The sheep lied to us: Brawl is terrible.

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#1 marmadukefan
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I just played it for the first time at a friends house and it is TERRIBLE,

The control layout defines bad, especially if you are used to actually good fighters on PS2 or 360.

The camera is zoomed out WAAAY too far, its really annoying. especially if you are just a little dot on a screen jumping for the little brawl orb on the edge of the screen.

Worst there is NO DEPTH. It is quite painful. each character has about 5 moves 2 of them just being basic punches. Its not quite a button masher, but it still just feels like fail.

Play it, then play a classicly awesome fighter like MvC2. MVC2 is only one level, but each character has tons of moves, specials and hypercombos, and you can string epic aircombos together once you really get skilled.

The only reason I could think of is if you are a such a huge nintendo fan that playing as samus vs princess peach stimulates your imagination.

So I all the sheep are in denial. They know its bad, but they want to be able to use it to counter games like GEOW RFOM and halo 3 in arguments about multiplayer games. Its not in the same league as them.

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#2 6matt6
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I didnt enjoy it too much either but its a fun game if you have friends to play it with.
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#5 Ze_ALEX
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]I didnt enjoy it too much either but its a fun game if you have friends to play it with.jack_russel
no wonder you didn't enjoy it.



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#6 6matt6
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]I didnt enjoy it too much either but its a fun game if you have friends to play it with.jack_russel
no wonder you didn't enjoy it.

Nice. But my friends dont like brawl they prefer halo or mario kart.

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#7 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="6matt6"]I didnt enjoy it too much either but its a fun game if you have friends to play it with.Ze_ALEX
no wonder you didn't enjoy it.



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#8 marmadukefan
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I didnt enjoy it too much either but its a fun game if you have friends to play it with.6matt6

any game is.

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#9 Mongo-Boss
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New account for this?

Arcana Heart might be better but I can see SSBB being a better fighter than SC4.

It's a great game that does very little in the gameplay area other than add the new orb and keep the rest as it was on the N64 but it is still fun.

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#10 ONLYDOD
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Go write a review for it if you hate it so much, it's a little more constructive than moaning about it in SW.
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#11 locopatho
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all the sheep are in denial.

marmadukefan

Apparently, so are all the professional critics, Mr. Level 1.

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#12 pop1233
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Guess what I think your lying to us, I bet you've never even played the game before
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#13 LibertySaint
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OMFG the internet lied to us, AGAIN!
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#14 BearEatsMan
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You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

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Note to self do not post on forums under lack of sleep. I end up in peoples sigs.
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#16 marmadukefan
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Guess what I think your lying to us, I bet you've never even played the game beforepop1233

yeah i have.

Is it so incomprehensible that someone couldn't enjoy that magical wonderment you feel whenever you look at mario's mustache, because they don't spend dateless saturday nights replaying super mario rpg which is "such a classic game, so much better than mindless games today like halo".

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#17 naruto7777
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i agree
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#18 marmadukefan
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You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

BearEatsMan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

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#19 6matt6
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[QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

marmadukefan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO

hold on. Do not use the word depth around gears please.

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#20 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

marmadukefan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

ITT:Opinions don't exist

ah, gotta love the level 1 accounts always trying to create flame wars with over 200 posts. We really need a level limit in SW.

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#21 rolo107
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Your opinion is greater then the majority of critics, majority of the game owners, and the majority of people in general? LOLK.

/thread

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#23 jg4xchamp
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Critical praise
Commercial success
just about says it

also Brawl is by no means a button masher. The depth of the gameplay is a matter of combat + environments+ weapons

its far more fast paced, and a bit more wild on the gameplay side.

The game is an excellent MP game. Offline it is fantastic, and online with your friends it can still be a blast.

the only problem with the game is that Wii online lacks so many of the things that makes XBL great.
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#24 marmadukefan
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[QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

Sonick54

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

ITT:Opinions don't exist

ah, gotta love the level 1 accounts always trying to create flame wars with over 200 posts. We really need a level limit in SW.

