want to show screenshots until they can wow people with them.

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#6 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Because it's a bad game, maybe?

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#7 hiphop_quotable
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maybe their waiting for e3

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#8 Nonstop-Madness
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how about the only thing they showed was a teaser and there hard at work on it ?? Watch this game look just as good as KZ2 ... id be like DA 80 POLYGONZ FTW !!! ... actually it will probably look more like BFBC.
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#9 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Because it's not ready to be shown yet. :o

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#10 gamefan67
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Engine optimization PS3s probably blow-up trying to run it..
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#11 Lionheart08
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Hype Building or Development issues. I'd say they're waiting until the game is decent to show off.

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diablo 3 didn't debut until 3 years into development. Interpret this any way you feel like.

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Maybe the same reason it took Square Enix,like, FOREVER,to show off anything concrete about FFXIII? The same reason tons of devs don't show off their projects immediately?

Because it just ain't ready yet.

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#14 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Because it's a bad game, maybe?

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#15 Nike_Air
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My guess ..... because it's multiplayer.

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Probably because they don't want to show screenshots until they can wow people with them.

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They've already shown a screen shot. The game most likely wasn't ready to show last year obviously. I suspect we will see a full demonstration this E3. The last game Zipper released was in 2006. They've probably been working on MAG for 3 years already.

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#17 finalfantasy94
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Cause they are trying to touch it up as much as possible for E3. THat what makes the most sense at least.

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One of the reasons why Nintendo keeps information close to them until near a game or idem coming out. Is because they are use to being ripped off. The idea of MAG could change gaming on a console system. There may be information which Sony does not want to escape. If they give out too much information for a game so far off. Someone may copy it and beat them too the punch.
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Because it's not ready to be shown yet. :o

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^^^ this
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i think its cuz they are refining a build....but the thing i want is for guerilla to help the process esp on the graphical side...socom games have always looked ugly

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]One of the reasons why Nintendo keeps information close to them until near a game or idem coming out. Is because they are use to being ripped off. The idea of MAG could change gaming on a console system. There may be information which Sony does not want to escape. If they give out too much information for a game so far off. Someone may copy it and beat them too the punch.

The only things we know: 1.) Play as Green Beret, Ranger, Navy Seal, and so on. 2.) 256 players 3.) You can parachute down from planes. 4.) Multiplayer only I'm sure there will be some unique game mechanics revealed as well. Zipper is no slouch.
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#22 McManus107
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I think it's for two reasons 1.Development issues 2.they not gonna hype a game that has no official name
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#23 nyctota
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hey OP maybe you can also make a Alan wake thread..

i mean why not

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]One of the reasons why Nintendo keeps information close to them until near a game or idem coming out. Is because they are use to being ripped off. The idea of MAG could change gaming on a console system. There may be information which Sony does not want to escape. If they give out too much information for a game so far off. Someone may copy it and beat them too the punch.Episode_Eve
The only things we know: 1.) Play as Green Beret, Ranger, Navy Seal, and so on. 2.) 256 players 3.) You can parachute down from planes. 4.) Multiplayer only I'm sure there will be some unique game mechanics revealed as well. Zipper is no slouch.

We also know the way you play has changed...In games like Halo rank mean nothing expect maybe to show off. In this game you will be the leader of a large group of players based on rank. Maybe even parts of the game you can't play without an X rank. Giving people even more reasons to keep playing and working on their skills. I could see the idea behind the game changing many other genure.
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#25 di_sgt_barber
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Because it's not ready to be shown yet. :o

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Brilliant. "It's not ready to be shown off yet because it's not ready to be shown off." That's not circular logic at all!
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#26 di_sgt_barber
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]

hey OP maybe you can also make a Alan wake thread..

i mean why not

We've seen Alan Wake in motion, that's why.
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#27 FragTycoon
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maybe their waiting for e3

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That's to obvious for SW :P

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]One of the reasons why Nintendo keeps information close to them until near a game or idem coming out. Is because they are use to being ripped off. The idea of MAG could change gaming on a console system. There may be information which Sony does not want to escape. If they give out too much information for a game so far off. Someone may copy it and beat them too the punch.HarlockJC
The only things we know: 1.) Play as Green Beret, Ranger, Navy Seal, and so on. 2.) 256 players 3.) You can parachute down from planes. 4.) Multiplayer only I'm sure there will be some unique game mechanics revealed as well. Zipper is no slouch.

