The Ultimate Exclusive Battle. Metacritic 360 vs PS3 85+.

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#1 Eddie-Vedder
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At the last E3 a MS exec quoted Metacritic using games with a rating of 85 and up, called it "the watermark for industry leading games", imo that's a pretty damn good way to look at things so I'll be doing the same thing. Couple of things to keep in mind, the PS3 released one full year later(One Year and a half World Wide), I'm not counting arcade titles start your own thread if you like, and I've left out controversial "exclusives" like MLB 09, Ninja Gaiden Sigma etc.

These are the best fully retail games available exclusively for these 2 platforms, the main reasons to own them, no sketchiness, no tricks, no lies. (I might have missed something, will edit if that's the case don't freak out)

Xbox 360

Halo 3 2007 - 94

Gears of War 2 2008 - 93

Forza Motorsport 3 2009 - 92

Forza Motorsport 2 2007 - 90

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2006 - 90

Fable II 2008 - 89

Project Gotham Racing 3 2005 - 88

Project Gotham Racing 4 2007 - 85

Dead or Alive 4 2005 - 85

Total: 9

Note: 6 games are from 2007 and before. There are 7 total different IP's listed.

Playstation 3

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 2009 - 96

LittleBigPlanet 2008 - 95

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 2008 - 94

God of War III 2010 - 94

Killzone 2 2009 - 91

MLB 10: The Show 2010 - 91

Demon's Souls 2009 - 89

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 2007 - 89

Heavy Rain 2010 - 88

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 2007 - 88

Resistance 2 2008 - 87

Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time 2009 - 87

Valkyria Chronicles 2008 - 86

Resistance: Fall of Man 2006 - 86

inFAMOUS 2009 - 85

Total: 15

Note: 3 games from 2007 and before. There are 12 total different Ip's listed.

What do YOU take from this?

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#2 funsohng
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Valkyria Chronicles should be in 90s
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#3 skinny_man_69
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What do I take from this? That Killzone 2 is over-rated :P

In all honesty I think it is pretty obvious what you were tring to prove. Unfortunately, Metacritic /= Gamespot and Gamespot = SW

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These are the best fully retail games available exclusivly for these 2 platforms, the main reasons to own them,

What do YOU take from this?

Eddie-Vedder

That other people's opinion's are pretty overrated and that if you need Metacritic scores to justify that you made a good choice in picking a console, you are everything that is wrong with the industry today.

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#5 RadecSupreme
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What do I take from this? That Killzone 2 is over-rated :P

In all honesty I think it is pretty obvious what you were tring to prove. Unfortunately, Metacritic /= Gamespot and Gamespot = SW

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#6 Silverbond
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Metacritic? Really? We are on Gamespot and any "Ultimate Exclusive Battle" should use GS scores.

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#7 SolidTy
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I can give you teh company line, on GS we use GS scores. :P

However, it's your thread, so if you are clear about the point you are making, you can do it how you want. Just create your own rules within this thread, and stick to it! :)

So, in this particular thread, no PSN or XBLA games? I can deal with that.

I will have to look over your work...What about PC/360 multiplats like the ME and L4D series?


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#8 Rippou
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

These are the best fully retail games available exclusivly for these 2 platforms, the main reasons to own them,

What do YOU take from this?

heretrix

That other people's opinion's are pretty overrated and that if you need Metacritic scores to justify that you made a good choice in picking a console, you are everything that is wrong with the industry today.

What? How over-dramatic. :| Metacritic may be far from perfect but I'd hardly call anyone who includes their scores in purchasing a console "everything that is wrong with the industry today". Nothing is "wrong" with the industry.
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It's untrue that those exclusives are the main reason to own one of those consoles.

IRL a gamer deciding between the 360 and PS3 would add...

Mass Effect - 91

Mass Effect 2 - 98

Gears of War - 94

Left 4 Dead - 89

Left 4 Dead 2 - 89

Mass Effect and Gears were also 360 exclusives for months before they were ported to PC.

