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#1 FantasySports02
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Do you respect them any less for releasing such an awful game in Haze?
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#2 SpruceCaboose
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I never cared for Timesplitters, so I don't really see much difference.
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#3 FantasySports02
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I never cared for Timesplitters, so I don't really see much difference.SpruceCaboose

Same, but it's like they didn't even put any effort into Haze. They just wanted to sell a few hundred thousand copies as a cheep cash in.

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#4 abdu4
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the way they were hyping the game, it sounded like they were atleast putting some effort into it. Guess Not.
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#5 dotWithShoes
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Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.
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#6 Willy105
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Rare separatists!
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#7 blackice1983
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a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrong
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#8 FantasySports02
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Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.dotWithShoes

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

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#9 waynehead895
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Goldeneye and Perfect Dark is where it stops. TS is pretty much irrelevant to me and so is Haze.
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#10 ThaGreatness007
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a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

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#11 Willy105
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.FantasySports02

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

But Nintendo is also a developer.

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#12 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongThaGreatness007

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

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#13 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.Willy105

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

But Nintendo is also a developer.

as is sony.

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#14 Master_Hermes
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.FantasySports02

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo. Sony also develops, but not as much as Nintendo does.

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#15 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.Master_Hermes

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

Yah I understand that. Nintendo is the exception, though.

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#16 thrones
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[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.Master_Hermes

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

So does Sony :|

And Microsoft have Lionhead as first party last I remember, maybe some others.

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#17 Relys
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongThaGreatness007

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

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#18 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.FantasySports02

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

Yah I understand that. Nintendo is the exception, though.

Sony does to Sony has Sony Studios Santa Monica, Sony Studios Liverpool, Sony Studios Japan (Now called Team Ico) I forget I know there are more, since Sony used to make games for NES, Genesis, and SNES before they made a Console.
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#19 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.thrones

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

So does Sony :|

And Microsoft have Lionhead as first party last I remember, maybe some others.

They have seperate studios that they own. That's different. Like MS owns RARE and Lionhead.

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#20 thrones
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongRelys

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

It was better than PD0 :|

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#21 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="FantasySports02"][QUOTE="Master_Hermes"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.Nintendo_Ownes7

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

Yah I understand that. Nintendo is the exception, though.

Sony does two Sony has Sony Studios Santa Monica, Sony Studios Liverpool, Sony Studios Japan (Now called Team Ico) I forget I know there are more, since Sony used to make games for NES, Genesis, and SNES before they made a Console.

What games has Sony made this gen?

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#22 game_masta14
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

Thanks for telling me you haven't played it. I played the game after getting Call of Duty 4 and I can tell you that the game is anything but a run of the mill shooter. There are a lot of great things about this game but I'm not going to name them since it will take up most of my post. Also saying Resistance is run of the mill is like saying Halo 3 is also, or Call of Duty 4 for that matter.
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#23 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongthrones

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

It was better than PD0 :|

they both were bad but lems dont brag about their trash unlike. you know

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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"][QUOTE="Master_Hermes"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.FantasySports02

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

Yah I understand that. Nintendo is the exception, though.

Sony does two Sony has Sony Studios Santa Monica, Sony Studios Liverpool, Sony Studios Japan (Now called Team Ico) I forget I know there are more, since Sony used to make games for NES, Genesis, and SNES before they made a Console.

What games has Sony made this gen?

MLB07 and 08 the Show, Wipeout (I think it is PSN download) Thats all that I can think of so far, but comming out they have the Agency, God of War 3, Team Icos next game.
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#25 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

It was better than PD0 :|

they both were bad but lems dont brag about their trash unlike. you know

You have some pretty haughty standards then. I enjoyed both them games :| Pretty great games :D

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#26 Relys
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

It was better than PD0 :|

they both were bad but lems dont brag about their trash unlike. you know

Of corse it was better than PD0.

Terrible, terrible game! I dont' know what happend to Rare... (And I'm not a ****ing lemming).

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#27 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wronggame_masta14

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

Thanks for telling me you haven't played it. I played the game after getting Call of Duty 4 and I can tell you that the game is anything but a run of the mill shooter. There are a lot of great things about this game but I'm not going to name them since it will take up most of my post. Also saying Resistance is run of the mill is like saying Halo 3 is also, or Call of Duty 4 for that matter.

what halo 3 and cod 4 are run of the mill shooters. how can this be? two fp's that havent evolved much from their first titles that came out in 2001 and 2003. yet they still scored and sold better. hmm maybe next time they should create a shooter that offers a different experiance than one that plays like an early xbox 1 title

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#28 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="FantasySports02"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"][QUOTE="Master_Hermes"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Everybody makes a bad game, even the all mighty Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.Nintendo_Ownes7

??? Nintendo,Sony, and MS are publishers.

Nintendo has dozens of in-housedevelopers. MarioGalaxy, Twilight Princess, Wii Fit, Mario Kart and the like are made by Nintendo themselves, not 3rd parties, not 2nd parties, not outside studios owned by Nintendo, just Nintendo.