Thats you're argument? That my opinion is wrong and you can't explain why. and no this couldn't actually be my opinion its just me trying to start a flame war. come back to reality. sonic the hedgehog doesn't exist he was just character created by the japanese, so they could help seperate people who define themselves as "Fans" from their money, and the quality of the game doesn't matter because they will justify its qualitty with flawed arguments.

Gears was a new IP and it had to prove itself. It had nothing behind it but epics name and how freakin awesome it looked in trailers.

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#25 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

6matt6

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO

hold on. Do not use the word depth around gears please.

or halo..its just spray melee, spray melee, spray melee..you get the point

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#26 marmadukefan
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Your opinion is greater then the majority of critics, majority of the game owners, and the majority of people in general? LOLK.

/thread

rolo107

oh this guy said /thread so everyboy its time to leave this guy said /thread, so the thread must be over.

Man that guy is smart, saying things which I already addressed in my first post.

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#27 6matt6
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[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

Pinkyimp

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO

hold on. Do not use the word depth around gears please.

or halo..its just spray melee, spray melee, spray melee..you get the point

Halo has more tactics involved if you play team objective games. Spraying melee would lead you nowhere.

Its not up there as the most in depth games ever.

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#28 BearEatsMan
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[QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

marmadukefan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

I have a 360 and have gears and halo 3... But i enjoy playing smash more.

get-together with friends for Smash > Online Gears and Halo.

I don't get where this whole "no-depth arguement" comes from. I don't consider myself "pro" or anything but get on smashboards.com and look at how seriously people take this game, and how detail they pay attention to.

You might not like the game, that's cool, but to say it has no depth is stupid.

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#29 marmadukefan
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[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

Pinkyimp

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO

hold on. Do not use the word depth around gears please.

or halo..its just spray melee, spray melee, spray melee..you get the point

Halo really

Critical praise
Commercial success
just about says it

also Brawl is by no means a button masher. The depth of the gameplay is a matter of combat + environments+ weapons

its far more fast paced, and a bit more wild on the gameplay side.

The game is an excellent MP game. Offline it is fantastic, and online with your friends it can still be a blast.

its not a good game, and no amount of squeaky voiced nintendo fanboys that play it for bright colors can change that fact.


the only problem with the game is that Wii online lacks so many of the things that makes XBL great. jg4xchamp
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#30 Revolution_Fan
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The control layout defines bad, especially if you are used to actually good fighters on PS2 or 360.

It has customizable controls.

The camera is zoomed out WAAAY too far, its really annoying. especially if you are just a little dot on a screen jumping for the little brawl orb on the edge of the screen. Opinion, I guess.

Worst there is NO DEPTH. It is quite painful. each character has about 5 moves 2 of them just being basic punches. Its not quite a button masher, but it still just feels like fail.

Each character has 17 moves. 1 neutral attack,3 tilt attacks,4 smash attacks, 5 aerial attacks, plus 4 grabs.18 if you count the Final Smash. Every character is different and so are their attacks.You can't use Donkey Kong the same way you would use Meta knight because you would ur *** kicked(unless ur playing with n00bs).

Its okay to say that the game is horrible. Thats your opinion, but you lose all credibility when you go around making up bulls*t.

marmadukefan

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#31 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

marmadukefan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

ITT:Opinions don't exist

ah, gotta love the level 1 accounts always trying to create flame wars with over 200 posts. We really need a level limit in SW.

Thats you're argument? That my opinion is wrong and you can't explain why. and no this couldn't actually be my opinion its just me trying to start a flame war. come back to reality. sonic the hedgehog doesn't exist he was just character created by the japanese, so they could help seperate people who define themselves as "Fans" from their money, and the quality of the game doesn't matter because they will justify its qualitty with flawed arguments.

Gears was a new IP and it had to prove itself. It had nothing behind it but epics name and how freakin awesome it looked in trailers.

mind pointing out where i said your opinion was "wrong"? Or do you enjoy putting words into my mouth?

You're coming off as if your statements about the game are true. You basically said in your first post "sheep are in denial".

Hey, if you want to think brawl's a terrible game then go ahead, i got no prob with that. Just don't act as if everyone thinks it's terrible. And, by the way, i'm aware of brawl's several flaws but i still think it's a great game. And reviews seem to agree with me. So, yes, sheep are allowed to use brawl as an argument or an AAAE

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#33 6matt6
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[QUOTE="BearEatsMan"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

marmadukefan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

I have a 360 and have gears and halo 3... But i enjoy playing smash more.

get-together with friends for Smash > Online Gears and Halo.

I don't get where this whole "no-depth arguement" comes from. I don't consider myself "pro" or anything but get on smashboards.com and look at how seriously people take this game, and how detail they pay attention to.

You might not like the game, that's cool, but to say it has no depth is stupid.

sorry i only address posts with 3 grammar and spelling mistakes or less.

Or in other words. ''I have no come back so I will use a random excuse to disregard what you have said''

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#34 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

BearEatsMan

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

I have a 360 and have gears and halo 3... But i enjoy playing smash more.

get-together with friends for Smash > Online Gears and Halo.

I don't get where this whole "no-depth arguement" comes from. I don't consider myself "pro" or anything but get on smashboards.com and look at how seriously people take this game, and how detail they pay attention to.

You might not like the game, that's cool, but to say it has no depth is stupid.

it currently has far less depth than melee though.

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#35 LibertySaint
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Your opinion is greater then the majority of critics, majority of the game owners, and the majority of people in general? LOLK.

/thread

rolo107
ummm of coarse his is DUH!
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#36 marmadukefan
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[QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

You made a new account to flame smash... Grats.

Well, i've played brawl 6 hours straight before, but of course since im i sheep and I lied to you about it being good, I just love to torture myself playing that terrible game.

6matt6

What do you like about it? The fact that you can admire zero suit samus' body? Or are you normal and like to play it with 3 friends.

Well newsflash if you had gotten a 360 you could play games like gears or halo 3 you could have fun with your friends, and get a quality game with actual depth.

I have a 360 and have gears and halo 3... But i enjoy playing smash more.

get-together with friends for Smash > Online Gears and Halo.

I don't get where this whole "no-depth arguement" comes from. I don't consider myself "pro" or anything but get on smashboards.com and look at how seriously people take this game, and how detail they pay attention to.

You might not like the game, that's cool, but to say it has no depth is stupid.

sorry i only address posts with 3 grammar and spelling mistakes or less.

Or in other words. ''I have no come back so I will use a random excuse to disregard what you have said''

No its a rule I have for myself and I will always follow it. He can correct it and repost if he wants me to use my arguments of which I have plenty.

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[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

I have a 360 and have gears and halo 3... But i enjoy playing smash more.

get-together with friends for Smash > Online Gears and Halo.

I don't get where this whole "no-depth arguement" comes from. I don't consider myself "pro" or anything but get on smashboards.com and look at how seriously people take this game, and how detail they pay attention to.

You might not like the game, that's cool, but to say it has no depth is stupid.

marmadukefan

sorry i only address posts with 3 grammar and spelling mistakes or less.

Or in other words. ''I have no come back so I will use a random excuse to disregard what you have said''

No its a rule I have for myself and I will always follow it. He can correct it and repost if he wants me to use my arguments of which I have plenty.

Ok why don't you address the points for me then?

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#38 marmadukefan
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[QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"][QUOTE="marmadukefan"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"]

I have a 360 and have gears and halo 3... But i enjoy playing smash more.

get-together with friends for Smash > Online Gears and Halo.

I don't get where this whole "no-depth arguement" comes from. I don't consider myself "pro" or anything but get on smashboards.com and look at how seriously people take this game, and how detail they pay attention to.

You might not like the game, that's cool, but to say it has no depth is stupid.

6matt6

sorry i only address posts with 3 grammar and spelling mistakes or less.

Or in other words. ''I have no come back so I will use a random excuse to disregard what you have said''

No its a rule I have for myself and I will always follow it. He can correct it and repost if he wants me to use my arguments of which I have plenty.

Ok why don't you address the points for me then?

what points? if you have a question ask it.

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#39 Tjeremiah1988
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with friends its fun. I actually finally powered up my Wii last week to play with my friend that just got back from the army and it was a blast. This is a game that needs more than one person in the same room playing to enjoy IMO.
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#40 death919
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Wow what's with the Smash Bros hate lately? During the Gamecube era, even the most die-hard fanboys loved Smash Bros... yet now, everyone hates it. Lame.

Anyways, of course I love it.

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#41 marmadukefan
Member since 2008 • 185 Posts

Wow what's with the Smash Bros hate lately? During the Gamecube era, even the most die-hard fanboys loved Smash Bros... yet now, everyone hates it. Lame.

Anyways, of course I love it.

death919

Thats because during the gamecube era it was a quaint game (massively selling) that was surrounded by mountainous hype, and nobody claimed it to be in the same league as halos or metal gears.

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#42 6matt6
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Wow what's with the Smash Bros hate lately? During the Gamecube era, even the most die-hard fanboys loved Smash Bros... yet now, everyone hates it. Lame.

Anyways, of course I love it.

death919

Its not that I hate it. I just think games that you cant enjoy without having your friends there is a bit disappointing. Everytime I feel like playing Brawl I don't want to have to tell my friends to come round. If I did tell them to come round and play brawl they would most likely ask to play Halo or Mario Kart instead.

I should have made this my first post in this thread.

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#44 Ewok432
Member since 2006 • 425 Posts

OP is really the worst kind of person. really tho, trying to diss others games to make urs feel better = epic fail.

how bout u go play all these great fighters that are better than brawl rather than whining like the insignificant little girl you are.

srsly tho this poast screams "i need teh attentionzzzz"

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#45 death919
Member since 2004 • 4724 Posts
[QUOTE="death919"]

Wow what's with the Smash Bros hate lately? During the Gamecube era, even the most die-hard fanboys loved Smash Bros... yet now, everyone hates it. Lame.

Anyways, of course I love it.

marmadukefan

Thats because during the gamecube era it was a quaint game (massively selling) that was surrounded by mountainous hype, and nobody claimed it to be in the same league as halos or metal gears.

But it WAS in the same league as Halos and Metal Gears, there were still people playing it 6 years after it came out and its sales were on par with Halo and MGS games too.

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#47 marmadukefan
Member since 2008 • 185 Posts
[QUOTE="death919"]

Wow what's with the Smash Bros hate lately? During the Gamecube era, even the most die-hard fanboys loved Smash Bros... yet now, everyone hates it. Lame.

Anyways, of course I love it.

6matt6

Its not that I hate it. I just think games that you cant enjoy without having your friends there is a bit disappointing. Everytime I feel like playing Brawl I don't want to have to tell my friends to come round. If I did tell them to come round and play brawl they would most likely ask to play Halo or Mario Kart instead.

I should have made this my first post in this thread.

bingo

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#48 pop1233
Member since 2005 • 541 Posts
I think this guys just pissed off that he has no friends to play smash with, but he dosen't need any friends to play halo with he just needs a live acount so therefore he thinks its a better game.
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#49 Revolution_Fan
Member since 2006 • 767 Posts
[QUOTE="marmadukefan"]

The control layout defines bad, especially if you are used to actually good fighters on PS2 or 360.

It has customizable controls.

The camera is zoomed out WAAAY too far, its really annoying. especially if you are just a little dot on a screen jumping for the little brawl orb on the edge of the screen. Opinion, I guess.

Worst there is NO DEPTH. It is quite painful. each character has about 5 moves 2 of them just being basic punches. Its not quite a button masher, but it still just feels like fail.

Each character has 17 moves. 1 neutral attack,3 tilt attacks,4 smash attacks, 5 aerial attacks, plus 4 grabs.18 if you count the Final Smash. Every character is different and so are their attacks.You can't use Donkey Kong the same way you would use Meta knight because you would ur *** kicked(unless ur playing with n00bs).

Its okay to say that the game is horrible. Thats your opinion, but you lose all credibility when you go around making up bulls*t.

Revolution_Fan

Since nobody read it..............HOLY CRAP I just realized my post had spelling errors,and everyone knows spelling is a such a big deal in forums on teh internet.

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#50 Ewok432
Member since 2006 • 425 Posts

haha excuses much. honestly tho does playing a game once at a friends house make you think that people will care about your opinion on said game. cause heres a news flash and i'll type this one slowly so hopefully you can comprehend.

NOOOO ONEE CAREESSSSS