The Wii should be more powerful, have regular controls and be exactly like...

...the PS3 and 360!!! :roll:

So many people here hate on the Wii because it's less powerful and has motion controls....

So what if it didnt have motion controls, had more power and the same multiplats as the 360/PS3?

We'd essentially have 3 of the same console

Who needs variety :roll:

If the Wii had a decent online set-up id buy one. Im ok with everything else. SSBB is nice, but I don't want to buy the system just for it.

If the Wii had a decent online set-up id buy one. Im ok with everything else. SSBB is nice, but I don't want to buy the system just for it.

Logan832

While I think there is much more to buy the system for, I'll agree with you that Nintendo needs to upgrade the online play dramatically. Stop living in the past Nintendo, WE NEED A GOOD ONLINE SERVICE! It's 2008!

I really hope they announce some voice chat headset and hard drive support, preferably directly through the USB slot or direct access to SD cards. That would be good enough for me.

I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.Spider-Jones

It could have better online, and graphics power and still be different from the 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.Spider-Jones

In terms of prowess and online? Yes. The Wii is weak in both fronts, and I'll be damned I guess if I want it better :?. I find it overly odd conceptually that people wouldn't want the Wii stronger in certain aspects. It's like people are happy that it's not as good as it could be. Sometimes being different doesn't make it "better" in all aspects.

I said it could keep it's controller, which is supposedly it's bread and butter. I don't see how increasing the aforementioned aspects would ruin what makes the system different, which is it's controls.

And when you get down to it Nintendo's software is what makes it's console unique. Even if it was word for word the same as the others it's exclusive content is what makes it a Nintendo system. Sometimes I think fans have lost sight of this.

Yeah I wouldn't like 3 systems that do the same.m_machine024

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.-RPGamer-

In terms of prowess and online? Yes. The Wii is weak in both fronts, and I'll be damned I guess if I want it better :?. I find it overly odd conceptually that people wouldn't want the Wii stronger in certain aspects. It's like people are happy that it's not as good as it could be. Sometimes being different doesn't make it "better" in all aspects.

I said it could keep it's controller, which is supposedly it's bread and butter. I don't see how increasing the aforementioned aspects would ruin what makes the system different, which is it's controls.

And when you get down to it Nintendo's software is what makes it's console unique. Even if it was word for word the same as the others it's exclusive content is what makes it a Nintendo system. Sometimes I think fans have lost sight of this.

While increasing it's power wouldn't detract from it's uniqueness it would mean that the system would cost a fair bit more. If I were to pay another $50 for a Wii then I would rather it had a decent hard-drive rather than improved graphics

I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.-RPGamer-

Yeah, because Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Zack and Wiki, RE4 Wii Edition, and No More Heroes make no use of the Wii's motion-sensing. :roll:

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.Killer_Wuggles

Yeah, because Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Zack and Wiki, RE4 Wii Edition, and No More Heroes make no use of the Wii's motion-sensing. :roll:

The phrases "hardly use it", or "could have been done easily without it" must be overly difficult concepts to some people? :|

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.Popadophalis

In terms of prowess and online? Yes. The Wii is weak in both fronts, and I'll be damned I guess if I want it better :?. I find it overly odd conceptually that people wouldn't want the Wii stronger in certain aspects. It's like people are happy that it's not as good as it could be. Sometimes being different doesn't make it "better" in all aspects.

I said it could keep it's controller, which is supposedly it's bread and butter. I don't see how increasing the aforementioned aspects would ruin what makes the system different, which is it's controls.

And when you get down to it Nintendo's software is what makes it's console unique. Even if it was word for word the same as the others it's exclusive content is what makes it a Nintendo system. Sometimes I think fans have lost sight of this.

While increasing it's power wouldn't detract from it's uniqueness it would mean that the system would cost a fair bit more. If I were to pay another $50 for a Wii then I would rather it had a decent hard-drive rather than improved graphics

I don't really care what it costs, being cheap doesn't make me "OK" with the fact it could have been better. And I wouldn't mind a HDD and more prowess, in fact, the more prowess could benefit from a HDD.

I don't really care what it costs, being cheap doesn't make me "OK" with the fact it could have been better. And I wouldn't mind a HDD and more prowess, in fact, the more prowess could benefit from a HDD.

-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="Popadophalis"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think the Wii should have better visual (and overall ) prowess, as well as, better online. It can keep it's controller, albeit some of it's best games hardly use it, or could have been done easily without it.-RPGamer-

In terms of prowess and online? Yes. The Wii is weak in both fronts, and I'll be damned I guess if I want it better :?. I find it overly odd conceptually that people wouldn't want the Wii stronger in certain aspects. It's like people are happy that it's not as good as it could be. Sometimes being different doesn't make it "better" in all aspects.

I said it could keep it's controller, which is supposedly it's bread and butter. I don't see how increasing the aforementioned aspects would ruin what makes the system different, which is it's controls.

And when you get down to it Nintendo's software is what makes it's console unique. Even if it was word for word the same as the others it's exclusive content is what makes it a Nintendo system. Sometimes I think fans have lost sight of this.

