The Wii will ALWAYS dominate because it applies the same principals as the DS

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#1 dustin-diamond
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The DS and the Wii represent the same philosophy. Cheaper, less advanced hardware; simple, intuitive controls; and smaller games that are easy for anyone to pick up and play. Both are doing phenomenally worldwide.

The PSP and PS3 represent the same philosophy. Expensive, very advanced hardware; large-scale and beautiful, epic games; and extended multi-media functions. Both are lagging behind.



At what point will we admit to ourselves that perhaps console and handheld gaming aren't as diametrically opposed as everyone assumes, and that maybe the DS and PSP were simply harbingers of the performance of next-gen consoles?
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#2 Maelkav
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The Atari Jaguar Will ALWAYS dominate because it applies the same principles as the Atari.

 :?

As much as I love the Wii, dude, this thread fails.

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#3 palaric8
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Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail
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#4 Led___Zeppelin
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The world doesnt work that way. A=B doesnt mean a=b.
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#5 dustin-diamond
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The world doesnt work that way. A=B doesnt mean a=b. Led___Zeppelin
Wii is dominating is sales like the DS so apparantly in this case it does ;)
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#6 Maelkav
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Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail palaric8

 

"The PS2 isn't as advanced at the XBOX, thats the reason why it will fail."

:roll:

Yeah. I remember people who used to say that. It's called an "illogical statement".

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#7 Sonick54
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Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail palaric8
Link to where someone says that please.
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[QUOTE="palaric8"]Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail Maelkav

 

"The PS2 isn't as advanced at the XBOX, thats the reason why it will fail."

:roll:

Yeah. I remember people who used to say that. It's called an "illogical statement".

THE diffence between the wii to ps3,360 is much bigger than ps2 to xbox in fact wii can't run oblivion or UT3. =(
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#9 Maelkav
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[QUOTE="Maelkav"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"]Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail palaric8

 

"The PS2 isn't as advanced at the XBOX, thats the reason why it will fail."

:roll:

Yeah. I remember people who used to say that. It's called an "illogical statement".


THE diffence between the wii to ps3,360 is much bigger than ps2 to xbox
in fact wii can't run oblivion or UT3.
=(

Hmmm. Again, there were a lot of games the PS2 couldn't run. Take your Wii flaming elsewhere. "next-gen" is an overused term that people like you enjoy throwing around because it makes you feel superior. Congrats.

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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"]Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail Maelkav

 

"The PS2 isn't as advanced at the XBOX, thats the reason why it will fail."

:roll:

Yeah. I remember people who used to say that. It's called an "illogical statement".


THE diffence between the wii to ps3,360 is much bigger than ps2 to xbox
in fact wii can't run oblivion or UT3.
=(

Hmmm. Again, there were a lot of games the PS2 couldn't run. Take your Wii flaming elsewhere. "next-gen" is an overused term that people like you enjoy throwing around because it makes you feel superior. Congrats.

see gow II. tell me a wii game arleady released that look better than that. you can't
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The world doesnt work that way. A=B doesnt mean a=b. Led___Zeppelin

You mean A=a and B=b

That's what the topic starter meant.

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Wow... even I am getting sick of these "Wii will win" threads.
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Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail palaric8
The Xbox 360 and PS3 aren't next gen either, won't that mean they'll both fail aswell? Looks like were looking at another Video Game Crash, in that case.
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I don't care if the Wii always dominates. As long as I get strong 1st party games and strong 3rd party games consistantly every year, I'll be satisfied.

Dreamcast dominated no one, and yet it was still fun.

 

lack of domination =/= lack of fun.

 

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[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"]Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail palaric8

"The PS2 isn't as advanced at the XBOX, thats the reason why it will fail."

:roll:

Yeah. I remember people who used to say that. It's called an "illogical statement".


THE diffence between the wii to ps3,360 is much bigger than ps2 to xbox
in fact wii can't run oblivion or UT3.
=(

Hmmm. Again, there were a lot of games the PS2 couldn't run. Take your Wii flaming elsewhere. "next-gen" is an overused term that people like you enjoy throwing around because it makes you feel superior. Congrats.

see gow II. tell me a wii game arleady released that look better than that. you can't

PS2 = 6 Year old system Wii = 6 month old system We know the Wii isn't a massive upgrade over the previous gen but it's barely even got started with it's good looking games.
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Wow... even I am getting sick of these "Wii will win" threads.foxhound_fox
Maybe we need to find something else to argue about... Like Greggs Vs Krispy Kreme Doughnuts.
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[QUOTE="Maelkav"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"]Wii isn't next gen,thats the reason wii will fail palaric8

 

"The PS2 isn't as advanced at the XBOX, thats the reason why it will fail."

:roll:

Yeah. I remember people who used to say that. It's called an "illogical statement".


THE diffence between the wii to ps3,360 is much bigger than ps2 to xbox
in fact wii can't run oblivion or UT3.
=(

PS3 or 360 couldn't run Wario Ware: Smooth Moves.   360 has no motion censing, PS3 doesnt have good motion censing.  They'd have to DOWNGRADE the game to make it adaptable to a normal controller.  Just like Wii would be able to run oblivion if they downagraded the graphics. 

