The strongest medicine against PC piracy: MULTIPLAYER

I have yet to see a pirated game being able to play on OFFICIAL mp servers without an identity theft....(and thats literal theft not copyright infigment labeled as "stealing" by the uneducated masses)

Its a sad reality that single player games pale in sales compared to mp games....but thats the harsh truth...

Look at what Blizzard said about DRM and SC2/Diablo3...they dont need it...they dont care about it because they know that for people to get the FUN out of their games they HAVE to buy them original....

Thus PC publishers (the developers are mere emploees) should focus on the MP experience and thus save loads of cash on DRM exclusion....

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

Believe me, piracy isn't just a PC issue, its becomming REALLY bad on consoles now over the past couple of weeks.-Unreal-

No matter how many times this is said on this forum it won't make it true.

Just because people are reporting about it more in this forum doesn't make it worse than it has always been.

The PS2 was hacked, as was the XBox. Every single original XBox game was leaked and could be stored on and played off of the XBox's HD.

Halo 2 was leaked a month early. No pirated 360 game has yet to reach the DL numbers that Halo 2 was hitting when it leaked.

Console piracy has just never had the numbers that PC piracy has, it still doesn't. It simply does not impact sales in the same way PC piracy does, it is not as widespread.

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

Sony-tha-champ0

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

EuroMafia

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]Believe me, piracy isn't just a PC issue, its becomming REALLY bad on consoles now over the past couple of weeks.RuprechtMonkey

No matter how many times this is said on this forum it won't make it true.

Just because people are reporting about it more in this forum doesn't make it worse than it has always been.

The PS2 was hacked, as was the XBox. Every single original XBox game was leaked and could be stored on and played off of the XBox's HD.

Halo 2 was leaked a month early. No pirated 360 game has yet to reach the DL numbers that Halo 2 was hitting when it leaked.

Console piracy has just never had the numbers that PC piracy has, it still doesn't. It simply does not impact sales in the same way PC piracy does, it is not as widespread.

I never said console piracy is matching PC piracy, I said on consoles it's becoming really bad too. Which it is. I guess I shouldn't have added "believe me" since you won't anyway.

I could show you examples but I can't.

It doesn't make any sense to say "Becoming." It really hasn't changed.

Like I said, every single XBox was pirated.

I knew people with modded original XBox's and 160gb HD's on them and literally 80 or more pirated XBox games saved to those HD's.

The same thing will happen that happened with the original XBox. Microsoft will release a system update and ban quite a few people with modded XBox's (from Live.) Then, they'll be a way around it and more people will get modded XBox's, and it'll happen again. The same thing happened with the original XBox.

Believe me, piracy isn't just a PC issue, its becomming REALLY bad on consoles now over the past couple of weeks. Trust me. I've been reporting a crap load of stuff to Ubisoft, Lionhead, Bethsoft and (lol) Epicfail.-Unreal-

Arent you just the saint..I think im gonna puke

The same week CoD 4 was released there where hundreads of pirated servers up.. Same can be said about Unreal Tournament and similar games..

For a game such as SC2 there will probably be support from that GG-client which currently hosts servers that are used by tens of thuosands of WC3 players, ofcourse without asking for a cd-key. (This program isn't primarily used for pirating purposes but for easily hosting LAN games over the internet)

Pirating is a problem with or without multiplayer..

Pirating is a problem with or without multiplayer..

omgimba

Also, who wants to completely give up single player experiences?

Some of my fondest memories with PC gaming have been single player experiences.

I would hardly want every PC game to be like WOW.

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

Sony-tha-champ0

Early games were pirated and available at torrent sites, but the lack of a proper CFW to make them work and the lack of sales at the time resulted in what we have now, which is a non pirated console. But BD is not pirate proof.

The same week CoD 4 was released there where hundreads of pirated servers up.. Same can be said about Unreal Tournament and similar games..

For a game such as SC2 there will probably be support from that GG-client which currently hosts servers that are used by tens of thuosands of WC3 players, ofcourse without asking for a cd-key. (This program isn't primarily used for pirating purposes but for easily hosting LAN games over the internet)

Pirating is a problem with or without multiplayer..

omgimba

It depends on the complexity and badwith demand of the mp code...look at wow...most private servers cannot take more than 100 people...in comparison the lineage2 mmo has a very light client and its private servers can take up to 4k people...

Thats why WoW is booming the private server sector is worst than crap...

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

kenshinhimura10

Early games were pirated and available at torrent sites, but the lack of a proper CFW to make them work and the lack of sales at the time resulted in what we have now, which is a non pirated console. But BD is not pirate proof.

Its a huge victory for sony to make a pirate proof console...

[QUOTE="kenshinhimura10"]

Early games were pirated and available at torrent sites, but the lack of a proper CFW to make them work and the lack of sales at the time resulted in what we have now, which is a non pirated console. But BD is not pirate proof.

True_Gamer_

Its a huge victory for sony to make a pirate proof console...

Considering the curent situation of the PSP? Yes, it was a big thing for them. I wonder how popular some franchises would be without piracy.

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Pirating is a problem with or without multiplayer..

RuprechtMonkey

Also, who wants to completely give up single player experiences?

Some of my fondest memories with PC gaming have been single player experiences.

I would hardly want every PC game to be like WOW.

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

Sony-tha-champ0

well, the PS3 is the only console that hasnt be properly pirated

plus who can download 40GB game :?

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

12345yon

well, the PS3 is the only console that hasnt be properly pirated

plus who can download 40GB game :?

PS3 is a fortress of anti piracy... and its a testament of locking down a system properly done...

I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.Saturos3091

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

Sony-tha-champ0

Im sure their is a way around it, I doubt its that hard, but are you really gonna spend all that money on a Writable Blu ray drive and Blu ray discs...might as well by the game....

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

EuroMafia

Please don't talk about something you are totally biased against and have no clue on

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.True_Gamer_

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.Saturos3091

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

I have yet to see a pirated game being able to play on OFFICIAL mp servers without an identity theft....(and thats literal theft not copyright infigment labeled as "stealing" by the uneducated masses)

Its a sad reality that single player games pale in sales compared to mp games....but thats the harsh truth...

Look at what Blizzard said about DRM and SC2/Diablo3...they dont need it...they dont care about it because they know that for people to get the FUN out of their games they HAVE to buy them original....

Thus PC publishers (the developers are mere emploees) should focus on the MP experience and thus save loads of cash on DRM exclusion....

True_Gamer_

It dosen't have to be on "official servers" :roll:

Pirates can make a "Crack" server and play on those.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

I have yet to see a pirated game being able to play on OFFICIAL mp servers without an identity theft....(and thats literal theft not copyright infigment labeled as "stealing" by the uneducated masses)

Its a sad reality that single player games pale in sales compared to mp games....but thats the harsh truth...

Look at what Blizzard said about DRM and SC2/Diablo3...they dont need it...they dont care about it because they know that for people to get the FUN out of their games they HAVE to buy them original....

Thus PC publishers (the developers are mere emploees) should focus on the MP experience and thus save loads of cash on DRM exclusion....

JangoWuzHere

It dosen't have to be on "official servers" :roll:

Pirates can make a "Crack" server and play on those.

Thats why WoW private servers cannot bare more than a handful of people?

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

I have yet to see a pirated game being able to play on OFFICIAL mp servers without an identity theft....(and thats literal theft not copyright infigment labeled as "stealing" by the uneducated masses)

Its a sad reality that single player games pale in sales compared to mp games....but thats the harsh truth...

Look at what Blizzard said about DRM and SC2/Diablo3...they dont need it...they dont care about it because they know that for people to get the FUN out of their games they HAVE to buy them original....

Thus PC publishers (the developers are mere emploees) should focus on the MP experience and thus save loads of cash on DRM exclusion....

JangoWuzHere

It dosen't have to be on "official servers" :roll:

Pirates can make a "Crack" server and play on those.

By playing on cracked servers, you give up the perks given to you from the devs, such as cheat protection, official ladders, game support and more. There is a reason why crack servers of most, if not all, PC game are empty as hell.

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

All_that_is_Man

Please don't talk about something you are totally biased against and have no clue on

You're going to follow that yourself?

People just won't buy writable bluray drives and bluray discs to do such things...There are torrents for some PS3 games though.

