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I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad: 1) "Graphics are weak" The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually. 2) "Bad games." OK, I'll bite, Nintendo will allow ANY game on the system, but it's not their fault we have horrible developers. besides that, They have plenty of Good games. Twilight Prncess, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc. 3) "It's for kiddies!" While the Wii's target audience is for younger kids, it appeals to all ages! ASk 70,000,000 customers of the Wii. There are plenty off more mature games on the Wii, like Resident Evil. 4) "Motion controls suck." Use the gamecube controller for some of the games kid.keiferm1I've noticed that that alot of the people that say that about the Wii are the ones that got exited when PSMove came out:?
All that has been said before, and the hate is still here... better save time and accept the Wii is gonna be hated for the rest of this gen.
Wii is such a bad boy!!
3) the its for kiddies argument is just silly....and probably made by kiddies mostly.osan0
I think the Wii is kiddy and I'm not "kiddy". You see, people thinks that "kiddy" is a bad thing, but it's just an appeal. The games are for everyone, they have a kiddy appeal to make it so... is it bad?? not at all.
You have to be very mature to accept this fact and those who say Nintendo games are not kiddy are only fooling themselves. And of course the people who take "kiddy" as a bad thing lack some maturity themselves.
I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad: 1) "Graphics are weak" The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually. 2) "Bad games." OK, I'll bite, Nintendo will allow ANY game on the system, but it's not their fault we have horrible developers. besides that, They have plenty of Good games. Twilight Prncess, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc. 3) "It's for kiddies!" While the Wii's target audience is for younger kids, it appeals to all ages! ASk 70,000,000 customers of the Wii. There are plenty off more mature games on the Wii, like Resident Evil. 4) "Motion controls suck." Use the gamecube controller for some of the games kid.keiferm11. True, the Wii is capable of doing great visuals. Heck, even better than last gen's. 2. There are bad games in every console, no one has to buy them. 3. Don't buy the children games and there are a great number of m-rated games and games for core audience 4. Those who say that are close-minded gamers who wanna stick with the same dated gamepad and are not open-minded for change.
Wii has too many amazing exclusives and innovative niche titles that can't be ignored by anyone that calls themself a real gamer.
anyone who buys a wii nowbrand new would have 2 full years of gaming with just AAE and higher games.
Yes I have a PS3 and gaming PC (mostly used for SC2) and the Wii gets most of my playtime.
I'm also 28 years old. Certainly not a kid.
Why I dislike the Wii: 1. It's an oc'd gamecube. It is, the hardware is the SAME. 2. Graphics look awful, no HD. 3. Wii mote is stupid, it's not needed for ANY game. I wanted to play super mario galaxy 2 with a PS2 controller. 4. The gamecube controller is subpar as well, it's not good for FPS, or racing games. Hell it's not even that good for platformers. 5. I don't like the games, and the online is a joke. 6. The x360 and the PS3, just dominate it, unfortunatley most people are toal noobs and don't know what good games are. Other wise we would see CSS and Quake 3 being the most played games.JigglyWiggly_
Oh yeah... please dictate to us what good games are. Somebody out there might be listening...
Graphics are relative for me, depending on when the system was built. I still love the Sega Genesis's bright and contrasted graphics, and even better with s-video(modded). The PS2 has some amazing contrasted visuals like in Nights for the PS2, I love that game to death. It does the Saturn version justice, unlike the crappy Wii game Nights journey of dreams. The Wii? It came out in like 2006 or something, and none of the games have looked that great.Anyone who cares that much for graphics should have probably abandoned all 3 consoles by now for a PC.
AntiType
[QUOTE="AntiType"]Graphics are relative for me, depending on when the system was built. I still love the Sega Genesis's bright and contrasted graphics, and even better with s-video(modded). The PS2 has some amazing contrasted visuals like in Nights for the PS2, I love that game to death. It does the Saturn version justice, unlike the crappy Wii game Nights journey of dreams. The Wii? It came out in like 2006 or something, and none of the games have looked that great.Anyone who cares that much for graphics should have probably abandoned all 3 consoles by now for a PC.
JigglyWiggly_
Genesis graphics, ps2 graphics > than Wii graphics?
You really just sound like a Wii hater.
Why I dislike the Wii: 1. It's an oc'd gamecube. It is, the hardware is the SAME. 2. Graphics look awful, no HD. 3. Wii mote is stupid, it's not needed for ANY game. I wanted to play super mario galaxy 2 with a PS2 controller. 4. The gamecube controller is subpar as well, it's not good for FPS, or racing games. Hell it's not even that good for platformers. 5. I don't like the games, and the online is a joke. 6. The x360 and the PS3, just dominate it, unfortunatley most people are toal noobs and don't know what good games are. Other wise we would see CSS and Quake 3 being the most played games.JigglyWiggly_1. The Wii is much stronger than the GC, this whole "overclocked GC" has been debunked 2. SMG1+2, Metroid, Last Story, Red steel 2, Darkside chronicles etc. say otherwise. HD makes it shinier and there are beautiful SD games. Wii + HD = fail in market share. 3. Wiimote is innovative. Games are great with it than gamepads. You should be more open-minded for new things instead of being close-minded and sticking to the same old dated gamepad. 4. GC controller? Dont use it 5. Thats your problem regarding the games. And the online, not as good as XBL and PSN, is decent. I own wii for 4 years and own a ps3 as well, I know what Im talking about. 6. Ya.....Right @WhenCicadascry Glad I don't share the same clouded view
-Can't use gamecube controller for every game.MonsieurX
To me it's like saying "this game sucks because it doesn't support an option for lefties"
Motion controls has improved gaming i.e. you can't emmulate certain Wii games like Wii Sports Resort with a gamecube controler.