IRL Mass Effect 2 is reason enough to choose a 360 over a PS3.

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Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

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Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

skinny_man_69

:lol:HAHA you just owned the thread

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#12 Eddie-Vedder
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Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

skinny_man_69
I'll add them.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

These are the best fully retail games available exclusivly for these 2 platforms, the main reasons to own them,

What do YOU take from this?

Rippou

That other people's opinion's are pretty overrated and that if you need Metacritic scores to justify that you made a good choice in picking a console, you are everything that is wrong with the industry today.

What? How over-dramatic. :| Metacritic may be far from perfect but I'd hardly call anyone who includes their scores in purchasing a console "everything that is wrong with the industry today". Nothing is "wrong" with the industry.

Sure, you''re right. God forbid you have any personal taste of your own. And there is plenty wrong with the video game industry, it's cool if you want to act like everything is rosy and obsessions with review scores isn't a bad thing.

It's great when the total essence of a game has to be boiled down to a number so that people can see some weird value in it..

I don't have a problem with REVIEWS, I have a problem with reviews with numerical scores. We have tons of idiots on the internet crying about 9.3 reviews as if some terrible miscarriage of justice has occured because a game they liked scored .02 lower than a game that they didn't like.

Yeah, everything's great.

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#15 skinny_man_69
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[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

Eddie-Vedder
I'll add them.

Oh ok no worries. I just thought that maybe they went against something in the OP :)
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What do YOU take from this?

Eddie-Vedder

that you're missing PGR 3 and 4 and DOA 4

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It's untrue that those exclusives are the main reason to own one of those consoles.

IRL a gamer deciding between the 360 and PS3 would add...

Mass Effect - 91

Mass Effect 2 - 98

Gears of War - 94

Left 4 Dead - 89

Left 4 Dead 2 - 89

Mass Effect and Gears were also 360 exclusives for months before they were ported to PC.

IRL Mass Effect 2 is reason enough to choose a 360 over a PS3.

gamecubepad

PS3 list is still bigger even with those added...and why would someoneconsider L4D1 if they can get 2?

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Why 85+? I thought that AAA is the only thing that was important in SW, seeing how many PS3 Vs 360 AAA threads I have seen.......

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Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

skinny_man_69
Bu-bu-but Dead Rising is on the Wii.
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#20 skinny_man_69
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[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

Nerd_Man
Bu-bu-but Dead Rising is on the Wii.

Lol oh yeah that's right. That crappy "Chop till you Drop" thing :P
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#21 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

Also, any particular reason you left out Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Dead or Alive 4 and Dead Rising?

skinny_man_69
I'll add them.

Oh ok no worries. I just thought that maybe they went against something in the OP :)

ya it was just I didn't even remember those games, they aren't talked about much. Btw I didn't add Dead Rising cause I consider it to be one of the controversial exclusives cause of the Wii version.
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PS3 list is still bigger even with those added...and why would someoneconsider L4D1 if they can get 2?

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Is it really?

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Why 85+? I thought that AAA is the only thing that was important in SW, seeing how many PS3 Vs 360 AAA threads I have seen.......

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I thought because Microsoft and I think Sony used this system it would be more "official".
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#24 visionary
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Is there a particular reason why you chose 85 as opposed to the standard 80% for AA+? maybe I've been gone too long but have the scoring standards differentiated? o_O

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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Why 85+? I thought that AAA is the only thing that was important in SW, seeing how many PS3 Vs 360 AAA threads I have seen.......

Eddie-Vedder

I thought because Microsoft and I think Sony used this system it would be more "official".

You thought wrong. The only offical scores here are GS scores.

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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Why 85+? I thought that AAA is the only thing that was important in SW, seeing how many PS3 Vs 360 AAA threads I have seen.......

Eddie-Vedder

I thought because Microsoft and I think Sony used this system it would be more "official".

Okay. That's fine then. The PS3 has had a lot of new IP's, and sequels to, on their list haven't they??

UC1

UC2

R:FoM

R2

iNFAMOUS

Killzone 2

Not saying they don't count, just an observation.

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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Why 85+? I thought that AAA is the only thing that was important in SW, seeing how many PS3 Vs 360 AAA threads I have seen.......

siddhu33

I thought because Microsoft and I think Sony used this system it would be more "official".

Okay. That's fine then. The PS3 has had a lot of new IP's, and sequels to, on their list haven't they??

UC1

UC2

R:FoM

R2

iNFAMOUS

Killzone 2

Not saying they don't count, just an observation.

Just added a note talking about release dates and the number of diferent IP's on each list. I think it's good observation to take into account.
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#29 Nike_Air
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I take that the ps3 has more exclusive killer-apps. And the 360's list makesme feel like I'm looking at an original XBOX for the most part. Where's the plethora of new IPs? This is likely the biggest reason that momentum has shifted over to the ps3. The 360 list just doesn't look all that exciting.

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#30 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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If it's PS3 vs 360, Mass Effect, L4D, L4D2, GeoW, EoLC (rated separately as BoGT and TL&D)and MLB09 should be there.

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#31 MC3887
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I take that the ps3 has more exclusive killer-apps. But you forgot DOA 4 , PGR 3 , PGR4.

Nike_Air

Killer apps to me are games that are extremely well known, and also very good(for the most part)

EX: Halo, GEOW, GT5, MGS4. While KZ2, FM3, R1/2, UC1/2, etc are not killer apps.

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Since TC is using metacritic, its important to mension that 360 has 133 A+ games over PS3 there. Go check :P

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[QUOTE="Rippou"][QUOTE="heretrix"]That other people's opinion's are pretty overrated and that if you need Metacritic scores to justify that you made a good choice in picking a console, you are everything that is wrong with the industry today.

heretrix

What? How over-dramatic. :| Metacritic may be far from perfect but I'd hardly call anyone who includes their scores in purchasing a console "everything that is wrong with the industry today". Nothing is "wrong" with the industry.

Sure, you''re right. God forbid you have any personal taste of your own. And there is plenty wrong with the video game industry, it's cool if you want to act like everything is rosy and obsessions with review scores isn't a bad thing.

It's great when the total essence of a game has to be boiled down to a number so that people can see some weird value in it..

I don't have a problem with REVIEWS, I have a problem with reviews with numerical scores. We have tons of idiots on the internet crying about 9.3 reviews as if some terrible miscarriage of justice has occured because a game they liked scored .02 lower than a game that they didn't like.

Yeah, everything's great.

Your use of sarcasm doesn't make the fact that the industry is strong, any less true. I always find it funny when people act like the industry is facing some kind of horrible fate if we use certain WEBSITES for first opinions on a game, or if we don't purchase a certain hardcore title, we're "doing it wrong". If it makes you feel better at all, game companies aren't as pathetic as the people who obsess over scores, and those people are in such a minority they might as well not even matter. The industry will live on, and it doesn't need you defending it. Reviews will remain, games will still sell despite these reviews, c'est la vie. We've come a long way since 1983.
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You explicitly made this a 360 vs PS3 battle so why again are PC/360 games not listed since they Can't be played on a PS3 ?

With that in mind.... 360 > PS3 !!! :P

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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

PS3 list is still bigger even with those added...and why would someoneconsider L4D1 if they can get 2?

gamecubepad

Is it really?

Well it was. He has added games since i was last on.

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What do YOU take from this?

Eddie-Vedder

Killzone 2 is not the Halo killer cows hyped it to be.

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You explicitly made this a 360 vs PS3 battle so why again are PC/360 games not listed since they Can't be played on a PS3 ?

With that in mind.... 360 > PS3 !!! :P

SecretPolice

So your saying we can count MLB 09 the show plus GOW1 and 2?

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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

What do YOU take from this?

93soccer

Killzone 2 is not the Halo killer cows hyped it to be.