While increasing it's power wouldn't detract from it's uniqueness it would mean that the system would cost a fair bit more. If I were to pay another $50 for a Wii then I would rather it had a decent hard-drive rather than improved graphics

I don't really care what it costs, being cheap doesn't make me "OK" with the fact it could have been better. And I wouldn't mind a HDD and more prowess, in fact, the more prowess could benefit from a HDD.

Sorry dude but not everyone could afford a PS3 even the 360. From the looks of it, you are a rich person. You must be greatful. Also, very few people have HDTVs especially in other countries since it's only USA and EU that's talked about here.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I don't really care what it costs, being cheap doesn't make me "OK" with the fact it could have been better. And I wouldn't mind a HDD and more prowess, in fact, the more prowess could benefit from a HDD.

Bigboi500

Why would I be happy? See here's a common theme I see among people here that I've seen for years. If a person is putting down something, then they are not a fan of it and don't like and/or care about it. It's such a piss poor assumption to make, and it's based off a mentality that views things mostly as boolean imho.

Just b/c i think the system could be better, and that I would be willing to pay more for it, does not in turn mean I don't like it or that I would like Nintendo not to be in the market.

Further more, I didn't say stick to the "old mold" did I? Nope, I said keep what makes the system unique (ie it's games and control) and make it better as a piece of hardware and some of it's online features. You make it sound like a more powerful but still unique Wii would fail, which to me sounds like a lack of confidence in what makes the Wii really unique.

Sorry dude but not everyone could afford a PS3 even the 360. From the looks of it, you are a rich person. You must be greatful. Also, very few people have HDTVs especially in other countries since it's only USA and EU that's talked about here.

lordlors

I'm not rich, I work hard for my hobby.

I know not everyone can afford either/both of the systems mentioned, but I don't agree that a slightly cheaper system that is noticably weaker in prowess and online ability is a better route. I mean if you can save up the $250 to buy a Wii then save a bit more for one that could cost $300-350 is the way I look at it. Realize I don't like the price point of some other current generation systems either, it's somewhat of a joke that one company decided it would double what the standard price for consoles used to be.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I don't really care what it costs, being cheap doesn't make me "OK" with the fact it could have been better. And I wouldn't mind a HDD and more prowess, in fact, the more prowess could benefit from a HDD.

-RPGamer-

Why would I be happy? See here's a common theme I see among people here that I've seen for years. If a person is putting down something, then they are not a fan of it and don't like and/or care about it. It's such a piss poor assumption to make, and it's based off a mentality that views things mostly as boolean imho.

Just b/c i think the system could be better, and that I would be willing to pay more for it, does not in turn mean I don't like it or that I would like Nintendo not to be in the market.

Further more, I didn't say stick to the "old mold" did I? Nope, I said keep what makes the system unique (ie it's games and control) and make it better as a piece of hardware and some of it's online features. You make it sound like a more powerful but still unique Wii would fail, which to me sounds like a lack of confidence in what makes the Wii really unique.

...the PS3 and 360!!! :roll:

So many people here hate on the Wii because it's less powerful and has motion controls....

So what if it didnt have motion controls, had more power and the same multiplats as the 360/PS3?

We'd essentially have 3 of the same console

Who needs variety :roll:

Spider-Jones

The thing is, a lot of the wii's best games dont use the motion controls, use them in a very gimmicky way, or could have been better with a normal controller. Im not saying there arent good motion sensing games but a lot of the games such as brawl would have been better on the 360 or ps3 because of superior graphics.

wth is boolean?Bigboi500

Is it that hard to look up a word? To make it simple it can be summed up as true vs. false.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]wth is boolean?-RPGamer-

Is it that hard to look up a word? To make it simple it can be summed up as true vs. false.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]wth is boolean?Bigboi500

Is it that hard to look up a word? To make it simple it can be summed up as true vs. false.

Is this all you have in response? Some poor attempts at flaming? :?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]wth is boolean?-RPGamer-

Is it that hard to look up a word? To make it simple it can be summed up as true vs. false.

Is this all you have in response? Some poor attempts at flaming? :?

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]wth is boolean?Bigboi500

Is it that hard to look up a word? To make it simple it can be summed up as true vs. false.

Long story short, he's just trying to say you don't see things in shades of grey. You see them as either right or wrong. good or bad. With you or against you, etc, etc.

Though I'm used to hearing it as a binary way of thinking rather than boolean.

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

Sorry dude but not everyone could afford a PS3 even the 360. From the looks of it, you are a rich person. You must be greatful. Also, very few people have HDTVs especially in other countries since it's only USA and EU that's talked about here.

-RPGamer-

I'm not rich, I work hard for my hobby.

I know not everyone can afford either/both of the systems mentioned, but I don't agree that a slightly cheaper system that is noticably weaker in prowess and online ability is a better route. I mean if you can save up the $250 to buy a Wii then save a bit more for one that could cost $300-350 is the way I look at it. Realize I don't like the price point of some other current generation systems either, it's somewhat of a joke that one company decided it would double what the standard price for consoles used to be.

Wow. I have found great respect for you sir for working hard for our hobby which is gaming. I'm still young and can't work but I will be following your steps to working hard for our hobby.

However, you do know that it's very hard to find money in other countries? I live in Phil and you just can't say save up money very easily. Other people are able to game on a much cheaper console such as the wii. Also, the difference of the price of the Wii and PS3/X360 is bigger than those prices in the US and EU. All prices of these consoles are also more expensive here. As i have said, it's only USA and EU that's known and talked about.

I would agree with you with the frustration of the price points of consoles this gen. Too expensive especially with PS3. Video games are becoming more expensive nowadays. Is it because of piracy? Nah...

No just simple honesty. ;)Bigboi500

Well glad that conversation was simple then. :)

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"] No just simple honesty. ;)-RPGamer-

Well glad that conversation was simple then. :)

Wow. I have found great respect for you sir for working hard for our hobby which is gaming. I'm still young and can't work but I will be following your steps to working hard for our hobby.

However, you do know that it's very hard to find money in other countries? I live in Phil and you just can't say save up moneyvery easily. Other people are able to game on a much cheaper console such as the wii. Also, the difference of the price of the Wii and PS3/X360 is bigger than those prices in the US and EU. All prices of these consoles are also more expensive here. As i have said, it's only USA and EU that's known and talked about.

I would agree with you with the frustration of the price points of consoles this gen. Too expensive especially with PS3. Video games are becoming more expensive nowadays. Is it because of piracy? Nah...

lordlors

I see your point of view, and I understand your plight. I guess what I'm saying is that I think many (not all) could handle a slightly higher price, but I don't want it to end like a PS3 situation, or even much of a Xbox 360 type price point. A slightly higher priced system wouldn't be that big of a difference relative to it's current price point, not to mention many could wait for a price drop if it were an issue at what I think would be reasonable for a prowess upgrade.

Look at it this way, we're talking about a system that generated profit out the gate (if memory serves me right), while the competition took hits for each of their units. Instead of gaining they could have increased the prowess and just broke even, but they opted not to do that.

[QUOTE="lordlors"]Wow. I have found great respect for you sir for working hard for our hobby which is gaming. I'm still young and can't work but I will be following your steps to working hard for our hobby.

However, you do know that it's very hard to find money in other countries? I live in Phil and you just can't say save up moneyvery easily. Other people are able to game on a much cheaper console such as the wii. Also, the difference of the price of the Wii and PS3/X360 is bigger than those prices in the US and EU. All prices of these consoles are also more expensive here. As i have said, it's only USA and EU that's known and talked about.

I would agree with you with the frustration of the price points of consoles this gen. Too expensive especially with PS3. Video games are becoming more expensive nowadays. Is it because of piracy? Nah...

-RPGamer-

I see your point of view, and I understand your plight. I guess what I'm saying is that I think many (not all) could handle a slightly higher price, but I don't want it to end like a PS3 situation, or even much of a Xbox 360 type price point. A slightly higher priced system wouldn't be that big of a difference relative to it's current price point, not to mention many could wait for a price drop if it were an issue at what I think would be reasonable for a prowess upgrade.

Look at it this way, we're talking about a system that generated profit out the gate (if memory serves me right), while the competition took hits for each of their units. Instead of gaining they could have increased the prowess and just broke even, but they opted not to do that.

I concur. Nintendo could have made the wii more powerful and have better online system with a slightly higher priced system. Maybe nintendo just gambled with the wii and ds hence the weak hardware. Correct me if i'm wrong but their consoles used to be strong in hardware. I still think the wii could be improved on what it is right now though. We still haven't seen the limitation of its prowess. I still believe there'll be much better looking game. Factor 5 (tech wizards) is making a wii game right now.

Wait is TC saying that it's a good thing Wii has crappy graphics to make it seem like theres more veriaty between the 3 consoles? Thats rediculous. Wii could have great graphics it just needs exclusive games to make it different really.Dahaka-UK

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]wth is boolean?-RPGamer-

Is it that hard to look up a word? To make it simple it can be summed up as true vs. false.

Is this all you have in response? Some poor attempts at flaming? :?

learnt that in Computer Programming the other day.

Here's my reason why the Wii should NOT have had better graphics:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_8tYhjRqm9wo/R9wlbd1K5_I/AAAAAAAAADE/zzsfVhJxwXA/s1600-h/realmario.jpg

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Here's my reason why the Wii should NOT have had better graphics:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_8tYhjRqm9wo/R9wlbd1K5_I/AAAAAAAAADE/zzsfVhJxwXA/s1600-h/realmario.jpg

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farlad

Sweet Jesus that's terrifying.

Here's my reason why the Wii should NOT have had better graphics:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_8tYhjRqm9wo/R9wlbd1K5_I/AAAAAAAAADE/zzsfVhJxwXA/s1600-h/realmario.jpg

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farlad

OMG ,I lol'd so hard :lol: