The Wii is causing sega to lose $242 million :( bad wii..bad

Sega Sammy Holdings (holding company for Sega corp) has warned that it expects to lose $242 million USD this year as business slows down amid poor sales of Pachinko machines. The problems have sparked 400 job cuts at its game software division and the Wii's popularity is reportedly cited as one of the reasons as it brings the arcade market to the home user.

"The pachinko market has been hit by tighter regulations on the industry, while the outlook for the game arcade market has been dented by the soaring popularity of Nintendo Co Ltd's Wii game console that users play at home.

Sega Sammy predicted its pachinko machine segment would see operating profit fall 85 percent to 11 billion yen, and forecast its arcade division to post a loss of 11.4 billion yen, against a 132 million yen profit in the prior business year.

The net loss forecast reflects the pushing back of planned sales of real estate to the next business year and retirement benefits to the 400 employees being cut at Sega, equivalent to about 5 percent of its group workforce."

" The pachinko market has been hit by tighter regulations on the industry, while the outlook for the game arcade market has been dented by the soaring popularity of Nintendo Co Ltd's (7974.OS: Quote, Profile, Research) Wii game console that users play at home."

what you think?is wii truly having an effect or..sega just makes plain bad games and is using the wii as a scapegoat?

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Sega making bad games has nothing to do with Pachinko. Sega is losing money anyway, might as well make a Dreamcast 2. DO ET!Gigas_Yuu

you thik they will even have a chance? personally i would love it "sniff" BUT the other 3 will pressure and crush it i think and then carry on again

Last time I checked Wii makes money 4 nintendo and no one else while 360 makes money for everyone but the consumer. I haven'tplayed a good sega game in a long time so I am going w/ crappy games :o. GET BACK ON UR FEET SEGA U MADE THE 1st CONSOLE EXPASION PACK. (Sonic3 and knuckles FTW)

Last time I checked Wii makes money 4 nintendo and no one else while 360 makes money for everyone but the consumer. I haven'tplayed a good sega game in a long time so I am going w/ crappy games :o. GET BACK ON UR FEET SEGA U MADE THE 1st CONSOLE EXPASION PACK. (Sonic3 and knuckles FTW)

the1stfandb

What? :lol:

Sega making bad games has nothing to do with Pachinko. Sega is losing money anyway, might as well make a Dreamcast 2. DO ET!Gigas_Yuu

Yeah, make a Dreamcast 2 so they can lose more money. That's smart. :roll:

The problem is elderly people who would normally be going to the Pachinko parlors are staying home playing Wii Sports and Mario Party 8. A lot of people just aren't wasting their money on Pachinko as much anymore. Sega should have gotten out of that business a long time ago anyways. The regular Arcades are pretty much dead now. I haven't been to an arcade in like 3 years.

Sega doesn't deserve to make money if they aren't gonna make good games.

They haven't done anything interesting in the past few years imo.

By making lots of Flop games. :?

Sega doesn't deserve to make money if they aren't gonna make good games.

They haven't done anything interesting in the past few years imo.

the-very-best

Wow, Nintendo is still kicking the crap out of Sega YEARS after they won the fight.... it's like they are pissing on Sega's grave.

EDIT: Maybe Sega would make some money if they made another Panzer Dragoon game.... Just a thought.

Heres an idea make those arcade games on Wii. Cyber-

Ghost Squad?

i dont get what wii has to do with poor pachinko sales, but pachinko is awesome. so was that episode of power rangers wiht the pahinko machine monster. :)

Sega making bad games has nothing to do with Pachinko. Sega is losing money anyway, might as well make a Dreamcast 2. DO ET!Gigas_Yuu

Dreamcast 2 will flop in sales just like every one of their systems post Genesis.

i honestly dont even know how the dreamcast failed, i thought it was a great system with great games, we had shenmue, soul calibur, powerstone wars, capcom vs snk, and code veronica, i mean that sounds like a pretty solid line up and im sure their were more games too, so i think a second one would be cool, i also dont think nintendo is to blame for segas bad gaming skills, im sorry but sega agreed to the whole vc thing, and if they cant make good games even when they dont have a system to worry about, i honestly worry about their future. i was never a sega fan, as you might be able to tell, but i would hope that they try a little harder to keep their business alive, for the sake of shenmue 3, please sega dont give up yet!parksits

Sega ran out of money plain and simple, the console had sold over 10 million before Sega called it quits. The machine was amazing, it was only on the market for 18 months.

The Sega we all knew and loved though is pretty much gone, they are shadow of their former glory...

i honestly dont even know how the dreamcast failed, i thought it was a great system with great games, we had shenmue, soul calibur, powerstone wars, capcom vs snk, and code veronica, i mean that sounds like a pretty solid line up and im sure their were more games too, so i think a second one would be cool, i also dont think nintendo is to blame for segas bad gaming skills, im sorry but sega agreed to the whole vc thing, and if they cant make good games even when they dont have a system to worry about, i honestly worry about their future. i was never a sega fan, as you might be able to tell, but i would hope that they try a little harder to keep their business alive, for the sake of shenmue 3, please sega dont give up yet!parksits

Dreamcast failed because of Sega's reputation and lack of third party support.(EA)

Last time I checked Wii makes money 4 nintendo and no one else while 360 makes money for everyone but the consumer. I haven'tplayed a good sega game in a long time so I am going w/ crappy games :o. GET BACK ON UR FEET SEGA U MADE THE 1st CONSOLE EXPASION PACK. (Sonic3 and knuckles FTW)

the1stfandb

lol wut? :lol:

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Where did Sega go wrong? I loved the Genesis and Saturn but I don't love the majority of what Sega does now.meetroid8

What no Dreamcast love? :o

Frankly, if Sega and Namco had half a brain they would team up with Nintendo and make a Wii based arcade machine..much as they did last gen with the Gamecube based Triforce.

Just make a load of motion/pointer controlled Wii based arcade games, each with a high quailty controller shell unique to the title...and then port them to the home machine 6-12 months later. They could even sell the arcade controller shells to home users to make additional money and get a more authentic experience.

Plenty of money to be made if they put in a bit of effort.

Dear Sega,

Our Bad.

With Love,

Nintendo

[QUOTE="Cyber-"]Heres an idea make those arcade games on Wii. thriteenthmonke

Ghost Squad?

Sold incredibly well all market situations considered. BTW one game they have tohers that could have easily translated.

[QUOTE="Gigas_Yuu"]Sega making bad games has nothing to do with Pachinko. Sega is losing money anyway, might as well make a Dreamcast 2. DO ET!kage_53

Dreamcast 2 will flop in sales just like every one of their systems post Genesis.

I always get the feeling from new Sega games I NEED POLISH. Yes the games always lack a degree of polish but you still get great cutscenes as seen with Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity.