The Water of BioShock trailer... damn !

Take a look if you haven't seen it yet !

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_bioshock_water_h264.wmv - 27mb3

Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive.  Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic.  I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away that the least.Corvin

completely unrealistic. Corvin

I guess my eyes lie. 

Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.Corvin

water isn't flat in bioshock thats why its unique, watch the new video to see. 

Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.Corvin

Watch the HD video. 

Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.Corvin

It's just water. What's the big deal? Next thing you know they'll add a guy peeing into the river and you'll marvel at the yellow stream going downstream.Zhengi

The water is an important element on this game, why not make it cool? 

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.tegovoltio

Watch the HD video.

Which video shows me the impressive water?   Certainly not the one the TC posted.. that water is completely unimpressive, like I said just fancy shaders on a what seems to be a completely flat surface.  

Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.Corvin

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]It's just water. What's the big deal? Next thing you know they'll add a guy peeing into the river and you'll marvel at the yellow stream going downstream.tegovoltio

The water is an important element on this game, why not make it cool? 

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]It's just water. What's the big deal? Next thing you know they'll add a guy peeing into the river and you'll marvel at the yellow stream going downstream.tegovoltio

The water is an important element on this game, why not make it cool?

For water that has as many ripples as this water there should be at least some sort of ripple effect again the edges, but there is not. Its just a shader effect on a flat, non-interactive surface. Not impressive for next-gen, sorry.

EDIT: If you want go ahead and point out that this is a work in progress.  Don't expect this anomaly to change in the final version. 

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.Corvin

Watch the HD video.

Which video shows me the impressive water? Certainly not the one the TC posted.. that water is completely unimpressive, like I said just fancy shaders on a what seems to be a completely flat surface.

I dunno if this is the same one but look: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/waterfeature/watervideo.html

If it is how can you say it's just some fancy shaders? And flatsurface what are you saying look at the one going down the stairs and the last parts it looks pretty good to me, not that many past games have water that doesn't looks like gel.

Now as good as the advanced water effects used in Shadow Warrior tbh.Lilac_Benjie

You no mess with Lo Wang !

[QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"]

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.tegovoltio

Watch the HD video.

Which video shows me the impressive water? Certainly not the one the TC posted.. that water is completely unimpressive, like I said just fancy shaders on a what seems to be a completely flat surface.

I dunno if this is the same one but look: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/waterfeature/watervideo.html

If it is how can you say it's just some fancy shaders? And flatsurface what are you saying look at the one going down the stairs and the last parts it looks pretty good to me, not that many past games have water that doesn't looks like gel.

He is correct on the fact that it is a flat texture cause if you look at the sides there should be some curves in the water but there isnt.  Its the same with Lair, the water is a flat texture and when you blow up a boat or something you can see the water ripples but the fact that its just a triggered animation and not real water effects.  

Though I do think the water looks really good and its defniatly going to add a lot of atmosphere even if it is just a flat texture, plus you dont see people complaining about bump mapping or any other graphical trick. 

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"]

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.justforlotr2004

Watch the HD video.

Which video shows me the impressive water? Certainly not the one the TC posted.. that water is completely unimpressive, like I said just fancy shaders on a what seems to be a completely flat surface.

I dunno if this is the same one but look: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/waterfeature/watervideo.html

If it is how can you say it's just some fancy shaders? And flatsurface what are you saying look at the one going down the stairs and the last parts it looks pretty good to me, not that many past games have water that doesn't looks like gel.

He is correct on the fact that it is a flat texture cause if you look at the sides there should be some curves in the water but there isnt. Its the same with Lair, the water is a flat texture and when you blow up a boat or something you can see the water ripples but the fact that its just a triggered animation and not real water effects.

Though I do think the water looks really good and its defniatly going to add a lot of atmosphere even if it is just a flat texture, plus you dont see people complaining about bump mapping or any other graphical trick.

I know exactly what he is saying but saying that it look unimpressive just because of some ''ripple'' it too much besides one expects to see that when it's triggered due to movement. 

For water that has as many ripples as this water there should be at least some sort of ripple effect again the edges, but there is not. Its just a shader effect on a flat, non-interactive surface. Not impressive for next-gen, sorry.

EDIT: If you want go ahead and point out that this is a work in progress.  Don't expect this anomaly to change in the final version. 

Corvin

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"]

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.tegovoltio

Watch the HD video.

Which video shows me the impressive water? Certainly not the one the TC posted.. that water is completely unimpressive, like I said just fancy shaders on a what seems to be a completely flat surface.

I dunno if this is the same one but look: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/waterfeature/watervideo.html

If it is how can you say it's just some fancy shaders? And flatsurface what are you saying look at the one going down the stairs and the last parts it looks pretty good to me, not that many past games have water that doesn't looks like gel.

