The Wii dosen't like you, Get used to it

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#1 thegoldenpoo
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The Wii dosen't like me either, let me explain.

I am a 16-30 year old male self professed nerd with a soild grounding in gaming scince the days the Amigia. Im guessing you are something similar seing as how you are on a gaming forum. We are the traditional Gamer and the nintendo wii seems to be geared to upset us.

The nature of the wii is such that we are not its target audince anymore. The most striking thing about this christmas is how many people ive heard are getting a Wii, even more puzzling is the people who are getting one. Most of the people who have said "i want i wii" are "ive got a wii" were girls, non gaming girls of ages roughly 10-15 or non gaming adults who bought them for their families. This explains a great deal, these are the people the wii is meant for. These are the legandary 'casual gamer'.

The wii has become a gadget, an expensive thing to played at christmas and then forgotten about most of the rest of the year, like bop-it or a singing fish.

The Games

This new audience, fankly, wouldn't know a great game if it pimp-slaped them square in the face. They are the gaming illitarate, black maluable sacks of money to nintendo. Think back to the days when you started gaming, i know i bought a painful amount of trerrible games that i thought were awesome at the sime simply because i didn't know any thing else exsisted.

Nintendo have been able to get away with some pretty staggering things due to this, they have been able top get away with Animal Crossing city folk, a shameful cash-in on the original which bears more resembelance to a port. They have done this becuase many of the people this new version is aimed at never played the original so making a totally new and oroginal game game wound't really make much sense.They no longer NEED to make good games, they have a captive new audince and have statred to work on such things as Wii music or wii sports resort.

As of next year Nintendo will start re-releasing GameCube games for the wii with tacked on waggle at nearly full price. This in my veiw is almost unforgiveable, nevermid the fact that the Wii is BC, it just shows their compleat abandonment of those who supported them last genration. insted of making new games they will churn out the same game again for those who weren't there the first time. Well i was there! and i bet that you were too.

The On-Line

As a console that touts its 'innovartion' the wii has make some pretty big staggering steps sideways. Firstly in the on-line department, the gamecube had no online. people laught at the poor gamecube. And rightly so, online multoplayer is one of the biggest steps the original x-box took. The wii is almost no better, having an amount of online game i can count on one hand and those infernal freind codes! *grrr* Compare this to an intergrated online community like LIVE for instance and you can see why, as a gamer, i am mad.

For nintendo to ignore this trend and not be punised it needed to chuck the gamer out of the window, and replace him with joe the casual. Nintendos new audince are not are serious about their games as we are, they are not particularly tech-savy so online would just be a confusing indulgence on nintendos part. I know im ranting like a nintendo jilted me but they kind of did. I liked the gamecube, despite its flaws it showed promise and nintendo could have bulit a great online comunity with its successor. insted they cellotaped on some waggle and called it a wii.

Graphics

they matter, no matter what anyone says they do. The best thing about this gen in terms of the PC/360 and PS3 has been cinematic gaming. Games that are complelling, beautyful looking, have immersive sound and stories. Games that are almost equivelant to movies in their tone, polish, production values and Visual prowess. In my veiw this all stared back in 2004 when HL2 gave us a taste of this new and exiting development that the wi has yet to show any hint of.

This may be to due with the fact that the wii is, as stated above, not meant to do this. The wii is a gadget, it makes noised and spews out bright colours, the adverage wii gamer dosen't want to care about all of that, they don't care if all of their games have the depth of a spoon.

We all got left behind...

Nintendo was right to do this. It was losing last gen, it needed a new audience. A appluad their sucess but don't expect me to like their console. I know too much about games and have been gaming for to long for my own good to enjoy the wii, its not meant for you and its not meant for me but don't expect me not to be mad about that.

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#2 Willy105
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I'm so sorry about that. :(
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Your opinion is duly noted, and you make some good points, but I consider myself a gamer and I love my Wii. Plenty of good games to play and if I'm looking for something different, I'll get out my PSP.
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which really makes me mad is that nintendo have the zelda franchise, and i want to play twilight princess so bad but im not willing to buy a wii just for one game.

as for the gamecube it was a ball of disappointment. i want a realistic zelda but got wind waker. i wanted a sequal to wwf no mercy but thq gave us some other smackdown **** i wanted perfect dark and banjo koozie but then rare got bought out. i was a kid at the time, so yeah i wanted a 3d pokemon adventure game and got that stadium crap again.