Cows never hyped Killzone 2 as a halo killers as lemmings said it to be.

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What do YOU take from this?

Eddie-Vedder


That opinions of other people are meaningless to me.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

You explicitly made this a 360 vs PS3 battle so why again are PC/360 games not listed since they Can't be played on a PS3 ?

With that in mind.... 360 > PS3 !!! :P

RadecSupreme

So your saying we can count MLB 09 the show plus GOW1 and 2?

You can count MLB. But not GOW 1 & 2, as they are a reskinned version of PS2 games....

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What do YOU take from this?Eddie-Vedder
That you want to make babies with Sony?

In all seriousness, I'm confused to why the cutoff was at 85 instead of flatly just including all AAE/AAAE games.

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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

You explicitly made this a 360 vs PS3 battle so why again are PC/360 games not listed since they Can't be played on a PS3 ?

With that in mind.... 360 > PS3 !!! :P

siddhu33

So your saying we can count MLB 09 the show plus GOW1 and 2?

You can count MLB. But not GOW 1 & 2, as they are a reskinned version of PS2 games....

No, they were remakes and they do count as multiplats that can not be played on the 360.

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No, they were remakes and they do count as multiplats that can not be played on the 360.RadecSupreme
They are HD ports, not really remakes.
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You can count MLB. But not GOW 1 & 2, as they are a reskinned version of PS2 games....

siddhu33


If MLB counts... then so does God of War.

An "exclusive" game is one available on a single platform. Any game that is available on more than one platform, regardless of who controls the platform, or who made the game, is multiplatform.

A game has to be significantly different to not be considered a direct port. i.e. Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. Better graphics and an improved online structure isn't "different." If this were true, then the God of War collection would be exclusive too.

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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

You can count MLB. But not GOW 1 & 2, as they are a reskinned version of PS2 games....

foxhound_fox


If MLB counts... then so does God of War.

An "exclusive" game is one available on a single platform. Any game that is available on more than one platform, regardless of who controls the platform, or who made the game, is multiplatform.

A game has to be significantly different to not be considered a direct port. i.e. Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. Better graphics and an improved online structure isn't "different." If this were true, then the God of War collection would be exclusive too.

Is that all that is different? I thought that the MLB 09 for PS3 was much better! I think that some cow has pulled wool over my eyes!

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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]No, they were remakes and they do count as multiplats that can not be played on the 360.IronBass
They are HD ports, not really remakes.

Alright,never the less its a multiplatform. Therefore it counts

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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

You explicitly made this a 360 vs PS3 battle so why again are PC/360 games not listed since they Can't be played on a PS3 ?

With that in mind.... 360 > PS3 !!! :P

siddhu33

So your saying we can count MLB 09 the show plus GOW1 and 2?

You can count MLB. But not GOW 1 & 2, as they are a reskinned version of PS2 games....

Lol why does that make a difference? Its a multiplat game. You can say the 360 version of PC games is just reskinned onto the xbox.

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Is that all that is different? I thought that the MLB 09 for PS3 was much better! I think that some cow has pulled wool over my eyes!

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That is your opinion. It doesn't stop the same basic game from being available on the PS3, PS2 and PSP. I could understand if you were talking about GRAW, and a perspective change in a shooter... but this is a sports game. It doesn't get much different between iterations, let alone versions.

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Alright,never the less its a multiplatform. Therefore it countsRadecSupreme
Yeah, I see where are you coming from. But no. They are still GoW and GoWII. It's like counting Zelda TP and Okami on the Wii. Makes little sense.
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#50 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

So your saying we can count MLB 09 the show plus GOW1 and 2?

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You can count MLB. But not GOW 1 & 2, as they are a reskinned version of PS2 games....

No, they were remakes and they do count as multiplats that can not be played on the 360.

Sure, list all PS3/PC and PS3 lite lol games but really, with Mass Effect 2 hitting the street next week; just with that biggie right there.....

Mass Effect 2 Screenshot

PC/360 games head shots the PS3. :P