If it was possible to play all games the exact same way with a GC controler without any gameplay or level design changes, then Wii's control setup would be a pointless gimmick, which it isn't as it's not possible to play Resort with the same level of accuracy, let alone intuitive scheme and as fun. It's just better for some games, period.
[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Why I dislike the Wii: 1. It's an oc'd gamecube. It is, the hardware is the SAME. 2. Graphics look awful, no HD. 3. Wii mote is stupid, it's not needed for ANY game. I wanted to play super mario galaxy 2 with a PS2 controller. 4. The gamecube controller is subpar as well, it's not good for FPS, or racing games. Hell it's not even that good for platformers. 5. I don't like the games, and the online is a joke. 6. The x360 and the PS3, just dominate it, unfortunatley most people are toal noobs and don't know what good games are. Other wise we would see CSS and Quake 3 being the most played games.LastRambo3411. The Wii is much stronger than the GC, this whole "overclocked GC" has been debunked 2. SMG1+2, Metroid, Last Story, Red steel 2, Darkside chronicles etc. say otherwise. HD makes it shinier and there are beautiful SD games. Wii + HD = fail in market share. 3. Wiimote is innovative. Games are great with it than gamepads. You should be more open-minded for new things instead of being close-minded and sticking to the same old dated gamepad. 4. GC controller? Dont use it 5. Thats your problem regarding the games. And the online, not as good as XBL and PSN, is decent. I own wii for 4 years and own a ps3 as well, I know what Im talking about. 6. Ya.....Right @WhenCicadascry Glad I don't share the same clouded view Let's go thru this gaiz! 1. It is, the same emulator with only a few pages of code could play Wii. It IS AN oc'd gamecube. 2. No they look like crap. 3. It's not innovative, it's just a motion sensor, it just makes games like House of the Dead better, that's it. It is NOTHING compared to a mouse & kb or gamepad. 4. Why? Some games are unplayable without it. 5. It's not decent, I couldn't connect to any SSBB games. 6. Well that means you kind of suck at fps if you disagree.
Graphics are relative for me, depending on when the system was built. I still love the Sega Genesis's bright and contrasted graphics, and even better with s-video(modded). The PS2 has some amazing contrasted visuals like in Nights for the PS2, I love that game to death. It does the Saturn version justice, unlike the crappy Wii game Nights journey of dreams. The Wii? It came out in like 2006 or something, and none of the games have looked that great.[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="AntiType"]
Anyone who cares that much for graphics should have probably abandoned all 3 consoles by now for a PC.
AntiType
Genesis graphics, ps2 graphics > than Wii graphics?
You really just sound like a Wii hater.
I am comparing it to time periods. Read the post. It's not acceptable to have awful hardware in 2006. Especially when for sure phones will have much better hardware at the start of 2011. Dual ARM cortex procs that run at ~1.4ghz with 1 gig of ram? The Wii is outclassed by a phone... well not yet, you have 6 months.The thing is, most people suck at games, and the Wii by definition has more sucky players, it's a less hardcore console than anything I've EVER seen. Like let's play CSS and see if you think you can outplay me.
I mean you can see all my pics, I have like limit x-> infinite I don't want to spam this thread... Oh and those 2 pics were from YESTERDAY. I mean I got loads check em here.
http://www.xfire.com/profile/masterchief357/screenshots/?view#103765938
I mean if you are good at games, then your opinion actually matters. If not, no.
I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad: 1) "Graphics are weak" The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually. 2) "Bad games." OK, I'll bite, Nintendo will allow ANY game on the system, but it's not their fault we have horrible developers. besides that, They have plenty of Good games. Twilight Prncess, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc. 3) "It's for kiddies!" While the Wii's target audience is for younger kids, it appeals to all ages! ASk 70,000,000 customers of the Wii. There are plenty off more mature games on the Wii, like Resident Evil. 4) "Motion controls suck." Use the gamecube controller for some of the games kid.keiferm1
Pay no attention to the haters. Every system have good games including the Wii.
I wanna live in a system-hate free world! Which can only happen in a monopoly!keiferm1Just get a pc then. Best of everyone's world. Hell, you can use a wii mote on the pc through BT... not sure why'd you want to.
If you complain the PC is too expensive, then go get a console... and miss out on so much :)
Like my setup for instance :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjQp-ut_0lg
@windsquid* Posting screenshots is pointless.
