The Vanguard class in Mass Effect 2 is brutal.

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http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14235013/mass-effect-2/videos/masseffect2_trl_vanguard_10510.html

The bit with freezing enemies and braking them apart by charging into them kills me.

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Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.
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My first and main ME character was a vanguard and he was a walking power house, he could fire his pistol like it was a machine gun.

Can't wait to import him over and cause some chaos!

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Looks great, never thought i would be excited for an RPG :)
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http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14235013/mass-effect-2/videos/masseffect2_trl_vanguard_10510.html

The bit with freezing enemies and braking them apart by charging into them kills me.

dreman999
Thats the best part...When I first saw charge, I thought it was a ltl dumb, but its actually pretty cool...
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My first and main ME character was a vanguard and he was a walking power house, he could fire his pistol like it was a machine gun.

Can't wait to import him over and cause some chaos!

Snagal123
ya, I got the most powerful shot gun, and I can shoot dozens of yards with the thing and get 1 hit kills....
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#7 Human-after-all
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Here Ill start the system wars for you. This game looks superior to Demons Soul, worst GOTY ever.
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Its old but yeah, looks great. I cant wait for this game

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This game....Words cannot describe :o

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Its old but yeah, looks great. I cant wait for this game

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old? The video came out today...
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Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.Human-after-all
What with you? This is ok for system wars so don't be so grouchy.
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Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.Human-after-all
Ironic you would say it like that. The stickies of SW are also a few threads up. They permit general gaming news.
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This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

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#14 PAL360
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Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.Human-after-all

Yep, its system wars. 360 vs PC! ;)

PS3 fanboys.... theres nothing to see here :P

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This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

finalfantasy94
They just put it out today. The details about the powers of the vanguard is not new but the clip is new.
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This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

finalfantasy94
read the interview. Vanguard gets all the most powerful soldier and adept abilities...BTW, this video is only a few hours old...the GTTV video is not the same...
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Vanguard in the first game was kinda weak at first because points had to be spread out a lot but once you start getting points in they were just brutal.

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So far I want to make one of those. :P Rush attack looks pretty awesome, I liked close combat but there wasn't too much opportunity for it until you were so strong nothing mattered..
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#19 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

wolverine4262

read the interview. Vanguard gets all the most powerful soldier and adept abilities...BTW, this video is only a few hours old...the GTTV video is not the same...

Yea but its the same info from the vid. Just different areas. I knew about the class and how it looks already. Also wouldint having the most powerful soldier and adept abilitites make it kinda overpowered.

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This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

finalfantasy94

Actually, it's a new video. The original Vanguard video was just a gameplay video. This is the Vanguard's class formal explanation by the Lead Gameplay Designer, which other classes got when they were revealed.

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Its old but yeah, looks great. I cant wait for this game

wolverine4262

old? The video came out today...

:o man, you are right!!! For same reason i saw infiltrator insteed of Vanguard! :P

Yep, it looks incredible

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#22 Stats_
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My first and main ME character was a vanguard and he was a walking power house, he could fire his pistol like it was a machine gun.

Can't wait to import him over and cause some chaos!

Snagal123

Sadly i think you'll have to work him all the way back to that level

I heard on inside Xbox's interview that importing a character only gives you small boosts depending on your level.

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Defnitly the class im choosing...Infiltrator will have to wait for second playthrough.

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#24 Snagal123
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This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

finalfantasy94

What new classes? Maybe iam mistaken but its just the original 6 classes but with new powers, and if you havent played a vanguard in the first you really dont know what your missing, soldier/biotic hybrid, hybrid classes are generally always better than pure but require more work.

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This is the class I used in the first, can't wait for this game.
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#26 Stats_
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

finalfantasy94

read the interview. Vanguard gets all the most powerful soldier and adept abilities...BTW, this video is only a few hours old...the GTTV video is not the same...

Yea but its the same info from the vid. Just different areas. I knew about the class and how it looks already. Also wouldint having the most powerful soldier and adept abilitites make it kinda overpowered.

You don't. When you're a Vanguard you are restricted to medium? armour as opposed to heavy when you're a soldier. Plus you don't get anyproficiency with Assault rifles, shotguns or snipers.

Also you miss out on the top tier Biotic powers.

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#27 Snagal123
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

My first and main ME character was a vanguard and he was a walking power house, he could fire his pistol like it was a machine gun.

Can't wait to import him over and cause some chaos!

Stats_

Sadly i think you'll have to work him all the way back to that level

I heard on inside Xbox's interview that importing a character only gives you small boosts depending on your level.

Ye i know that, doesn't change the fact the vanguard is very powerful if played well. I can say after playing a vanguard, soldier, adept and infiltrator, vanguard is by far the most fun. Really not bothered about bonuses for importing, i just want my decisions to carry over.

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#28 wolverine4262
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

This is really really old. Actually it was the first new class shown. It was on gttv. Its ok class,but all I see that is has special is charge and thats about it. The other new classes are much more interesting.

finalfantasy94

read the interview. Vanguard gets all the most powerful soldier and adept abilities...BTW, this video is only a few hours old...the GTTV video is not the same...

Yea but its the same info from the vid. Just different areas. I knew about the class and how it looks already. Also wouldint having the most powerful soldier and adept abilitites make it kinda overpowered.

The GTTV vid is just gameplay. This is its formal unveiling.... Im just stating what the interveiw said. It gets benefits from the other classes. For example, it is the only class that has both incinerate and chryo
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"] read the interview. Vanguard gets all the most powerful soldier and adept abilities...BTW, this video is only a few hours old...the GTTV video is not the same...Stats_

Yea but its the same info from the vid. Just different areas. I knew about the class and how it looks already. Also wouldint having the most powerful soldier and adept abilitites make it kinda overpowered.

You don't. When you're a Vanguard you are restricted to medium? armour as opposed to heavy when you're a soldier. Plus you don't get anyproficiency with Assault rifles, shotguns or snipers.

Also you miss out on the top tier Biotic powers.

for me1 that is true but not for me2. All classes can use all weapons, and armors (i believe)...
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#30 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yea but its the same info from the vid. Just different areas. I knew about the class and how it looks already. Also wouldint having the most powerful soldier and adept abilitites make it kinda overpowered.

wolverine4262

You don't. When you're a Vanguard you are restricted to medium? armour as opposed to heavy when you're a soldier. Plus you don't get anyproficiency with Assault rifles, shotguns or snipers.

Also you miss out on the top tier Biotic powers.

for me1 that is true but not for me2. All ****s can use all weapons, and armors (i believe)...

That was the same as ME1, you just couldn't put any experiance into some of them.

I COULD use a sniper rifle with a Adept, it'd just miss ... and suck.

I hope this stays the same for ME2

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[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.musicalmac
Ironic you would say it like that. The stickies of SW are also a few threads up. They permit general gaming news.

Oh lol, shows what I know.
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="Stats_"]

You don't. When you're a Vanguard you are restricted to medium? armour as opposed to heavy when you're a soldier. Plus you don't get anyproficiency with Assault rifles, shotguns or snipers.

Also you miss out on the top tier Biotic powers.

Stats_

for me1 that is true but not for me2. All ****s can use all weapons, and armors (i believe)...

That was the same as ME1, you just couldn't put any experiance into some of them.

I COULD use a sniper rifle with a Adept, it'd just miss ... and suck.

I hope this stays the same for ME2

no, its not quite like that. All the classes can use all the weapons proficiently, HOWEVER certain classes will have perks for particular weapons....The difference with ME2 is that there are many more different weapon classes now. Each class still has a specialty, but they arent restricted.
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[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.dreman999
What with you? This is ok for system wars so don't be so grouchy.

Not grouchy, got a random urge to be obnoxious today.
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That was the same as ME1, you just couldn't put any experiance into some of them.

I COULD use a sniper rifle with a Adept, it'd just miss ... and suck.

I hope this stays the same for ME2

Stats_

I think it will, if you look closely at the start of the video where it shows the **** it say something like "weapon training - Shotgun, Heavy Pistol, Assualt Rifle"

So i think it will be the same but with some tweaks, like heavy and light pistols, but seems Vanguard gets rifles now, but i didn't see any mention of lift or throw, only pull.

Iam sure they wouldn't let everyone use everything as it make things unbalanced.

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#35 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

That was the same as ME1, you just couldn't put any experiance into some of them.

I COULD use a sniper rifle with a Adept, it'd just miss ... and suck.

I hope this stays the same for ME2

Snagal123

I think it will, if you look closely at the start of the video where it shows the **** it say something like "weapon training - Shotgun, Heavy Pistol, Assualt Rifle"

So i think it will be the same but with some tweaks, like heavy and light pistols, but seems Vanguard gets rifles now, but i didn't see any mention of lift or throw, only pull.

Iam sure they wouldn't let everyone use everything as it make things unbalanced.

That's what i was thinking. There would be little point in ****s at all if everyone could be brilliant with every kind if weapon.

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Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.Human-after-all

To make cows jealous.

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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

That was the same as ME1, you just couldn't put any experiance into some of them.

I COULD use a sniper rifle with a Adept, it'd just miss ... and suck.

I hope this stays the same for ME2

Snagal123

I think it will, if you look closely at the start of the video where it shows the **** it say something like "weapon training - Shotgun, Heavy Pistol, Assualt Rifle"

So i think it will be the same but with some tweaks, like heavy and light pistols, but seems Vanguard gets rifles now, but i didn't see any mention of lift or throw, only pull.

Iam sure they wouldn't let everyone use everything as it make things unbalanced.

I may have been wrong in what I said earlier. It was from the adept unveiling.

"We've removed armor and weapon skills completely. You'll be able to use any armor you acquire without restriction. We've increased the variety of weapons available to the adept, now you'll be able to use submachineguns, heavy pistols, and all heavy weapons, and you'll be incredibly accurate with all of these weapons without spending points. "

Im not sure if this only pertains to the adept **** but it looks like there is no longer any armor restriction and at the very least each ****gets more weapons options...

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Looks amazing. I still gotta get Mass Effect 1. Hopefully I can play and beat it before ME2.
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I think this game will get between a 9.8 and a 10 on IGN. Looks incredible.
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Its old but yeah, looks great. I cant wait for this game

wolverine4262

old? The video came out today...

Gametrailers had them for a while.

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Its old but yeah, looks great. I cant wait for this game

Espada12

old? The video came out today...

Gametrailers had them for a while.

Where?

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Where?

wolverine4262

Actually I should have rephrased that and said gametrailers had the cIasses already. I can't link them because they have cIass in the link so yea.

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#43 wolverine4262
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

Where?

Espada12

Actually I should have rephrased that and said gametrailers had the cIasses already. I can't link them because they have cIass in the link so yea.

ya, and the vanguard class isnt anywhere on there...
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#44 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

Where?

wolverine4262

Actually I should have rephrased that and said gametrailers had the cIasses already. I can't link them because they have cIass in the link so yea.

ya, and the vanguard ****isnt anywhere on there...

It is

and it happens to be the only one I can link lawl.

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It is

and it happens to be the only one I can link lawl.

Espada12

thats not the same video...Like I said earlier, that is just a gameplay video. The one the TC posted is and actual unveiling which explains the ****.

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#46 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

It is

and it happens to be the only one I can link lawl.

wolverine4262

thats not the same video...Like I said earlier, that is just a gameplay video. The one the TC posted is and actual unveiling which explains the ****.

Yeah true.

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I think this game will get between a 9.8 and a 10 on IGN. Looks incredible.C-Lee
Unless the game has glitches, or frame rate problems, or other technical issues. Also, for all we know, the plot could be boring, or have luls in it, or the controls may be borked up... all of those could affect teh score, but personally, I think if its anythign like the first ME only improved, it has to get an amazing score.
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That looks like a fun class. But first I'm going to play as an adept and whatever the 100% tech class is (forgot the name).

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[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.musicalmac
Ironic you would say it like that. The stickies of SW are also a few threads up. They permit general gaming news.

No worries. I'll really add the System Wars into this.

Mass Effect 2 will PULVERISE FF13 so badly, the morgue won't be able to identify the body!!! :twisted:

There, no more issues ;)

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#50 wolverine4262
Member since 2004 • 20832 Posts

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Where is the system wars here? Just wondering. Xbox 360/PC forums are a few up.AdobeArtist

Ironic you would say it like that. The stickies of SW are also a few threads up. They permit general gaming news.

No worries. I'll really add the System Wars into this.

Mass Effect 2 will PULVERISE FF13 so badly, the morgue won't be able to identify the body!!! :twisted:

There, no more issues ;)

*backs out of thread slowly*