The Unreal Engine the best overall engine in videogames?

I am not saying it produces the best visuals. I am saying it has been used to prodcue fantastic games.

Batman AA and Mass Effect 2 are two examples on how good this engine is. What do you think?

The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Didnt ME2 use the Hero Engine?

Im sorry,I dunno nothing about engines.

The jaggies hurt my eyes.AAllxxjjnn

When used well it can make great looking games, although it's obvious that there are other multiplat engines out there that can produce better. It's time they updated to unreal engine 4.0, and postpone making a next gen engine.

One of my favorites, but the texture issues do take out of the experience on occasion.

Didnt ME2 use the Hero Engine?

Im sorry,I dunno nothing about engines.

Regisland

Nope. It uses the Unreal engine.

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It's certainly the most popular engine, it's just a shame most of the games visuals have the same feel to them. You get exceptions like Mirror's Edge and Borderlands, but most of them have a dark plastic feel.

I've also noted that despite it's cross platform orientation; that the engine favours 360. There's hints of this even in the PC versions of games, I've noticed that there is CPU activity on only three cores during play, plus PS3 gamers are well aware of the engines history with them.

I am not saying it produces the best visuals. I am saying it has been used to prodcue fantastic games.

Batman AA and Mass Effect 2 are two examples on how good this engine is. What do you think?

Gamelova79

I think Batman AA looked pretty bad. A lot of bland textures everywhere.

As always, popularity is never on a accurate scale with quality.

It's certainly the most used engine of this gen, which saddens me, a PS3 owner.

Best overall engine in the industry? Don't think so. Wait for Crysis 2 and RAGE before saying that :P

Not in the slightest.

The engine has a very plastic look to everything, overuse of specular lighting, shiny look to everything like rocks and wood. Its very bad and doing real-time dynamic shadows (grainy, jittering)hence most shadows are baked. Complete lack of AA unless its running in DX10/11. Its overused, and often used poorly as well. There are exceptions like Mirror's Edge.

MT Framework from Capcom, Cryengine 2 from Crytek are better.

The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Shad0ki11

Not as expensive if a developer had to develope their own engine of which takes years.

Aside from the aforementioned aliasing issues, I'm deeply impressed with what this engine accomplishes in Mass Effect 2. The PC version maxed out at high resolutions is a thing of beauty to behold, and easily one of the best looking games I've ever played.

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Didnt ME2 use the Hero Engine?

Im sorry,I dunno nothing about engines.

Shad0ki11

Nope. It uses the Unreal engine.

Nevermind,The Old Republic is using it.

It's a good engine, and the only real reason it would be the best overall is because of how flexable it is and how often it is used (if source was used more I would say it is better).

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The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Tangmashi

Not as expensive if a developer had to develope their own engine of which takes years.

The Unreal engine is very expensive to use.

What you're talking about is a custom engine, which of course may or may not be as expensive or less, but it's still not the same as the Unreal engine.

UE3 has been modified for ME2.

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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Shad0ki11

Not as expensive if a developer had to develope their own engine of which takes years.

The Unreal engine is very expensive to use.

What you're talking about is a custom engine, which of course may or may not be as expensive or less, but it's still not the same as the Unreal engine.

Generally the cost is roughly the same to make an engine as it is to licence one. What is saved by licensing one is time.

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Not as expensive if a developer had to develope their own engine of which takes years.

topgunmv

The Unreal engine is very expensive to use.

What you're talking about is a custom engine, which of course may or may not be as expensive or less, but it's still not the same as the Unreal engine.

Generally the cost is roughly the same to make an engine as it is to licence one. What is saved by licensing one is time.

That makes sense.

Its good when companies use it right, which has been very few. The weakness in the engine is that almost every game that uses it gets the same results, so theres a big lack in variety. Even bioshock, which uses the engine well, looks like most other games that come from UE3. I have to say though mass effect, mirrors edge, and batman all use the engine excellently.

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The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Shad0ki11

Not as expensive if a developer had to develope their own engine of which takes years.

The Unreal engine is very expensive to use.

What you're talking about is a custom engine, which of course may or may not be as expensive or less, but it's still not the same as the Unreal engine.

It's certainly the most popular engine, it's just a shame most of the games visuals have the same feel to them. You get exceptions like Mirror's Edge and Borderlands, but most of them have a dark plastic feel.

I've also noted that despite it's cross platform orientation; that the engine favours 360. There's hints of this even in the PC versions of games, I've noticed that there is CPU activity on only three cores during play, plus PS3 gamers are well aware of the engines history with them.

AnnoyedDragon

I guess TC has never heard of the CryEngine 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kvl31g77Z8&feature=sub

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It's certainly the most popular engine, it's just a shame most of the games visuals have the same feel to them. You get exceptions like Mirror's Edge and Borderlands, but most of them have a dark plastic feel.

I've also noted that despite it's cross platform orientation; that the engine favours 360. There's hints of this even in the PC versions of games, I've noticed that there is CPU activity on only three cores during play, plus PS3 gamers are well aware of the engines history with them.

jyoung312

Actually Bioshock 2 is using unreal engine 2 as well (or i guess I should say 2.5 as it's modified for both Bio1 and Bio2)

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The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Not as expensive if a developer had to develope their own engine of which takes years.

The Unreal engine is very expensive to use.

What you're talking about is a custom engine, which of course may or may not be as expensive or less, but it's still not the same as the Unreal engine.

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It's certainly the most popular engine, it's just a shame most of the games visuals have the same feel to them. You get exceptions like Mirror's Edge and Borderlands, but most of them have a dark plastic feel.

I've also noted that despite it's cross platform orientation; that the engine favours 360. There's hints of this even in the PC versions of games, I've noticed that there is CPU activity on only three cores during play, plus PS3 gamers are well aware of the engines history with them.

Midnightshade29

It's certainly the most popular engine, it's just a shame most of the games visuals have the same feel to them. You get exceptions like Mirror's Edge and Borderlands, but most of them have a dark plastic feel.

I've also noted that despite it's cross platform orientation; that the engine favours 360. There's hints of this even in the PC versions of games, I've noticed that there is CPU activity on only three cores during play, plus PS3 gamers are well aware of the engines history with them.

I prefer id's engines to be honest. The Quake 3 engine was absolutely amazing when it came out. As was id tech 4 (DOOM 3) and id tech 5 looks amazing. Let's not forget the CryEngine either.

the source engine rapes all engines (bit of an exaggeration). it doesn't look great but there are so many games on it (mostly mods), it is insane, plus it has awesome physics simulation and amazing facial animations.

the source engine rapes all engines. it doesn't look great but there are so many games on it, it is insane, plus it has awesome physics simulation and amazing facial animations.

ironman388

The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Shad0ki11

I think you got it backwards. It is a pretty bad engine compared to some others, but it's free now.

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The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

shakmaster13

I think you got it backwards. It is a pretty bad engine compared to some others, but it's free now.

No it's not. It's free for indie developers to make mods, but it costs a lot of money for a major company to use the engine. The Unreal engine is great, man. So many games use it, including Mass Effect 2.

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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

The Unreal engine is by far one of the best out there. However, it's VERY expensive for game companies to use.

Shad0ki11

I think you got it backwards. It is a pretty bad engine compared to some others, but it's free now.

No it's not. It's free for indie developers to make mods, but it costs a lot of money for a major company to use the engine. The Unreal engine is great, man. So many games use it, including Mass Effect 2.

I didn't say its bad, just bad compared to some others such as cryengine 2 (much more scalable) and source (incredibly optimized). It's good for small scale corridor shooters, but other than that, in most other games it pales in comparison to other shooter engines like frostbite.

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I think you got it backwards. It is a pretty bad engine compared to some others, but it's free now.

shakmaster13

No it's not. It's free for indie developers to make mods, but it costs a lot of money for a major company to use the engine. The Unreal engine is great, man. So many games use it, including Mass Effect 2.

I didn't say its bad, just bad compared to some others such as cryengine 2 (much more scalable) and source (incredibly optimized). It's good for small scale corridor shooters, but other than that, in most other games it pales in comparison to other shooter engines like frostbite.

It's not bad at all--even compared to Cryengine and Source.

It certainly has a strong reputation for having great tools, and for being pretty flexible. But I think the flexibility hurts it in a few ways...some devs end up rewriting significant parts of it to make it work for their game. The poor MK vs. DC guys had a hell of a time getting it to run at 60fps.

It's certainly the most popular engine, it's just a shame most of the games visuals have the same feel to them. You get exceptions like Mirror's Edge and Borderlands, but most of them have a dark plastic feel.

I've also noted that despite it's cross platform orientation; that the engine favours 360. There's hints of this even in the PC versions of games, I've noticed that there is CPU activity on only three cores during play, plus PS3 gamers are well aware of the engines history with them.

AnnoyedDragon

It's good and terrible at the same time.

The lack of AA angers me and since I use steam and an ATI card I can't even trick it into working with AA. grrr

source is clearly the best engine ever created, 10 years strong and still goin'shadow_hosi