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I disagree Natato, because the same franticly fun gameplay was ORIGINALY done on the GBA. GBA has LESS buttons than a 360 or PS3. Motion sensingh isn't neccesary for a fun WarioWare experience.
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#19 NATATO
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I disagree Natato, because the same franticly fun gameplay was ORIGINALY done on the GBA. GBA has LESS buttons than a 360 or PS3. Motion sensingh isn't neccesary for a fun WarioWare experience.pyoob

Were not talking about the GBA version, we're talking about Wario Ware: SMooth Moves, the exact game, not just any old Wario Ware.  PS3 or 360 couldn't run it without downgrading the game.  It'd be a A game if it came out on PS3 or 360.  Period. 

 

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But what about the fact that the handheld market and the console market are made up of completely different demographics for the most part?

People who buy handhelds and handheld games are mostly different people than who buy consoles and console games. 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Wow... even I am getting sick of these "Wii will win" threads.Teh_Stevz
Maybe we need to find something else to argue about... Like Greggs Vs Krispy Kreme Doughnuts.

well krispy's better but greggs is cheaper, but that doesnt matter i only go to greggs for the sandwiches. :)
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[QUOTE="pyoob"]I disagree Natato, because the same franticly fun gameplay was ORIGINALY done on the GBA. GBA has LESS buttons than a 360 or PS3. Motion sensingh isn't neccesary for a fun WarioWare experience.NATATO

Were not talking about the GBA version, we're talking about Wario Ware: SMooth Moves, the exact game, not just any old Wario Ware.  PS3 or 360 couldn't run it without downgrading the game.  It'd be a A game if it came out on PS3 or 360.  Period. 

 

The gameplay in any WarioWare game has the same principles. Sure, a 360 can't have you make a swinging motion with a sword, but it can make you franticaly try to complete microgames that get fast er as you go. The exact same principles of gameplay can work on any system in the case of WarioWare.

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The world doesnt work that way. A=B doesnt mean a=b. Led___Zeppelin
i know what you're trying to say, but really now, litrally speaking A=B DOES mean a=b :? you should say something like 10 + 20 doesn't equel 1 + 2, but a=b DOES mean a=b
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#24 NATATO
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[QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="pyoob"]I disagree Natato, because the same franticly fun gameplay was ORIGINALY done on the GBA. GBA has LESS buttons than a 360 or PS3. Motion sensingh isn't neccesary for a fun WarioWare experience.pyoob

Were not talking about the GBA version, we're talking about Wario Ware: SMooth Moves, the exact game, not just any old Wario Ware.  PS3 or 360 couldn't run it without downgrading the game.  It'd be a A game if it came out on PS3 or 360.  Period. 

 

The gameplay in any WarioWare game has the same principles. Sure, a 360 can't have you make a swinging motion with a sword, but it can make you franticaly try to complete microgames that get fast er as you go. The exact same principles of gameplay can work on any system in the case of WarioWare.

Same pinciples of Oblivion would be the same if they made a downgraded graphics version for the Wii.  You do the exact same things, but with not as good graphics, thus hurting experience.  WWSM would be the same principles, but with no motion censing, thus hurting the experience. 

Face it WWSM will always be better on Wii, Oblivion will always be better on PS3/360. Don't be sore just becasue some games are just plain better on the Wii.

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[QUOTE="pyoob"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="pyoob"]I disagree Natato, because the same franticly fun gameplay was ORIGINALY done on the GBA. GBA has LESS buttons than a 360 or PS3. Motion sensingh isn't neccesary for a fun WarioWare experience.NATATO

Were not talking about the GBA version, we're talking about Wario Ware: SMooth Moves, the exact game, not just any old Wario Ware.  PS3 or 360 couldn't run it without downgrading the game.  It'd be a A game if it came out on PS3 or 360.  Period. 

 

The gameplay in any WarioWare game has the same principles. Sure, a 360 can't have you make a swinging motion with a sword, but it can make you franticaly try to complete microgames that get fast er as you go. The exact same principles of gameplay can work on any system in the case of WarioWare.

Same pinciples of Oblivion would be the same if they made a downgraded graphics version for the Wii.  You do the exact same things, but with not as good graphics, thus hurting experience.  WWSM would be the same principles, but with no motion censing, thus hurting the experience. 

Face it WWSM will always be better on Wii, Oblivion will always be better on PS3/360. Don't be sore just becasue some games are just plain better on the Wii.

Excellent post, you know what I noticed about these Wii haters, they have no grounds for hating the Wii, all they say is, "Wii is a last gen console" or Nintendo is kiddy, and ..."GEARS OF WAR!!!!!1 graphics own" Honestly, i love the Wii but imma try to tell you my SERIOUS problems with the Wii, I can't find it in any store, A portion of the games are rushed ports and that is it,
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The things people expect from consoles are different from the things they expect from handhelds.

handhelds don't really need to have good graphics, they can be horrible actually and be just fine.

But people expect consoles to have cutting edge technology. They want good visuals, and sound, and they expect that from a new console.

also, handhelds don't really need media features to be succesful.

nowadays, people want a good amount of media features, to add value to thier purchase. 

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#27 Maelkav
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The things people expect from consoles are different from the things they expect from handhelds.

handhelds don't really need to have good graphics, they can be horrible actually and be just fine.

But people expect consoles to have cutting edge technology. They want good visuals, and sound, and they expect that from a new console.

also, handhelds don't really need media features to be succesful. Trading_Zoner

Could've fooled me. PSP keeps telling us that it is superior to the DS because of this exact reason.

nowadays, people want a good amount of media features, to add value to thier purchase. 

Mmmm, not really. People want a good amount of value to add value to their purchase. "Value" is a fluid term that shifts and changes depending on what the market wants. If that was true, PS3 would be the top seller....