The Wii is simply not for hardcores

I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

GodHatesYankees

Probably because Nintendo hasn't learned anythng since the SNES

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

GodHatesYankees

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Silenthps

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Vandalvideo

i tyhink he meant the whole, "first person shooting" part of prime.

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Silenthps

One or two games isn't enough to appeal to the more hardcore gamers. I myself don't want the system just for that reason, no games with depth. You need more than one person to play games, all of the good ones are party games excpet for Zelda. I personally like online and singleplayer games, party games are fun once in awhile but I wouldn't buy a system just for them.

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Wasdie

One or two games isn't enough to appeal to the more hardcore gamers. I myself don't want the system just for that reason, no games with depth. You need more than one person to play games, all of the good ones are party games excpet for Zelda. I personally like online and singleplayer games, party games are fun once in awhile but I wouldn't buy a system just for them.

That's why he's complaining that the Wii doesn't have one or two games... Halo or Half-life calibur? First that's setting the bar both too low and to high at the same time... and second it has good to great games that hardcores likes...

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Silenthps

I wonder how many times sheep can use MP3 as the only example?

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

IronMaidenLives

I wonder how many times sheep can use MP3 as the only example?

when all youve got is 1 example....USE IT!!!

lol

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

IronMaidenLives

I wonder how many times sheep can use MP3 as the only example?

Because gamers doubted the wiimote even up till launch. Had they released a system priced the same as the 360 or PS3 with such a weird concept for a controller, it could have been disastrous.

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Wasdie

One or two games isn't enough to appeal to the more hardcore gamers. I myself don't want the system just for that reason, no games with depth. You need more than one person to play games, all of the good ones are party games excpet for Zelda. I personally like online and singleplayer games, party games are fun once in awhile but I wouldn't buy a system just for them.

At the moment no, the wii is trying to aim at everyone but focusing on the non gamers and nintendo hardcore fans more (SPM, mario stirkers, zelda and the big 3) . But if the wii continues it sucess I am more than sure that the wii will see more variety despite its lack in power.

I actually think that no more heroes and resident evil may set a standard for other 3rd party games

How can the wii not produce hardcore games? The ps2 is considerably weaker, andit had tons of them. Or have they suddenly all become casual trash?

the wii can and will give us great games. only a fool would say otherwise.

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I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

kman3002

Or it could be your to stupid to do a little research perhaps?

IRONY: Calling him stupid while you don't know how to spell "you're".

How can the wii not produce hardcore games? The ps2 is considerably weaker, andit had tons of them. Or have they suddenly all become casual trash?

the wii can and will give us great games. only a fool would say otherwise.

BuryMe

I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

GodHatesYankees

well, for hardcores, they will get some good games, like mario , zelda, pokemon, and metroid. that's about it. the rest will be minigames.

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I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

IronMaidenLives

Or it could be your to stupid to do a little research perhaps?

IRONY: Calling him stupid while you don't know how to spell "you're".

:P My bad I just woke up I see that mistake now.

I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

GodHatesYankees

The Wii is going to miss a lot of games that will go on the 360 and PS3. Of course, they'll say they have thei r exclusives. I've seen that exclusive list, it's nothing to get excited about. It's mostly kiddy stuff or party compilations or spin-offs like Umbrella Chronicles and Soul Calibur Legends. Hardly stuff to spend $50 on and miss.

THE WII DOESN'T APPEAL TO THE HARDCORE BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING. ALL THIS TALK OF HARDCORE GAMERS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DIMINISH PEOPLE. THERE ARE ALSO NO CASUALS. PEOPLE WHO LIKE GAMES ARE CALLED GAMERS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.Sir-Marwin105

But there are different types. One who has played games for over 15 years, plays Starcraft, Civiclization, KOTOR is different from someone who only played games for 1 year and played Wii sports. They have different knowledge about gaming and different tastes. To developers, this difference is important to know, so they know what to make in the future.

Just because I play baseball for 1 week does not classify me as a baseball player with the likes of Major League Baseball players. I know it sounds very empowering to unify all people into one group, but you have to get use to the fact there are distinct classes of gamers and divisions. If there weren't, we wouldn't have so many different genres of games.

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]THE WII DOESN'T APPEAL TO THE HARDCORE BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING. ALL THIS TALK OF HARDCORE GAMERS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DIMINISH PEOPLE. THERE ARE ALSO NO CASUALS. PEOPLE WHO LIKE GAMES ARE CALLED GAMERS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.PhoebusFlows

But there are different types. One who has played games for over 15 years, plays Starcraft, Civiclization, KOTOR is different from someone who only played games for 1 year and played Wii sports. They have different knowledge about gaming and different tastes. To developers, this difference is important to know, so they know what to make in the future.

Just because I play baseball for 1 week does not classify me as a baseball player with the likes of Major League Baseball players. I know it sounds very empowering to unify all people into one group, but you have to get use to the fact there are distinct classes of gamers and divisions. If there weren't, we wouldn't have so many different genres of games.

Because gamers doubted the wiimote even up till launch. Had they released a system priced the same as the 360 or PS3 with such a weird concept for a controller, it could have been disastrous.

iunderstand

Sigh, if we're just debating whether hardcore games can exist on the system, RE4 shows that great, hardcore games can run on Wii and run BETTER with motion/pointer controls... developers just need to get to it.

Manhunt 2 would have been more visceral on Wii due to literally sawing limbs and chopping heads.

Alien Syndrome brings a Diablo-esque game to consoles with a control scheme that doesn't feel archaic and clunky.

Scarface on Wii makes driving and shooting at the same time a breeze. Free aim is great, fast, and precise.

Godfather is arguably best on Wii due to enhanced melee and free aim.

Trauma Centre is a surprisingly hardcore game (due to the speed and precision required that most casuals don't have) that would not play well on standard controllers.

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I feel the Wii is made only for the casual market. Why didn't Nintendo make a system with a little more power so people with a Wii can enjoy more expansive games? For Example, if there is to be a KOTOR 3, it will not be on the Wii due to the sheer size of it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Because the Wii is made for the simplest of games. Hardcores will just have to have a PC, 360 or PS3.

IronMaidenLives

Probably because Nintendo hasn't learned anythng since the SNES

How can the wii not produce hardcore games? The ps2 is considerably weaker, andit had tons of them. Or have they suddenly all become casual trash?

the wii can and will give us great games. only a fool would say otherwise.

BuryMe

QFT

I guess that means the Xbox was made for the simplest of games too, right?

If you're looking for a deep gaming experience, it's either a 360, PS3 or PC. End of discussion.

i agree... they ought to have put more power into the wii and maybe then more ps3 and x360 games would be ported to it... its exactly the same with last generation. so often would we hear "blah blah blah blah available on ps2 and xbox" and already this gen we're hearing the same but with ps3 and x360.

nintendo dont seem to care about a lot of these games, preferring instead to continue with their own (worn out IMO) franchises.

my favourite genre if shooters, and with xbox 360 i have several options like rainbow six vegas, call of duty 2 and 3, ghost recon 1 and 2, gears of war etc. there are also plenty of upcoming shooters which im interested in COD4, hells highway and medal of honor to say just a few.

with the wii, i can only play maybe one of these games (just off the top of my head), and even that has hugely downgraded graphics which for me impacts greatly on the enjoyment of the game.

i expect to see these trends continue throughout this gen, and the next gen after this if nintendo fail to do something about it.

And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

GodHatesYankees

This is why our industry is in the crapper. No one leaves any room for original ideas to come up and shine. Unless it isn't Halo or Half Life or Metal Gear, it's junk. Bravo.

It'll all start on July 30 when Strikers is released, everything shall go uphill from there :)Eponique

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And if the Wiimote is good for FPS'S, then why not Halo and Half-Life calibur games?

Keistation2

This is why our industry is in the crapper. No one leaves any room for original ideas to come up and shine. Unless it isn't Halo or Half Life or Metal Gear, it's junk. Bravo.

well, if it's red steel, it is junk.

How can the wii not produce hardcore games? The ps2 is considerably weaker, andit had tons of them. Or have they suddenly all become casual trash?

the wii can and will give us great games. only a fool would say otherwise.

BuryMe

It's not that it can't deliver hardcore games, it's that Nintendo doesn't want it to.

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How can the wii not produce hardcore games? The ps2 is considerably weaker, andit had tons of them. Or have they suddenly all become casual trash?

the wii can and will give us great games. only a fool would say otherwise.

Gamer46

It's not that it can't deliver hardcore games, it's that Nintendo doesn't want it to.