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Story: The player controls a knight named Rohn, who belongs to a secret society known as "The Burners", all of whom fly dragons in combat. The story takes place on a continent inhabited by two main groups; the Asylians and the Mokai, with the player's knight belonging to the former. The world of Lair is suffering a global warming effect due to volcanic activity, and the Mokai, whose lands are arid and people desperate, attempt to steal from the Asylians, whose own lands are some of the few remaining fertile areas. The game begins with a sudden assault by the Mokai on the Asylian city, and the Burners mount their dragons to defend.

Technology:

Lair supports native full HD 1080p graphics and 7.1 uncompressed audio and also takes advantage of the following technologies:

-Progressive Mesh is a technique rendered by the Cell microprocessor, which allows for an intensive amount of detail to be placed upon vast number of objects, both up-close and far away.

-High-Dynamic Range Lighting: All of the lights, shadows, reflections, and highlights in Lair are in HDR, and are rendered in real-time by the Cell and RSX, thus allowing the lighting scheme to completely change, just like the time of day does in-game, however, due to the advanced programming of the lighting system, it will be ever-changing, and rarely, if ever the same twice.

-Real-time Dynamic Physics: Every second of gameplay, Lair renders hundreds of physics effects on everything from your dragon, down to the cloak on an enemy soldier. All enemies and allies have their own physics-driven animations, and have individually programmed ragdolls.

-Real-time Fluid Dynamics: All of the water effects in Lair, such as waves, are run by real-time fluid dynamics on the Cell.

-Parallax Shaders: Parallax shaders are used on almost every object in Lair, including fire and clouds.

-Real-Time Renderings/Volumetric Effects: The fire in Lair is rendered in real-time, and has its own physics. All of the clouds, smoke, and fog effects are volumetric. Lava, rain, wind, fur, and more are also rendered in real-time.

Controls:

Lair's design is heavily based on the features of the PS3 controller. Control of flight and several other abilities exclusively uses the motion-sensing capabilities of the SIXAXIS controller.

-To flap the dragon's wings (allowing you to fly faster), simply press the X button.

-You can also extend the dragon's wings (slowing you down).

-To get a quick boost of speed, you can press the circle button.

-To lock-on to enemy dragons and turrets, hold down the L1 and L2 buttons until the lock-on reticule turns red.

-The face buttons are used for various long-range attacks such as firebreathing and fireballs.

-If you are close enough to a dragon which you are locked-on, you can start to attack them physically.

-Controlling both the movement and physical attacks of the dragon is done via the motion-sensing.

-By tilting in a certain direction, the dragon will fly in that corresponding direction.

-You can perform dives, sideswipes, etc. with the motion-sensing.

-If you pull back very quickly, your dragon does a 180 degree turn.

-When doing physical attacks in the air, you can aggressively move the controller into the direction of the enemy dragon, and slam into it.

-Occasionally your dragons will grapple, and you can press a random combination of the face buttons to claw, slash, and even bite the other dragon.

-Also, you will occasionally have the chance to jump off of your dragon, and land on an enemy's, where you can kill either them or their dragon, or even both. This is also executed via the face buttons.

-On the ground, motion-sensing is also used for steering.

-If you slam down the controller, you can cause your dragon to slam his feet down, causing shockwaves on the ground, which damage enemies.

-Also, if you move it back and forth, you can slash at enemies, and even eat some of them to regenerate your health.

-Fire-breathing is controlled via a face button, and you can aim the fire with the motion-sensing

Levels:

They now have levels with 10 000 soldiers in them.
- Levels (all outdoors) vary from Wastelands to Jungles to Icefields.
- Levels may take 4GB of storage space each (obviously streaming as you go along)
- The game won't have multiplayer but will have online leaderboards and achievements as well as other community stuff.
- The game will support downloadable content, what the fans ask for they will get. Specifically mentions dragon breeding minigame as an example in this regard

Will this game be on 2 blu-ray 50 gb discs? HOly S*&(

Sound:Lair will have John Debney as the composer. His works include: Carpool, Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, The Scorpion King,The Passion Of The Christ. The Hot Chick, and Elf.

Screenshots are shown below

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#2 nextgengaming18
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TGS Pics:





New Pics:

 

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#3 re-tart356
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first ofall you dont make official threads

and second of all why make a hype thread for this garbage

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#4 ChevelleFan
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Why would you hype a game that sucks?
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Even More pics:






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#6 SemiMaster
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Drakengard anyone?  History tends to do something... what was that? Repeat itself maybe?

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#7 toxicmog
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i want to play it ¬_¬ btw is this a first party game again? :S As any game not coming first party or not published by Sony seems to not 'use' the cell correctly. Just wondering
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#10 nextgengaming18
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[QUOTE="toxicmog"]i want to play it ¬_¬ btw is this a first party game again? :S As any game not coming first party or not published by Sony seems to not 'use' the cell correctly. Just wondering

This is published by sony.
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#11 nextgengaming18
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Why would you hype a game that sucks?ChevelleFan
What makes this game suck? in any way? All I have see is amazing textures, amazing composer, amazing gameplay(if they get all those features down correctly), amazing character design, amazing amount of characters on the screen (10,000 person battle scene). Please tell me why this game would suck?
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#12 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?nextgengaming18
What makes this game suck? in any way? All I have see is amazing textures, amazing composer, amazing gameplay(if they get all those features down correctly), amazing character design, amazing amount of characters on the screen (10,000 person battle scene). Please tell me why this game would suck?

Because it looks less impressive than Gears of War, Oblivion, or even Resistance right now graphically. And how do you know how it plays? Remember last dragon riding game for the PS2, and I'm not talking about Eragon? That scored 7.0 in both of them, Drakengard 1 and 2.

Also, no one but you, the thread creator, seems to be hyping or defending this game in any way. 

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#13 ironcreed
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Indeed....someone with good taste, lol. One of the main reasons I wanted a PS3 (amongst many others;) ) I still predict, and remain firm on this game getting high AA (8.6-8.7), with the definite possibility of getting higher.
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#14 nextgengaming18
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Drakengard anyone?  History tends to do something... what was that? Repeat itself maybe?

SemiMaster
How is this game any similar to drakengard besides you are on a dragon. I guess that means halo would sukc http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/finaldoom/review.html?sid=2558714 History repeasts itself maybe?
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[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?SemiMaster

What makes this game suck? in any way? All I have see is amazing textures, amazing composer, amazing gameplay(if they get all those features down correctly), amazing character design, amazing amount of characters on the screen (10,000 person battle scene). Please tell me why this game would suck?

Because it looks less impressive than Gears of War, Oblivion, or even Resistance right now graphically. And how do you know how it plays? Remember last dragon riding game for the PS2, and I'm not talking about Eragon? That scored 7.0 in both of them, Drakengard 1 and 2.

Also, no one but you, the thread creator, seems to be hyping or defending this game in any way. 

I showed pics. Please show me a better pic from any of those games? RFOm looks terrible compared to this game. Looks absolute garbage.I just want pics :). PAnzer Dragoon was a flying dragon game. It got a 9.0
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i hope the game is decent. i need a reason to buy a PS3 besides killzone.
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#17 kcpp2b
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This game just doesn't interest me at all. Flying the dragon and using the motion sensing sixzxis for it just doesn't seem like something fun IMO. Even if without the motion sensing it would be boring
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#18 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?SemiMaster

What makes this game suck? in any way? All I have see is amazing textures, amazing composer, amazing gameplay(if they get all those features down correctly), amazing character design, amazing amount of characters on the screen (10,000 person battle scene). Please tell me why this game would suck?

Because it looks less impressive than Gears of War, Oblivion, or even Resistance right now graphically. And how do you know how it plays? Remember last dragon riding game for the PS2, and I'm not talking about Eragon? That scored 7.0 in both of them, Drakengard 1 and 2.

Also, no one but you, the thread creator, seems to be hyping or defending this game in any way. 

 

Resistance is a superb game, but if you think that it has better graphics than Lair (which will be running in FULL 1080p), then you are blind as a bat, my friend. You do not have to like the game, but at least be honest, lol.

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This game is Vandarful . Its is a BADA** game right fellas ? right !..

I love it when hopless 360 fanboys comment on this game :D 

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#20 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?nextgengaming18

What makes this game suck? in any way? All I have see is amazing textures, amazing composer, amazing gameplay(if they get all those features down correctly), amazing character design, amazing amount of characters on the screen (10,000 person battle scene). Please tell me why this game would suck?

Because it looks less impressive than Gears of War, Oblivion, or even Resistance right now graphically. And how do you know how it plays? Remember last dragon riding game for the PS2, and I'm not talking about Eragon? That scored 7.0 in both of them, Drakengard 1 and 2.

Also, no one but you, the thread creator, seems to be hyping or defending this game in any way.

I showed pics. Please show me a better pic from any of those games? RFOm looks terrible compared to this game. Looks absolute garbage.I just want pics :).

I'm going to be brutally honest. I don't like the PS3. I've never played either of these games considering one isn't even out either, but from just the graphics alone, I'd rather play Resistance. All I see in the Lair photos is a bunch of copy and paste generic soldiers outside of a big fort and a bunch of pictures of clouds and mountains with ONE dragon. Not very impressive.

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#21 Nike_Air
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Too early for this , but I will guess 8.0 based on what I know about it so far.

 

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#22 silverjiken
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AAAA B) only on PS3
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I say flop. I've been saying it since people were hyping that boring video of dragons flying around...I'm going down with the ship on this one. I've seen Lair from the beginning to it's current form and nothing has made me want to play it..I feel the same way about Heavenly Sword. I have a feeling they are both going to flop here.....

That's just my opinion though.

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This game just doesn't interest me at all. Flying the dragon and using the motion sensing sixzxis for it just doesn't seem like something fun IMO. Even if without the motion sensing it would be boringkcpp2b
That isn't the whole premise of the game. It will also have some sweet on-foot combat. "At this early stage, the air combat is pretty entertaining. Flying around and unleashing jets of fire on other dragons is quite satisfying, as is knocking things over. But that's just one facet to the gameplay. Part of what makes Lair so impressive is the sense of scale. There are plenty of things happening overhead, but the ground battles are an entirely different animal. At any point during play, the dragon can land by pressing Triangle, and at that point the controls change. The dragon will swipe with his claws and feeds on victims by pressing Circle and Triangle respectively, and there are motion sensitive controls as well. The dragon goes into a berserker Rampage mode if the controller is shaken, stomps enemies if it's pushed down, and pounces when it's pulled up. Meanwhile, the hundreds of soldiers retaliate by firing a multitude of arrows at their attacker, most of which remain lodged in the creature after it's taken off. "
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#25 Radeon_X1950XTX
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flop /thread
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#26 nextgengaming18
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AAAA B) only on PS3silverjiken
Why? I don't understand? Most people here are saying that it won't be AAA 1)is a dragon flying game 2) is on ps3. I don't have any other explanation besides thjis. Read about all the information I have gave. That is the reason why I'm hyping it. I don't care who publishes it, but who develops it.
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Considering the developers are the same people who made Star Wars Rogue Squadron then i'll say around the high 8s but I don't think it will be AAA. 
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Sorry TC, no respect has been given for this wonderfully done thread. Looks like a great game. It won't score high because lack of multiplayer, but I have a feeling it will be an amazing experience, especially with the sixaxis (jerk your controller and slam into a near dragon sounds awsome) To call this a flop is retarded.
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#29 Amnesiacx
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Why would you hype a game that sucks?ChevelleFan

 

Oh you've played it? STFU until you know what you're talking about. 

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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]Sorry TC, no respect has been given for this wonderfully done thread. Looks like a great game. It won't score high because lack of multiplayer, but I have a feeling it will be an amazing experience, especially with the sixaxis (jerk your controller and slam into a near dragon sounds awsome) To call this a flop is retarded.

I got attacked for hyping a ps3 game. It is really funny if you ask me..
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It'll probably get AA here regardless of whether it's mediocre or incredible AAA material.
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#32 ninersfan343
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first ofall you dont make official threads

and second of all why make a hype thread for this garbage

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lol your the same guy who said the new naughty dog game looks like crap. i gues your name explains why you think that though.
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Why would you hype a game that sucks?ChevelleFan
jebus!?!?!? jebus is that you!?!?!?! YOU've PLAYED THE GAME AND KNOW IT SUCKS!?!?! Wait a minute....your not jebus, your a dam jealous lemming who can't stand that the PS3 is getting a killer app in half the time it took the 360 to (gears took a year after launch to come out).
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#34 LastSamurai14
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]Sorry TC, no respect has been given for this wonderfully done thread. Looks like a great game. It won't score high because lack of multiplayer, but I have a feeling it will be an amazing experience, especially with the sixaxis (jerk your controller and slam into a near dragon sounds awsome) To call this a flop is retarded.

I'm not attacking you for this by the way. But lots of games don't have multyplayer and get good scores.
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#35 ironcreed
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It'll probably get AA here regardless of whether it's mediocre or incredible AAA material.Lazy_Boy88

 

I completely agree. That is why I predicted high AA @ 8.6-8.7, even though FOR ME, I can tell that it will be a spectacular game, regardless of what the so called "experts" claim. If I based all of my gaming decisions on what the "experts", or everyone else's opinions were, then I would truly have missed out on some GREAT games. Hell, the same can be said for books, movies, and music as well.

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#36 LastSamurai14
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I say flop. I've been saying it since people were hyping that boring video of dragons flying around...I'm going down with the ship on this one. I've seen Lair from the beginning to it's current form and nothing has made me want to play it..I feel the same way about Heavenly Sword. I have a feeling they are both going to flop here.....

That's just my opinion though.

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rofl. That's not your "feeling" you're just a lemming.
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#38 ff7isnumbaone
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Go ahead hype any game u want to TC. as far as I'm concern Mass effect and bio shock are flops!
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#39 Not-A-Stalker
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This game looks great and I can't wait for it... I predict it will get low-mid AA. Though the release date for it is completely unknown...Some sites say May, some say June, some say Q4 of 2007... I think it's too early to make a thread for it.
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#40 nextgengaming18
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Go ahead hype any game u want to TC. as far as I'm concern Mass effect and bio shock are flops!ff7isnumbaone
Super Paper Mario 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, lair, and heavenly sword are my 5 most anticipated games for me during spring 2007
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#41 G-Legend
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[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?SemiMaster

What makes this game suck? in any way? All I have see is amazing textures, amazing composer, amazing gameplay(if they get all those features down correctly), amazing character design, amazing amount of characters on the screen (10,000 person battle scene). Please tell me why this game would suck?

Because it looks less impressive than Gears of War, Oblivion, or even Resistance right now graphically. And how do you know how it plays? Remember last dragon riding game for the PS2, and I'm not talking about Eragon? That scored 7.0 in both of them, Drakengard 1 and 2.

Also, no one but you, the thread creator, seems to be hyping or defending this game in any way. 

I hope you were being sarcastic about the graphics thing because the game looks great, screens sometimes mess up how games look if you don't believe me go to Gears Of War and look at the pics. They look jaggie and we all know the game looks a lot better than those screens.

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#42 Redfingers
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Everything I've read of this game in this thread assures that it will be a superb game, and it looks great. I'm totally into it, the only problem is it's not coming out for another month and a half (perhaps the only problem). I'm confident that the team will get every element of gameplay down pat and it will be great in a lot of ways. There is more than "one" dragon. There is dragon-to-dragon combat and even different types of dragons, some of which have such a scale they are the size of hundreds of the dragon you control in the game. 10,000 soldiers in a single level? You look at this and say "flop?" Multifaceted gameplay that is seamless in every sense and uses motion sensing, and you say "flop?" What, exactly, is flopping about this game? Nothing, that's what. Absolutely nothing, as it is shaping up to be many times better than it was when first unveiled. The only aspect that "flopped" was multiplayer. But, you know what, that's covered. The sequel will have a multiplayer element, and Warhawk, I think, will give me my multiplayer fix. Until you play this game, just get out. I'm tired of these stupid comments. People see a picture and go "ZOMG" or "FLOP!" I'm not even kidding, I would laugh so hard I would cough up a lung if Mass Effect flops. Not saying it will, but still. You people are so damn pompous you need to get a hold of yourselves. That's, apparently, the only way you could possibly ever do it. However, being on the 360 nets you a +1 point average score.
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#43 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I say flop. I've been saying it since people were hyping that boring video of dragons flying around...I'm going down with the ship on this one. I've seen Lair from the beginning to it's current form and nothing has made me want to play it..I feel the same way about Heavenly Sword. I have a feeling they are both going to flop here.....

That's just my opinion though.

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rofl. That's not your "feeling" you're just a lemming.

By saying that you just proved you don't know what the hell your talking about. It's true, I don't have a PS3 yet (Currently no games interest me enough to buy one) but I game on all platforms including the PC and handelds, I've already said it was an opinion not fact.
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#44 Kekira
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Based on what other PS3 games have gotten, I say high AA or low AAA. I'm really looking forward to this, it looks and sounds like it'll be a good game.
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#45 Shadow_op
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#46 wiistation360
Member since 2006 • 4209 Posts
the water looks good
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#47 ironcreed
Member since 2005 • 14195 Posts

For those that want to see how truly impressive this game will look IN GAME running at FULL 1080P, why not try this screen on for size, and then tell us that it "looks horrible", lol. It is IN GAME, folks :

 

http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060908/lair03.jpg

 

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#48 Uzburacuz9
Member since 2007 • 712 Posts

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?Amnesiacx

Oh you've played it? STFU until you know what you're talking about.

bunch of jealous people in here that it aint comin to the 360. stop hating!! the tc deserves to be applauded for this one. good job bro!!
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#49 Silvereign
Member since 2006 • 3006 Posts

Why would you hype a game that sucks?ChevelleFan

 

Envy, ignorance and fanboyism wrapped into one shallow statement. Incredible..:shock:

8.5 - 8.9

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#50 nextgengaming18
Member since 2006 • 2719 Posts

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Why would you hype a game that sucks?Silvereign

Envy, ignorance and fanboyism wrapped into one shallow statement. Incredible..:shock:

8.5 - 8.9

Why is everyone scared of hyping it AAA? Since gamespot gave rfom lower then a 9? This game is worthy of that hype.