The shooter casuals.

How come people act like only the Wii is aimed at casuals? 360 and PS3 are also aimed at casuals - the SHOOTER CASUALS. You know the ones I'm talking about: the annoying people who buy or ask for a 360 or PS3 so they can play shooters, shooters, and more shooters, the people who think they're "h4rdc0re becuz I play geers uf war all dai lol"

I've got news for you: if all you do is play shooters like Gears and COD - YOU ARE A CASUAL. YOU ARE NOT HARDCORE. Just like those Wii casuals who play shovelware mini-games all day long. Just like the sports casuals who bought a PS2 just so they could play the new Madden each year and NOTHING ELSE. Shooter casuals are ruining PS3 and 360. All the devs want to make these days are "gritty and dark, realistic" shooters. Variety and original ideas are dying out, because all you people want to do is play a 3-hour shooter campaign and then go online and play boring, repetitive multi-player. "zomg wow, I can't wait to play Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2 World At War Again, where I fight the same campaign in the same gritty, 'dark' environments, then I go online and just play deathmatch over and over and over till the next sequel comes out, then I start the whole thing over again!"

This is the reason this generation will never be better than the PS2-XB-GC era: variety. Last-gen had much better variety than this one - even 3D platformers were just as huge as they were in the '90s, but they're virtually dead now. This gen started very promising, but after Gears came out, that's when we got screwed. Bunch of meathead soldiers killing aliens in dark environments and soldiers fighting in blown-up cities. Oh wow, I just described every big console shooter released in the past two years.

Am I the only one who notices this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

if someone spends lot of time playing gears of war than he is hardcore geow player as simple as that.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]We're all casual. /threadAlexSays

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]List every game you've ever played right here right now so we can all make a fair assessment. _rpg_FAN

Yeah it was a joke but I guess I need to make it a little more clear next time.

[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]List every game you've ever played right here right now so we can all make a fair assessment. AlexSays

Yeah it was a joke but I guess I need to make it a little more clear next time.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]We're all casual. /threadAlexSays

Im going to list the most relevant ones, I've played MANY games, I started gaming with a NES.

I played Mario Bros

Contra

Duck Hunt

Castlevania

the lame metal gear port

in Snes I played

all the DK games (country was my favorite)

FF6

Zelda A link to the Past

Chrono Trigger

F zero

Super Mario World

Super Metroid

V rally

N64 and Ps1.

Resident Evil 1, 2, 3

Zelda OOT

Mario 64

Banjo 1,2

SSB

FF7

FF8

Ace Combat 3 (japanese version)

GT2

Chrono Cross

Silent Hill

Mario Kart 64

Crash

Creatures

PC

Every Half Life Game ever released, No exception.

EE 1, 2.

RTCW

Comand and Conquer RA1,2

Age Of Empires 1,2,3

World Of Failcraft

Ps2

MGS2,3

FFX, FF X-2, FFXII

Ace combat games, played them all I only have 4 now

Resident Evil Code Veronica

Xenosaga 1, 2 ,3

Wild Arms 3

Silent Hill 2, 3, 4

etc

Thats it for Past gens.

Now, Gears, Cod, Mgs4, SSBB, SMG, MP3, GTAIV, Crysis, Warhawk, Uncharted etc ETC

that list is less than 5% of the total amount of games I've probably Played. I've had MANY handhelds GBC,GBA,DS,PSP but im leaving those out because the list would duplicate and I got tired

The biggest problem this gen is narrowminded gamers. They complain about issues that really don't exist in an attempt to seem intelligent. There is so much variety amongs all of the different platforms, includidng the handhelds and DL services like XBLA, PSN and VC.

You need to look harder. The games are there.

The biggest problem this gen is narrowminded gamers. They complain about issues that really don't exist in an attempt to seem intelligent. There is so much variety amongs all of the different platforms, includidng the handhelds and DL services like XBLA, PSN and VC.

You need to look harder. The games are there.

heretrix

[QUOTE="vashkey"] Then theres the rubish casual that only appeal to people who don't care so much about quality of the game... Games based off of television shows or mini game collections like Carnical games or somthing.SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="vashkey"] Then theres the rubish casual that only appeal to people who don't care so much about quality of the game... Games based off of television shows or mini game collections like Carnical games or somthing.vashkey

The biggest problem this gen is narrowminded gamers. They complain about issues that really don't exist in an attempt to seem intelligent. There is so much variety amongs all of the different platforms, includidng the handhelds and DL services like XBLA, PSN and VC.

You need to look harder. The games are there.

heretrix

I know it's a trend, just as last gen platformers and, to a lesser extent, JRPGs, were a trend, and that it will probably fade, as the enormous rise of online gaming and shooters are certainly correlated, but just look at some of those numbers. Valkyria Chronicles sold what, 33k? Whereas we have games like Gears of War selling 5+ million, and Halo at nearly 10 million? I think the problem for quite a few people is that the variety is there, as I can attest to in my game collection, but the choice isn't exactly vast. If I wanted to pick up a shooter this generation, I have a decent choice of many 9.0+ shooters to choose from (CoD4, Halo 3, Gears 1/2, Resistance 2) and not an enormous amount of other stuff. Moreso than shooters I blame high development costs and an overemphasis on online gaming, but as they say: "this too shall pass."

How the hell are Gears of War and CoD casual games ?do you even know what you're talking about ?

I doubt any non-gamer can just pick it up and start playing naturally.

for the record, warioware is awesome..

and don't ask me how many times i've seen some dude with a dusty xbox with nothing but sports, racing, gta and halo as their entire dusty collection

i've weeped every time i've seen this library of games.. it's usually somebody in their 30s

no doubt in my mind you can be a casual gamer and play things like gears

i also know gamers who are the opposite of casual, they play almost everything and often.. but yet they still can't use dual analog.. strange

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]We're all casual. /threadAgentA-Mi6

Prove it.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

The biggest problem this gen is narrowminded gamers. They complain about issues that really don't exist in an attempt to seem intelligent. There is so much variety amongs all of the different platforms, includidng the handhelds and DL services like XBLA, PSN and VC.

You need to look harder. The games are there.

Nirron

I know it's a trend, just as last gen platformers and, to a lesser extent, JRPGs, were a trend, and that it will probably fade, as the enormous rise of online gaming and shooters are certainly correlated, but just look at some of those numbers. Valkyria Chronicles sold what, 33k? Whereas we have games like Gears of War selling 5+ million, and Halo at nearly 10 million? I think the problem for quite a few people is that the variety is there, as I can attest to in my game collection, but the choice isn't exactly vast. If I wanted to pick up a shooter this generation, I have a decent choice of many 9.0+ shooters to choose from (CoD4, Halo 3, Gears 1/2, Resistance 2) and not an enormous amount of other stuff. Moreso than shooters I blame high development costs and an overemphasis on online gaming, but as they say: "this too shall pass."

So you define a person's gaming tastes as being a "hardcore" gamer? What about a person who enjoys his/her JRPGs a few hours ever week? Are they hardcore? Or more hardcore than the guy who play competitive Halo 3 or Gears for 30+ hours a week?

Exactly how do you define "hardcore"?

I personally consider myself a "hardcore" gamer not just because I play very deep games, but I play them often.

Yeah..no

It's hilarious how you nostalgic you nerds are. Everything in the past is always ZOMG AMAZING and everything now is garbage. It's like that with games, music, movies, hell any form of entertainment.

Shooter fans such as myself didn't ruin gaming, you and your greedy devs did, get it right. We didn't go to these developer studios and point a gun at their heads and say develop a shooter or you die. We aren't the ones complaining about every little f***** detail. OMG THOSE TEXTURES ARE HORRIBLE! GAME AM FAIL CONFIRMED!

Last gen, you "gamers" were okay with good games. Now, it has to be perfection, if it's not, you don't buy it.

Consoles are Casual.

/thread

Of course. Being a fan of a genre clearly makes you a casual. I mean look at all those people who only play RPGs. They are so "casual".Skittles_McGee

Yeah..no It's hilarious how you nostalgic you nerds are. MrInkredible

It is not the game that is casual, it is the manner in which it is played.

Yeah..no

It's hilarious how you nostalgic you nerds are. Everything in the past is always ZOMG AMAZING and everything now is garbage. It's like that with games, music, movies, hell any form of entertainment.

Shooter fans such as myself didn't ruin gaming, you and your greedy devs did, get it right. We didn't go to these developer studios and point a gun at their heads and say develop a shooter or you die. We aren't the ones complaining about every little f***** detail. OMG THOSE TEXTURES ARE HORRIBLE! GAME AM FAIL CONFIRMED!

Last gen, you "gamers" were okay with good games. Now, it has to be perfection, if it's not, you don't buy it.

Oh, correct me if I'm wrong but don't you guys always sit on here asking for a multiplayer for each game and if it doesn't it's only a rental? Yeah, keep blaming it on shooter fans, because it's our fault you guys are never satisfied with anything apparently.lMrInkredible