He is correct on the fact that it is a flat texture cause if you look at the sides there should be some curves in the water but there isnt. Its the same with Lair, the water is a flat texture and when you blow up a boat or something you can see the water ripples but the fact that its just a triggered animation and not real water effects.

Though I do think the water looks really good and its defniatly going to add a lot of atmosphere even if it is just a flat texture, plus you dont see people complaining about bump mapping or any other graphical trick.

I know exactly what he is saying but saying that it look unimpressive just because of some ''ripple'' it too much besides one expects to see that when it's triggered due to movement.

I've been around the block a few times when it comes to video games and graphics.  To see water effects completely non- evolved except for some shaders even in "next-gen" is completely unimpressive to me.  Will it be a cool game?  Looks like it.  Is the water really all that impressive?  Not in the least.  Even Doom had flat liquid effect, they just didn't have shaders back then to add some flimsy illusion of ripples and depth.  Shaders are just not enough to impress me anymore.

I've been around the block a few times when it comes to video games and graphics. To see water effects completely non- evolved except for some shaders even in "next-gen" is completely unimpressive to me. Will it be a cool game? Looks like it. Is the water really all that impressive? Not in the least. Even Doom had flat liquid effect, they just didn't have shaders back then to add some flimsy illusion of ripples and depth. Shaders are just not enough to impress me anymore.

Corvin

Well to me it's not just the shaders other effects take place that look good to me like when it's going down the stairs, well there's a reason it says work in progress, according to the devs. the guys that worked on the water messed around a lot with it so I still expect some more effects.

[QUOTE="Corvin"]

For water that has as many ripples as this water there should be at least some sort of ripple effect again the edges, but there is not. Its just a shader effect on a flat, non-interactive surface. Not impressive for next-gen, sorry.

EDIT: If you want go ahead and point out that this is a work in progress. Don't expect this anomaly to change in the final version.

danneswegman

Still see it?

[QUOTE="Corvin"]

I've been around the block a few times when it comes to video games and graphics. To see water effects completely non- evolved except for some shaders even in "next-gen" is completely unimpressive to me. Will it be a cool game? Looks like it. Is the water really all that impressive? Not in the least. Even Doom had flat liquid effect, they just didn't have shaders back then to add some flimsy illusion of ripples and depth. Shaders are just not enough to impress me anymore.

tegovoltio

Well to me it's not just the shaders other effects take place that look good to me like when it's going down the stairs, well there's a reason it says work in progress, according to the devs. the guys that worked on the water messed around a lot with it so I still expect some more effects.

Water going down the stairs = shader effects. 

Corvins obession with the water is adorable :lol:NextGenNow

As someone who has a 360 and frequently takes the side of 360 fanboys I feel obligated to offset my bias with a healthy dose of skepticism towards a game that is appearing on my console of choice.

EDIT: Besides... I'm not wrong. 

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="Corvin"]

For water that has as many ripples as this water there should be at least some sort of ripple effect again the edges, but there is not. Its just a shader effect on a flat, non-interactive surface. Not impressive for next-gen, sorry.

EDIT: If you want go ahead and point out that this is a work in progress. Don't expect this anomaly to change in the final version.

Corvin

Still see it?

Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive. Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic. I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away at the least.Corvin

well hardly beats farcry water 3 years later

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Its just some shader effects, not terribly impressive.  Like so many games from generations before it, the water is simply still just a flat surface, completely unrealistic.  I'd love to see some real water effect but looks like thats yet another graphical generation away that the least.11Marcel

farcry had moving water 3 years ago, its nothing new.  the wave rolling onto the beach in farcry look amazing even today

now i may get flamed but what the hell i think that the water effects surpass crysis water, because the water in crysis looks to artificial, and oh yeah is that bioshock trailer running on the pc or xbox 360???d_40

well hardly beats farcry water 3 years later

imprezawrx500

Actually BY FAR the best water in any game is in Far Cry Predator on 360, and now Bioshock, 360 is a BEAST

uh mediocrity?  Time to watch Crysis vids.NobuoMusicMaker

Crysis water is amazing, but this is as good and Far Cry Predator even better

Bioshock is gonna score higher than Halo and it's one of my most hyped games due out this year. I can't wait to get the disk in my 360.

Anyone who hasn't seen it should look at  the 2 gameplay videos on youtube, the water looks amazing in game aswell. 

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="Corvin"]

For water that has as many ripples as this water there should be at least some sort of ripple effect again the edges, but there is not. Its just a shader effect on a flat, non-interactive surface. Not impressive for next-gen, sorry.

EDIT: If you want go ahead and point out that this is a work in progress. Don't expect this anomaly to change in the final version.

Corvin

Still see it?

You are a very complicated person, i mean you are bothering with some damn water, man it's just a video game :roll:

It's just water. What's the big deal? Next thing you know they'll add a guy peeing into the river and you'll marvel at the yellow stream going downstream.Zhengi

 its nothing new

imprezawrx500

Who said it was new ?