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

sargentbotk

Please don't talk about something you are totally biased against and have no clue on

You're going to follow that yourself?

People just won't buy writable bluray drives and bluray discs to do such things...There are torrents for some PS3 games though.

read my post above it, Writable bluray drives and bluray discs being expensive is the only reason its not wide spread

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.True_Gamer_

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

All_that_is_Man

Please don't talk about something you are totally biased against and have no clue on

You're going to follow that yourself?

People just won't buy writable bluray drives and bluray discs to do such things...There are torrents for some PS3 games though.

read my post above it, Writable bluray drives and bluray discs being expensive is the only reason its not wide spread

He said no. Technically, he's right.

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

All_that_is_Man

Please don't talk about something you are totally biased against and have no clue on

You're going to follow that yourself?

People just won't buy writable bluray drives and bluray discs to do such things...There are torrents for some PS3 games though.

read my post above it, Writable bluray drives and bluray discs being expensive is the only reason its not wide spread

It must be nice in your fantasy land....where there is a non imaginative PS3 that can play copied BR games...

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]

Im sure gladBlu-ray prevents piracy

...does it really prevent it ?

12345yon

well, the PS3 is the only console that hasnt be properly pirated

plus who can download 40GB game :?

who is gona pay $200 for a blu ray writter and $20 per disk (once disk get a burn error argg)

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.True_Gamer_

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

valve has just about soved the problem for now

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.imprezawrx500

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

valve has just about soved the problem for now

NBA2k9 PC a STEAM fully backed by Valve so called "protection" has been cracked on DAY 1....The pirates just use a custom installer....So Valve is still weak....its the MP games of STEAM that are protected...and only because they are MP...

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.True_Gamer_

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

valve has just about soved the problem for now

NBA2k9 PC a STEAM fully backed by Valve so called "protection" has been cracked on DAY 1....The pirates just use a custom installer....So Valve is still weak....its the MP games of STEAM that are protected...and only because they are MP...

all proper steam games work with steam the same way, multiplayer games activate with steam the same way single player does, i think valve is the only company that makes proper steam games

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.markop2003

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

valve has just about soved the problem for now

NBA2k9 PC a STEAM fully backed by Valve so called "protection" has been cracked on DAY 1....The pirates just use a custom installer....So Valve is still weak....its the MP games of STEAM that are protected...and only because they are MP...

all proper steam games work with steam the same way, multiplayer games activate with steam the same way single player does, i think valve is the only company that makes proper steam games

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]I wouldn't mind for some multiplayer features in some games, however if it takes away from the SP portion then they can forget about me purchasing their games whatsoever.markop2003

" I dont care about multiplayer features in games, however if they take away the SP portion then they can forget about me downloading their games whatsoever."

SP games are a pirate's heaven...

Sadly SP games have NO way resisting piracy...even the intrusive DRM rootkits have the opposite effect....MP is the only finansially viable form of buisiness....or the tamement of the net through harsh policing...

valve has just about soved the problem for now

NBA2k9 PC a STEAM fully backed by Valve so called "protection" has been cracked on DAY 1....The pirates just use a custom installer....So Valve is still weak....its the MP games of STEAM that are protected...and only because they are MP...

all proper steam games work with steam the same way, multiplayer games activate with steam the same way single player does, i think valve is the only company that makes proper steam games

All valve games have been cracked and circulate the warez network....its the MP thats VERY HARD to play...the SP is powerless...

all proper steam games work with steam the same way, multiplayer games activate with steam the same way single player does, i think valve is the only company that makes proper steam gamesmarkop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"]all proper steam games work with steam the same way, multiplayer games activate with steam the same way single player does, i think valve is the only company that makes proper steam gamesMakari

And still despite all this hype around STEAM and its piracy stopping "magic" is just plain fairy tales....ITS THE ONLINE multiplayer that stops piracy...nothing else...

But again, why would you want to sacrifice the single player aspect of PC gaming? I wouldn't.

But again, why would you want to sacrifice the single player aspect of PC gaming? I wouldn't.

RuprechtMonkey

Thats the future thats most probable...

It must be nice in your fantasy land....where there is a non imaginative PS3 that can play copied BR games... True_Gamer_