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#5 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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The Wii likes me. :oops:

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#6 fabz_95
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Bu...Bu... I THOUGHT MY WII LOVED ME :cry:

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Yeah I can understand why you might not like Wii but I know I still have a hefty backlog of Wii games I still have to play through.
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which really makes me mad is that nintendo have the zelda franchise, and i want to play twilight princess so bad but im not willing to buy a wii just for one game.

as for the gamecube it was a ball of disappointment. i want a realistic zelda but got wind waker. i wanted a sequal to wwf no mercy but thq gave us some other smackdown **** i wanted perfect dark and banjo koozie but then rare got bought out. i was a kid at the time, so yeah i wanted a 3d pokemon adventure game and got that stadium crap again.

dthach614
I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made. And Twilight Princess is on the Gamecube.
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Hm but the bad games aren't selling nearly as much as the good games... They aren't gaming illiterate at all.
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#10 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made.Willy105

That would be because it is.

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Yeah I can understand why you might not like Wii but I know I still have a hefty backlog of Wii games I still have to play through.RABicle
Haha, 13 games to complete? That should keep you busy for a while :P
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Your opinion is duly noted, and you make some good points, but I consider myself a gamer and I love my Wii. Plenty of good games to play and if I'm looking for something different, I'll get out my PSP.jimkabrhel
What were the good points?
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Your opinion is duly noted, and you make some good points, but I consider myself a gamer and I love my Wii. Plenty of good games to play and if I'm looking for something different, I'll get out my PSP.jimkabrhel
You have to admit, the wii is neglecting its core audience, i personally can't be happy with the wii when i know that the SNES era existed. how can you miss out on so much and be happy?
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Hm but the bad games aren't selling nearly as much as the good games... They aren't gaming illiterate at all.KungfuKitten
Almost all shovelware released for the Wii actually isn't selling at all, which is why you see so much of it. The only shovelware that sells are the ones that are advertised properly, like Carnival Games.
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Hm but the bad games aren't selling nearly as much as the good games... They aren't gaming illiterate at all.Willy105
Almost all shovelware released for the Wii actually isn't selling at all, which is why you see so much of it. The only shovelware that sells are the ones that are advertised properly, like Carnival Games.

My point was that they can get away with re-hashing (AA: City Folk) games or shalow games (Wii music). nothing to do with shovelware.
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Hm but the bad games aren't selling nearly as much as the good games... They aren't gaming illiterate at all.thegoldenpoo
Almost all shovelware released for the Wii actually isn't selling at all, which is why you see so much of it. The only shovelware that sells are the ones that are advertised properly, like Carnival Games.

My point was that they can get away with re-hashing (AA: City Folk) games or shalow games (Wii music). nothing to do with shovelware.

But here's the problem. AA for Wii was not a re-hash, and Wii Music wasn't shallow (it was simple, but kinda deep). Just because it's a sequel, it's not a re-hash. And they aren't bad games. Bad games are stuff like Bobo's Circus, which I saw at Wal*Mart yesterday, which nobody wanted.
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[QUOTE="dthach614"]

which really makes me mad is that nintendo have the zelda franchise, and i want to play twilight princess so bad but im not willing to buy a wii just for one game.

as for the gamecube it was a ball of disappointment. i want a realistic zelda but got wind waker. i wanted a sequal to wwf no mercy but thq gave us some other smackdown **** i wanted perfect dark and banjo koozie but then rare got bought out. i was a kid at the time, so yeah i wanted a 3d pokemon adventure game and got that stadium crap again.

Willy105

I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made. And Twilight Princess is on the Gamecube.

no not in my opinion. and i sold my game cube before TP

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#18 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="dthach614"]

which really makes me mad is that nintendo have the zelda franchise, and i want to play twilight princess so bad but im not willing to buy a wii just for one game.

as for the gamecube it was a ball of disappointment. i want a realistic zelda but got wind waker. i wanted a sequal to wwf no mercy but thq gave us some other smackdown **** i wanted perfect dark and banjo koozie but then rare got bought out. i was a kid at the time, so yeah i wanted a 3d pokemon adventure game and got that stadium crap again.

dthach614

I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made. And Twilight Princess is on the Gamecube.

no not in my opinion. and i sold my game cube before TP

There's your problem.
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[QUOTE="dthach614"][QUOTE="Willy105"] I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made. And Twilight Princess is on the Gamecube.Willy105

no not in my opinion. and i sold my game cube before TP

There's your problem.

its not just TP, the upcoming zeldas too.

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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Willy105"] Almost all shovelware released for the Wii actually isn't selling at all, which is why you see so much of it. The only shovelware that sells are the ones that are advertised properly, like Carnival Games.

My point was that they can get away with re-hashing (AA: City Folk) games or shalow games (Wii music). nothing to do with shovelware.

But here's the problem. AA for Wii was not a re-hash, and Wii Music wasn't shallow (it was simple, but kinda deep). Just because it's a sequel, it's not a re-hash. And they aren't bad games. Bad games are stuff like Bobo's Circus, which I saw at Wal*Mart yesterday, which nobody wanted.

You can deny reality all you want, but AA:CF WAS a quick cash-in re-hash. Don't just take my word for it Both GS and IGN said the exact same. why do you defend the wii when it slaps you in the face?
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What did I do to the Wii that it resents me? Here I thought my Wii and I got along amicably....
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What did I do to the Wii that it resents me? Here I thought my Wii and I got along amicably....SpruceCaboose
Its sleeping with the casuals behind your back :twisted:
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[QUOTE="RABicle"]Yeah I can understand why you might not like Wii but I know I still have a hefty backlog of Wii games I still have to play through.fabz_95
Haha, 13 games to complete? That should keep you busy for a while :P

13 good games is alot. I own 17 games and despite most of them being highly rated, I think that only about 6 of them are actually good games that i'd recommend people buy. Anyways, I really don't think Nintendo is neglecting its core audience at all. Nintendo was never the home of hyper-violent games and they haven't had good 3rd party support since the early 90s. Since the N64 they've been good for one thing: first party franchises. So far, the Wii has delivered AAA* Mario platformer that was Game of the Year on GS, AAA* Zelda, AAA* Metroid, AAA* Smash Brothers and there are talks that a new Mario and Zelda is on the way. They haven't done multiple Mario games since the SNES. If anything, thats a return to form. Yes, there are alot of bad games on the Wii but there are alot of bad games on the 360/PS3 as well. Also, since when do we judge system by their bad games rather than their good ones? I can't say that Nintendo is ignoring their core audience when they've made Game of the Year, AAA and AA games for almost every core franchise that they have. That'd be like the PS3 having AAA FInal Fantasy, AA Devil May Cry, AAA Resident Evil, AAA Tekken, Game of the Year Metal Gear Solid and people still saying that Sony is ignoring their core audience. I think the real hatred of the Wii is what you see when anything that was once niche becomes super popular. Alot of gamers that thought that gaming was something that only they and their male friends did. It was this secretive hobby that only they knew about. There was this whole other world that the general public didn't know about. Now Nintendo has bought this world to the masses. They see women and old people playing games and its no longer their lil secret hobby. I think this pisses them off to no end and thats where most of the Wii hate comes from. That and the fact that sadly, most 360/PS3 gamers think that if a game doesn't have decapitations, guns and a M rating, then its flawed by default. At least in the US. The only 360 and PS3 games that made the Top 10 charts were shooters. And its not like there were only 2 360/PS3 games, theres were like 5 or 6 of them. *Metacritic
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] My point was that they can get away with re-hashing (AA: City Folk) games or shalow games (Wii music). nothing to do with shovelware.

But here's the problem. AA for Wii was not a re-hash, and Wii Music wasn't shallow (it was simple, but kinda deep). Just because it's a sequel, it's not a re-hash. And they aren't bad games. Bad games are stuff like Bobo's Circus, which I saw at Wal*Mart yesterday, which nobody wanted.

You can deny reality all you want, but AA:CF WAS a quick cash-in re-hash. Don't just take my word for it Both GS and IGN said the exact same. why do you defend the wii when it slaps you in the face?

Isn't it Animal Crossing: City Folk, so AC:CF? Or are you talking about another game?
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]What did I do to the Wii that it resents me? Here I thought my Wii and I got along amicably....thegoldenpoo
Its sleeping with the casuals behind your back :twisted:

As long as it can have a good time with me when its with me, it can sleep with the casuals. The 360 cheats on me with MS about once a year when it fakes RRoD to be with them, and my PS3 has a long running affair going with Blu-Ray movies, but we all know the arraignments.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Willy105"] But here's the problem. AA for Wii was not a re-hash, and Wii Music wasn't shallow (it was simple, but kinda deep). Just because it's a sequel, it's not a re-hash. And they aren't bad games. Bad games are stuff like Bobo's Circus, which I saw at Wal*Mart yesterday, which nobody wanted.

You can deny reality all you want, but AA:CF WAS a quick cash-in re-hash. Don't just take my word for it Both GS and IGN said the exact same. why do you defend the wii when it slaps you in the face?

Isn't it Animal Crossing: City Folk, so AC:CF? Or are you talking about another game?

Woops, my mistake. ok then Mr. Perfect AC:CF. happy now?
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I didn't read it, but I completely agree. Nintendo shot themselves in the foot, and completely screwed their hardcore fans. It's not even in the same demographic as PS3, 360, and PC.
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I didn't read it, but I completely agree. Nintendo shot themselves in the foot, and completely screwed their hardcore fans. It's not even in the same demographic as PS3, 360, and PC.FalcoLX
you didn't read it, yet you are the only one in this thread who compleatly got the point. Well done, have a cookie!

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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] Woops, my mistake. ok then Mr. Perfect AC:CF. happy now?

Not really. I would prefer being asleep still, but I will live. Got a day full of movies, so I am pleased regardless.
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="dthach614"]

which really makes me mad is that nintendo have the zelda franchise, and i want to play twilight princess so bad but im not willing to buy a wii just for one game.

as for the gamecube it was a ball of disappointment. i want a realistic zelda but got wind waker. i wanted a sequal to wwf no mercy but thq gave us some other smackdown **** i wanted perfect dark and banjo koozie but then rare got bought out. i was a kid at the time, so yeah i wanted a 3d pokemon adventure game and got that stadium crap again.

I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made. And Twilight Princess is on the Gamecube.

I always hoped and prayed for a true 3D Pokemon RPG on the 64, but it never happened. Heck, I (SW Bet OMG :lol: ) will buy a Wii the second they announce it in development for it, but I know now its never gonna happen. Just just another dream that will never see the light of day. Instead we get crap like Snap, and Stadium.
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Willy105"] But here's the problem. AA for Wii was not a re-hash, and Wii Music wasn't shallow (it was simple, but kinda deep). Just because it's a sequel, it's not a re-hash. And they aren't bad games. Bad games are stuff like Bobo's Circus, which I saw at Wal*Mart yesterday, which nobody wanted.SpruceCaboose
You can deny reality all you want, but AA:CF WAS a quick cash-in re-hash. Don't just take my word for it Both GS and IGN said the exact same. why do you defend the wii when it slaps you in the face?

Isn't it Animal Crossing: City Folk, so AC:CF? Or are you talking about another game?

Yeah it is AC:CF. He probably just got mixed up.
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I didn't read it, but I completely agree.FalcoLX

*540 facepalm to a headdesk COMBO*

For all you know, he could have said horrible things about your family in the last sentence. :P

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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="dthach614"]

which really makes me mad is that nintendo have the zelda franchise, and i want to play twilight princess so bad but im not willing to buy a wii just for one game.

as for the gamecube it was a ball of disappointment. i want a realistic zelda but got wind waker. i wanted a sequal to wwf no mercy but thq gave us some other smackdown **** i wanted perfect dark and banjo koozie but then rare got bought out. i was a kid at the time, so yeah i wanted a 3d pokemon adventure game and got that stadium crap again.

mbrockway

I thought Wind Waker was the best Zelda game ever made. And Twilight Princess is on the Gamecube.

I always hoped and prayed for a true 3D Pokemon RPG on the 64, but it never happened. Heck, I (SW Bet OMG :lol: ) will buy a Wii the second they announce it in development for it, but I know now its never gonna happen. Just just another dream that will never see the light of day. Instead we get crap like Snap, and Stadium.

:lol: :lol: i forgot about pokemon snap:lol:

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[QUOTE="FalcoLX"]I didn't read it, but I completely agree.Tsug_Ze_Wind

*540 facepalm to a headdesk COMBO*

For all you know, he could have said horrible things about your family in the last sentence. :P

Its what i always do, and no one notices :twisted: At least he admitted not reading it, unlike all the other people wh omade points about things i never said or even hinted at.
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

I didn't read it, but I completely agree.FalcoLX

*540 facepalm to a headdesk COMBO*

For all you know, he could have said horrible things about your family in the last sentence. :P

Its what i always do, and no one notices :twisted: At least he admitted not reading it, unlike all the other people wh omade points about things i never said or even hinted at.

@Your last sentence : I see people doing things like that in other threads all the time :lol:
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

*540 facepalm to a headdesk COMBO*

For all you know, he could have said horrible things about your family in the last sentence. :P

fabz_95
Its what i always do, and no one notices :twisted: At least he admitted not reading it, unlike all the other people wh omade points about things i never said or even hinted at.

@Your last sentence : I see people doing things like that in other threads all the time :lol:

Why are you laughing? people not reading an OP properly is one of the worst things here at SW
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] Its what i always do, and no one notices :twisted: At least he admitted not reading it, unlike all the other people wh omade points about things i never said or even hinted at.

I read good chunks, and then posted what I was going to post from what I read in the title.... all that reading stuff is still processing... :D
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I went back and read it, and still agree. I think Nintendo's affair with casual's is summed up by one fact, and yes, it is a fact don't lie to yourself. Nintendo made money off of each console sold. They actually profit just by selling the console, unlike Sony and Microsoft, who lost over $100 per console at launch, because they knew their fans would buy lots of games. This is where they make their money. They sell a lot of games per console. Nintendo probably didn't expect to sell a lot of games, except 1 or 2 with the console. My casual gaming sister and her husband, have a whopping 2 games for their wii, which she bought over a year ago.
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The Wii dosen't like me either, let me explain.

I am a 16-30 year old male self professed nerd with a soild grounding in gaming scince the days the Amigia. Im guessing you are something similar seing as how you are on a gaming forum. We are the traditional Gamer and the nintendo wii seems to be geared to upset us.

The nature of the wii is such that we are not its target audince anymore. The most striking thing about this christmas is how many people ive heard are getting a Wii, even more puzzling is the people who are getting one. Most of the people who have said "i want i wii" are "ive got a wii" were girls, non gaming girls of ages roughly 10-15 or non gaming adults who bought them for their families. This explains a great deal, these are the people the wii is meant for. These are the legandary 'casual gamer'.

The wii has become a gadget, an expensive thing to played at christmas and then forgotten about most of the rest of the year, like bop-it or a singing fish.

The Games

This new audience, fankly, wouldn't know a great game if it pimp-slaped them square in the face. They are the gaming illitarate, black maluable sacks of money to nintendo. Think back to the days when you started gaming, i know i bought a painful amount of trerrible games that i thought were awesome at the sime simply because i didn't know any thing else exsisted.

Nintendo have been able to get away with some pretty staggering things due to this, they have been able top get away with Animal Crossing city folk, a shameful cash-in on the original which bears more resembelance to a port. They have done this becuase many of the people this new version is aimed at never played the original so making a totally new and oroginal game game wound't really make much sense.They no longer NEED to make good games, they have a captive new audince and have statred to work on such things as Wii music or wii sports resort.

As of next year Nintendo will start re-releasing GameCube games for the wii with tacked on waggle at nearly full price. This in my veiw is almost unforgiveable, nevermid the fact that the Wii is BC, it just shows their compleat abandonment of those who supported them last genration. insted of making new games they will churn out the same game again for those who weren't there the first time. Well i was there! and i bet that you were too.

The On-Line

As a console that touts its 'innovartion' the wii has make some pretty big staggering steps sideways. Firstly in the on-line department, the gamecube had no online. people laught at the poor gamecube. And rightly so, online multoplayer is one of the biggest steps the original x-box took. The wii is almost no better, having an amount of online game i can count on one hand and those infernal freind codes! *grrr* Compare this to an intergrated online community like LIVE for instance and you can see why, as a gamer, i am mad.

For nintendo to ignore this trend and not be punised it needed to chuck the gamer out of the window, and replace him with joe the casual. Nintendos new audince are not are serious about their games as we are, they are not particularly tech-savy so online would just be a confusing indulgence on nintendos part. I know im ranting like a nintendo jilted me but they kind of did. I liked the gamecube, despite its flaws it showed promise and nintendo could have bulit a great online comunity with its successor. insted they cellotaped on some waggle and called it a wii.

Graphics

they matter, no matter what anyone says they do. The best thing about this gen in terms of the PC/360 and PS3 has been cinematic gaming. Games that are complelling, beautyful looking, have immersive sound and stories. Games that are almost equivelant to movies in their tone, polish, production values and Visual prowess. In my veiw this all stared back in 2004 when HL2 gave us a taste of this new and exiting development that the wi has yet to show any hint of.

This may be to due with the fact that the wii is, as stated above, not meant to do this. The wii is a gadget, it makes noised and spews out bright colours, the adverage wii gamer dosen't want to care about all of that, they don't care if all of their games have the depth of a spoon.

We all got left behind...

Nintendo was right to do this. It was losing last gen, it needed a new audience. A appluad their sucess but don't expect me to like their console. I know too much about games and have been gaming for to long for my own good to enjoy the wii, its not meant for you and its not meant for me but don't expect me not to be mad about that.

thegoldenpoo

YSE!! well said, my sentiments exactly.

The reason why the wii is still selling even tho those points above are 100% true, is becuase its a virus aimed at a completely diffrent market. Family/casual/nongamers and it 'looks' fun, it would be the perfect choice for parents...just look at it, it looks nice a family friendly..not to mention quite cheap compared to the competion.

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i am sorry but an item cannot love you :| nor can it hate you and no your just another person complaing about not looking up games. you dont lik the wii fine go buy something else littery.
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i am sorry but an item cannot love you :| nor can it hate you and no your just another person complaing about not looking up games. you dont lik the wii fine go buy something else littery.fbigent34
I am pretty sure the TC was humorously using humanization to convey his point, and was not actually saying that the Wii can feel love...
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[QUOTE="fbigent34"]i am sorry but an item cannot love you :| nor can it hate you and no your just another person complaing about not looking up games. you dont lik the wii fine go buy something else littery.SpruceCaboose
I am pretty sure the TC was humorously using humanization to convey his point, and was not actually saying that the Wii can feel love...

Indeed. There's this cool literary tool called personification.
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[QUOTE="fbigent34"]i am sorry but an item cannot love you :| nor can it hate you and no your just another person complaing about not looking up games. you dont lik the wii fine go buy something else littery.SpruceCaboose
I am pretty sure the TC was humorously using humanization to convey his point, and was not actually saying that the Wii can feel love...

Oh i was, i also think my toaster is secretly plotting to murder me and the hoover is a little to saracastic.
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[QUOTE="RABicle"]Yeah I can understand why you might not like Wii but I know I still have a hefty backlog of Wii games I still have to play through.fabz_95
Haha, 13 games to complete? That should keep you busy for a while :P

Wow I thought to myself. "13, it's more than that" and noticed there were a ton of games I hadn't added to backloggery. And yes, I will be bus. I have like a job and uni to worry about as well.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="fbigent34"]i am sorry but an item cannot love you :| nor can it hate you and no your just another person complaing about not looking up games. you dont lik the wii fine go buy something else littery.FalcoLX
I am pretty sure the TC was humorously using humanization to convey his point, and was not actually saying that the Wii can feel love...

Indeed. There's this cool literary tool called personification.

I personally prefer playing with words wildly using alliteration... :D
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The Wii dosen't like me either, let me explain.

I am a 16-30 year old male self professed nerd with a soild grounding in gaming scince the days the Amigia. Im guessing you are something similar seing as how you are on a gaming forum. We are the traditional Gamer and the nintendo wii seems to be geared to upset us.

The nature of the wii is such that we are not its target audince anymore. The most striking thing about this christmas is how many people ive heard are getting a Wii, even more puzzling is the people who are getting one. Most of the people who have said "i want i wii" are "ive got a wii" were girls, non gaming girls of ages roughly 10-15 or non gaming adults who bought them for their families. This explains a great deal, these are the people the wii is meant for. These are the legandary 'casual gamer'.

The wii has become a gadget, an expensive thing to played at christmas and then forgotten about most of the rest of the year, like bop-it or a singing fish.

The Games

This new audience, fankly, wouldn't know a great game if it pimp-slaped them square in the face. They are the gaming illitarate, black maluable sacks of money to nintendo. Think back to the days when you started gaming, i know i bought a painful amount of trerrible games that i thought were awesome at the sime simply because i didn't know any thing else exsisted.

Nintendo have been able to get away with some pretty staggering things due to this, they have been able top get away with Animal Crossing city folk, a shameful cash-in on the original which bears more resembelance to a port. They have done this becuase many of the people this new version is aimed at never played the original so making a totally new and oroginal game game wound't really make much sense.They no longer NEED to make good games, they have a captive new audince and have statred to work on such things as Wii music or wii sports resort.

As of next year Nintendo will start re-releasing GameCube games for the wii with tacked on waggle at nearly full price. This in my veiw is almost unforgiveable, nevermid the fact that the Wii is BC, it just shows their compleat abandonment of those who supported them last genration. insted of making new games they will churn out the same game again for those who weren't there the first time. Well i was there! and i bet that you were too.

The On-Line

As a console that touts its 'innovartion' the wii has make some pretty big staggering steps sideways. Firstly in the on-line department, the gamecube had no online. people laught at the poor gamecube. And rightly so, online multoplayer is one of the biggest steps the original x-box took. The wii is almost no better, having an amount of online game i can count on one hand and those infernal freind codes! *grrr* Compare this to an intergrated online community like LIVE for instance and you can see why, as a gamer, i am mad.

For nintendo to ignore this trend and not be punised it needed to chuck the gamer out of the window, and replace him with joe the casual. Nintendos new audince are not are serious about their games as we are, they are not particularly tech-savy so online would just be a confusing indulgence on nintendos part. I know im ranting like a nintendo jilted me but they kind of did. I liked the gamecube, despite its flaws it showed promise and nintendo could have bulit a great online comunity with its successor. insted they cellotaped on some waggle and called it a wii.

Graphics

they matter, no matter what anyone says they do. The best thing about this gen in terms of the PC/360 and PS3 has been cinematic gaming. Games that are complelling, beautyful looking, have immersive sound and stories. Games that are almost equivelant to movies in their tone, polish, production values and Visual prowess. In my veiw this all stared back in 2004 when HL2 gave us a taste of this new and exiting development that the wi has yet to show any hint of.

This may be to due with the fact that the wii is, as stated above, not meant to do this. The wii is a gadget, it makes noised and spews out bright colours, the adverage wii gamer dosen't want to care about all of that, they don't care if all of their games have the depth of a spoon.

We all got left behind...

Nintendo was right to do this. It was losing last gen, it needed a new audience. A appluad their sucess but don't expect me to like their console. I know too much about games and have been gaming for to long for my own good to enjoy the wii, its not meant for you and its not meant for me but don't expect me not to be mad about that.

thegoldenpoo

where yuo proof only girls certin age and non-gamers are buying it? please tell me... there is no way no way you can travel to all stores that have a wii in stock and watch people buy a wii :roll: this is base on assumption thats it.

So why are you even talking about it now? there goes your theory :roll:

than why haven't all the crappy games sell? :roll: again this is only assuming things please used fact you sound like system wars.

:lol: how much do you believe yourself do you even on a wii hack did you even try to animal crossing? :| though tis ok for other system to have reash and ports but not Nintnedo? cause there not trying? :lol: give me a break.

false Nintendo had online with the gamecube and xbox and ps2 didn't start out with online either :roll: xbox is the one who got online startred for consoles.

Last time i check not all games support friends code and your forgetting that xbox cost money so it cost nintendo twice as much to make a good service like that.

:|

All your doing is assuming this you havce no edvince to back up any of these claims this is opioion base and bias one as well :|

it needed a new adueince? it needed to win games and system sell really why does it have to be so much about grapchis online and powerufl system to people enjoy?

this is an bias opioion and seem you don t even on a wii :| another person complaing about something he has no edvince about....

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="fbigent34"]i am sorry but an item cannot love you :| nor can it hate you and no your just another person complaing about not looking up games. you dont lik the wii fine go buy something else littery.thegoldenpoo
I am pretty sure the TC was humorously using humanization to convey his point, and was not actually saying that the Wii can feel love...

Oh i was, i also think my toaster is secretly plotting to murder me and the hoover is a little to saracastic.

and i really care what he thinks? :roll:
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[QUOTE="fbigent34"] and i really care what he thinks? :roll:

You are still in the thread posting, no?
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[QUOTE="fbigent34"] and i really care what he thinks? :roll: SpruceCaboose
You are still in the thread posting, no?

hmm cause i got nothing better to do and i ment i couldn't care less what he ment.... i am tired of people with bias opioion with no edvince saying things... i just sold my 360 cause i didn't play it that much. haven't sold my wii
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i am tired of people with bias opioion with no edvince saying things... i just sold my 360 cause i didn't play it that much. haven't sold my wiifbigent34
You will get almost only that on System Wars. As for selling your 360, sorry about that. I made a choice to stop selling systems, since I always regret it later. Always. I even regretted and re-bought the Sega CD.... :o