Yah I understand that. Nintendo is the exception, though.

Sony does two Sony has Sony Studios Santa Monica, Sony Studios Liverpool, Sony Studios Japan (Now called Team Ico) I forget I know there are more, since Sony used to make games for NES, Genesis, and SNES before they made a Console.

What games has Sony made this gen?

MLB07 and 08 the Show, Wipeout (I think it is PSN download) Thats all that I can think of so far, but comming out they have the Agency, God of War 3, Team Icos next game.

The Studios have names. Don't they? What's the studio that's making God of War. I forget.

That's what I'm talking about.

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#29 thrones
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[QUOTE="game_masta14"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

Thanks for telling me you haven't played it. I played the game after getting Call of Duty 4 and I can tell you that the game is anything but a run of the mill shooter. There are a lot of great things about this game but I'm not going to name them since it will take up most of my post. Also saying Resistance is run of the mill is like saying Halo 3 is also, or Call of Duty 4 for that matter.

what halo 3 and cod 4 are run of the mill shooters. how can this be? two fp's that havent evolved much from their first titles that came out in 2001 and 2003. yet they still scored and sold better. hmm maybe next time they should create a shooter that offers a different experiance than one that plays like an early xbox 1 title

Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 played like an Xbox title really, especially Halo 3. But they were both brilliant, brilliant games.

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#30 game_masta14
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongRelys

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

It was better than PD0 :|

they both were bad but lems dont brag about their trash unlike. you know

Of corse it was better than PD0.

Terrible, terrible game! I dont' know what happend to Rare... (And I'm not a ****ing lemming).

I was gonna call you a lem but now I won't. I still don't believe you've played the game though:|.

EDIT: typo

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#31 thrones
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The Studios have names. Don't they? What's the studio that's making God of War. I forget.

That's what I'm talking about.

FantasySports02

Sony Santa Monica.

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#32 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]


The Studios have names. Don't they? What's the studio that's making God of War. I forget.

That's what I'm talking about.

thrones

Sony Santa Monica.

Oh... Well,I suck

*crawls under desk shaking*

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#33 bigboss4658
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

It was better than that POS PD0

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#34 heretrix
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I never liked any of their games, so they never had much of a reputation to begin with as far as I'm concerned.

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#35 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongbigboss4658

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

It was better than that POS PD0

whats with cows and PD0

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[QUOTE="bigboss4658"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongblackice1983

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was great.

run of the mill shooter only played because it was the only game worth playing during launch

It was better than that POS PD0

whats with cows and PD0

What's with you and the MS teet?

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#37 gdp72
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whats with cows and PD0

blackice1983

What's with lemmings and the Resistance hate? For the lems that are saying Resistance is sub-par, tell me one thing about the story. Resistance kills PD0 and to tell you the truth, I liked it better then Halo: CE. This is the only forum that I know of that doesn't give Resistance AAA status. Of coarse most of the lemmings follow one another and bash Resistance, then when you ask for some proof of them playing the game, you get crickets for the most part. Resistance kicked butt but it's okay that lems are oblivious to this. Keep up with the ignorant, fanboy logic.

PS: Free Radical sucks. I hated Timesplitters, the Haze demo was terrible and I never was a big Perfect Dark fan. I thought the N64 game was terrible also. I'm not much of a fan of Ubisoft either.

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#38 black_awpN1
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Bad Attempt at Flamebait, or jsut a waste of thred? you decide.

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#39 Andrew_Xavier
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Do you respect them any less for releasing such an awful game in Haze?FantasySports02

The game was considered "fair" on this board,
fair =/= awful. My opinion has not changed, I'll still look at their next game without prejudice.

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[QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="ThaGreatness007"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]a dev making a fps exclusive to the ps3 lol. thats were they went wrongthrones

Resistance was made only on the PS3 and it was subpar.

Fixed.

It was better than PD0 :|

Wow, what an accomplishment.

Resistance is still a boring, generic, run of the mill shooter and the only reason it gets any praise is because it's still one of the best games on the PS3.

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#41 rolo107
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I never cared for Timesplitters, so I don't really see much difference.FantasySports02

Same, but it's like they didn't even put any effort into Haze. They just wanted to sell a few hundred thousand copies as a cheep cash in.

With a two year development time? I'm sure there is something that went on in the background that caused this.

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#42 gdp72
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Wow, what an accomplishment.

Resistance is still a boring, generic, run of the mill shooter and the only reason it gets any praise is because it's still one of the best games on the PS3.

sexy_chimp

Again I will ask. Tell us at least one event within the storymode or are you another fanboy who says this to follow the rest of the pack?

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#43 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Wow, what an accomplishment.

Resistance is still a boring, generic, run of the mill shooter and the only reason it gets any praise is because it's still one of the best games on the PS3.

gdp72

Again I will ask. Tell us at least one event within the storymode or are you another fanboy who says this to follow the rest of the pack?

Hmm, kinda hard to remember, it was a while ago. I remember one part where your on a platform and then these tubes rise up around you, and then these tall stringly aliens start coming out and attacking you. I also remember the Auger, the gun that could shoot through walls and make a shield for you, and the gun that shot sticky bombs. The enemies I fought include normal aliens, Auger aliens, lion aliens, giant aliens, big stringy aliens, and a big robot spider like alien.

That's what I remember.

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#44 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]

whats with cows and PD0

gdp72

What's with lemmings and the Resistance hate? For the lems that are saying Resistance is sub-par, tell me one thing about the story. Resistance kills PD0 and to tell you the truth, I liked it better then Halo: CE. This is the only forum that I know of that doesn't give Resistance AAA status. Of coarse most of the lemmings follow one another and bash Resistance, then when you ask for some proof of them playing the game, you get crickets for the most part. Resistance kicked butt but it's okay that lems are oblivious to this. Keep up with the ignorant, fanboy logic.

PS: Free Radical sucks. I hated Timesplitters, the Haze demo was terrible and I never was a big Perfect Dark fan. I thought the N64 game was terrible also. I'm not much of a fan of Ubisoft either.

I was with you till the Perfect Dark bashing. You can't bash Perfect Dark. You can talk about how it didn't age well all you want, which is fine, but it still offers more CONTENT than most FPS do these days. It's kind of pathetic that I find more satisfaction in an N64 FPS than I do in the entire 360 library. Not saying that the shooters suck on the 360, but I am saying 9.9 was a worthy score, and FEAR was the last major advancement in a First Person Shooter.

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#45 gdp72
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Hmm, kinda hard to remember, it was a while ago. I remember one part where your on a platform and then these tubes rise up around you, and then these tall stringly aliens start coming out and attacking you. I also remember the Auger, the gun that could shoot through walls and make a shield for you, and the gun that shot sticky bombs. The enemies I fought include normal aliens, Auger aliens, lion aliens, giant aliens, big stringy aliens, and a big robot spider like alien.

That's what I remember.

sexy_chimp

Wow you are the first one to actually respond when I ask this question. To each his own. Though Resistance didn't do anything new, it did everything well IMO. Like I said, not to drag Halo:CE into this, but I enjoyed Resistance more probably because it had creatures that were large and somewhat resembled a Boss unlike Halo:CE that didn't have any Bosses from what I remember. Halo and Resistance are both in my top 10 for my favorite games.

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#46 gdp72
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I was with you till the Perfect Dark bashing. You can't bash Perfect Dark. You can talk about how it didn't age well all you want, which is fine, but it still offers more CONTENT than most FPS do these days. It's kind of pathetic that I find more satisfaction in an N64 FPS than I do in the entire 360 library. Not saying that the shooters suck on the 360, but I am saying 9.9 was a worthy score, and FEAR was the last major advancement in a First Person Shooter.

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Sorry, I have never been a PD fan. I prefer shooting at aliens. It's nothing against you though. Like I said, to each his own.

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Wow this has gone so far off topic that I don't know if it can be brought back....but I'll try

I still have respect for FR...I love the TimeSplitters games and like some have sad...almost every dev. has at least one stinker

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

I was with you till the Perfect Dark bashing. You can't bash Perfect Dark. You can talk about how it didn't age well all you want, which is fine, but it still offers more CONTENT than most FPS do these days. It's kind of pathetic that I find more satisfaction in an N64 FPS than I do in the entire 360 library. Not saying that the shooters suck on the 360, but I am saying 9.9 was a worthy score, and FEAR was the last major advancement in a First Person Shooter.

gdp72

Sorry, I have never been a PD fan. I prefer shooting at aliens. It's nothing against you though. Like I said, to each his own.

RFOM is great fps. Far more better than AAA garbage PDZ from every aspect.....Reason PDZ got AAA status because it was lauch game for 360 and it was made by RARE....

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#49 sexy_chimp
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Wow this has gone so far off topic that I don't know if it can be brought back....but I'll try

I still have respect for FR...I love the TimeSplitters games and like some have sad...almost every dev. has at least one stinker

Evz0rz

This thread is now about Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts.

It will be the best game ever.

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

I was with you till the Perfect Dark bashing. You can't bash Perfect Dark. You can talk about how it didn't age well all you want, which is fine, but it still offers more CONTENT than most FPS do these days. It's kind of pathetic that I find more satisfaction in an N64 FPS than I do in the entire 360 library. Not saying that the shooters suck on the 360, but I am saying 9.9 was a worthy score, and FEAR was the last major advancement in a First Person Shooter.

gdp72

Sorry, I have never been a PD fan. I prefer shooting at aliens. It's nothing against you though. Like I said, to each his own.

But you did shoot at aliens :D

But, like you said, to each his own. At least you can admit it instead of going on a fanboy rant about how it sucks.