We also know the way you play has changed...In games like Halo rank mean nothing expect maybe to show off. In this game you will be the leader of a large group of players based on rank. Maybe even parts of the game you can't play without an X rank. Giving people even more reasons to keep playing and working on their skills. I could see the idea behind the game changing many other genure.

That sounds great. Man I have a feeling this game is very ambitious (not just because of the 256 player count).
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#29 DBhova23
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Cause they are trying to touch it up as much as possible for E3. THat what makes the most sense at least.

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#30 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Because it's not ready to be shown yet. :o

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Brilliant. "It's not ready to be shown off yet because it's not ready to be shown off." That's not circular logic at all!

Yeah, a whole 2 minutes of him running around. Alan Wake was announced in 2005 and still no concrete details outside of the game being "episodic" and a"psychological thriller". MAG was just announced last year. Not trying to be negative, just pointing it out.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] The only things we know: 1.) Play as Green Beret, Ranger, Navy Seal, and so on. 2.) 256 players 3.) You can parachute down from planes. 4.) Multiplayer only I'm sure there will be some unique game mechanics revealed as well. Zipper is no slouch.Episode_Eve
We also know the way you play has changed...In games like Halo rank mean nothing expect maybe to show off. In this game you will be the leader of a large group of players based on rank. Maybe even parts of the game you can't play without an X rank. Giving people even more reasons to keep playing and working on their skills. I could see the idea behind the game changing many other genure.

That sounds great. Man I have a feeling this game is very ambitious (not just because of the 256 player count).

pretty much anything developed by Sony is overly ambitious. Resistance is 3 games in one, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are trying to take on Crysis, M.A.G. has 256 Players, God of War 3.. well, speaks for itself, Heavy Rain is pushing QTEs to the max, and the PS3 itself is the incarnation of ambition itself. The biggest issue with pretty much every PS3 exclusive is that it collapses under its own weight, to some degree.
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] We also know the way you play has changed...In games like Halo rank mean nothing expect maybe to show off. In this game you will be the leader of a large group of players based on rank. Maybe even parts of the game you can't play without an X rank. Giving people even more reasons to keep playing and working on their skills. I could see the idea behind the game changing many other genure.di_sgt_barber
That sounds great. Man I have a feeling this game is very ambitious (not just because of the 256 player count).

pretty much anything developed by Sony is overly ambitious. Resistance is 3 games in one, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are trying to take on Crysis, M.A.G. has 256 Players, God of War 3.. well, speaks for itself, Heavy Rain is pushing QTEs to the max, and the PS3 itself is the incarnation of ambition itself. The biggest issue with pretty much every PS3 exclusive is that it collapses under its own weight, to some degree.

I have never felt that way. The PS3 itself may have been overly ambitious as was Resistance 2, but I don't see how KZ2 and Uncharted fell under their own weight.

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#33 InsaneBasura
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Because it's early in development and people like you would be all "omg this looks like crap lolol!!!!"

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Because it's not ready to be shown yet. :o

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Brilliant. "It's not ready to be shown off yet because it's not ready to be shown off." That's not circular logic at all!


No here's how the conversation went.

You: The reason Sony won't show off MAG yet...
Him: Because it's not ready to be shown yet. (smiley used to feign shock)
You: Now I'm putting words in your mouth to make you look silly while failing miserably and actually ending up making myself look silly.

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#34 _SWAG_
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i was so disappointed with socom confrontation so im really looking forward to mag. its the next big thing. and i do hope they wont show it off just yet or too early atleast then the hype wont grow too much like always

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]One of the reasons why Nintendo keeps information close to them until near a game or idem coming out. Is because they are use to being ripped off. The idea of MAG could change gaming on a console system. There may be information which Sony does not want to escape. If they give out too much information for a game so far off. Someone may copy it and beat them too the punch.Episode_Eve
The only things we know: 1.) Play as Green Beret, Ranger, Navy Seal, and so on. 2.) 256 players 3.) You can parachute down from planes. 4.) Multiplayer only I'm sure there will be some unique game mechanics revealed as well. Zipper is no slouch.

There's also 8 player squads with captains...
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Probably because it will be a laggy mess.
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#37 adizorz
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because they are probably saving it for E3...

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Zipper makes magic, they just need a little more time.

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Zipper makes magic, they just need a little more time.

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They are probably saving everything for E3