It gets the point across. Those big numbers apparently don't mean much when you're getting results like that.
* Still, dont buy the bad games and there is a huge number of good games. No excuse, the wii has been out for 4 years
It's still an annoyance to have to make an effort to find the good games among the hordes of the more popular shovelware titles.
* The point is that the Wii has games for every age group
But unfortunately people aren't interested in every type of game in their age group. With this taken into account, the Wii has some very large holes.
LastRambo341
1. The Wii is much stronger than the GC, this whole "overclocked GC" has been debunkedIf I remember correctly, the Wii's GPU is 4 times as powerful as the GC's
2. SMG1+2, Metroid, Last Story, Red steel 2, Darkside chronicles etc. say otherwise. HD makes it sharper and more pleasant to view.There are beautiful SD games (which would look better in HD). Wii + HD = fail in market share.
With a high resolution and AA, even games of lower technical quality tend to "look better" than Wii games. For example, Torchlight:
3. Wiimote is innovative. Games are great with it than gamepads. You should be more open-minded for new things instead of being close-minded and sticking to the same old dated gamepad.
It's all a matter of preference. Some like KB&M controls, some like game pads, and some like motion controls. Also, there's a difference between things sticking around because there haven't been any advancements in that field and things sticking around because they work- the latter being the case with game pads.
5. Thats your problem regarding the games. And the online, not as good as XBL and PSN, is decent. I own wii for 4 years and own a ps3 as well, I know what Im talking about.
When even Wii fanboys call it junk, you know it's junk :P
LastRambo341
[QUOTE="keiferm1"]I wanna live in a system-hate free world! Which can only happen in a monopoly!JigglyWiggly_Just get a pc then. Best of everyone's world. Hell, you can use a wii mote on the pc through BT... not sure why'd you want to.
Except that PC gets hate too...
[QUOTE="keiferm1"]I wanna live in a system-hate free world! Which can only happen in a monopoly!windsquid9000Only the banned see the end of System Wars -windsquid9000
What is this I don't even...
What gets me is SONY fanboys dogging on the Wii's motion controll system, but then drool over the MOVE. Same with Microsoft's Kenect. I just don't get it. If Microsoft and SONY want to copy the Wii, fine, It just makes Nintendo's wii-mote idea look more superior and innovative because of this regarding SONY and Microsoft's actions.
I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad:1) "Graphics are weak" The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually.
===>> TRUE... GRAPHIC ARE WEAK FOR HDTV....BUT NOT SDTV
2) "Bad games." OK, I'll bite, Nintendo will allow ANY game on the system, but it's not their fault we have horrible developers. besides that, They have plenty of Good games. Twilight Prncess, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc.
===>> NOT ALL BAD, BUT TOO CASUAL
3) "It's for kiddies!" While the Wii's target audience is for younger kids, it appeals to all ages! ASk 70,000,000 customers of the Wii. There are plenty off more mature games on the Wii, like Resident Evil.
===>> YES, TOO INOCENT....DONT EXPECT MGS4 IN WII WITH A SOLDIER MAST@R**** ON PLAYBOY MAGAZINE IN SOUTH AMERICAN JUNGLE. RE4 USE TO BE EXCLUSIVE TO GAMECUBE THAT SHINJI MIKAMI SAY HE WILL COMMIT "HARAKIRI" IF IT'S PORTED TO ANOTHER CONSOLE......INDEED RE4 WAS RELEASE ON PS2 AND PC....YET MIKAMI IS STILL ALIVE ...LEAVE CAPCOM AND DIRECT VANQUISH
4) "Motion controls suck." Use the gamecube controller for some of the games kid.
===>> "MOTION CONTROL" will never beat the experince of "MOTION SENSOR" which more appealing to harcore gamers
keiferm1
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]-Can't use gamecube controller for every game.kontejner44
To me it's like saying "this game sucks because it doesn't support an option for lefties"
Motion controls has improved gaming i.e. you can't emmulate certain Wii games like Wii Sports Resort with a gamecube controler.
If it was possible to play all games the exact same way with a GC controler without any gameplay or level design changes, then Wii's control setup would be a pointless gimmick, which it isn't as it's not possible to play Resort with the same level of accuracy, let alone intuitive scheme and as fun. It's just better for some games, period.
I don't think anyone is arguing that a normal pad would be better for Wii Sports, Warioware, Metroid Prime, Zack and Wiki, Trauma Centre, etc. But it is getting really old using it on it's side as a NES pad for many games. That's not a comfy way to play.-Numbers doesn't make games look better. -Can't use gamecube controller for every game.MonsieurXgraphics do not make a gme play better nowdoes it absolutely not its time for you to face the music wiiwas revolutionary graphics was revolutionary only in the n64 era -because it was never done , now its old , 3d hasbeen done , hd wont help the argument that codmw 2 is the most overrated game of the 2009 /2010 year , and clearly nintendo deserves respect not hate! they came out on stage and promised somthin g that so mthin was not graphics thaT SOME THING was they were working hard to get every franchise that hadnt seen a release see one, and they ve done beyond that! they took a chance! sony and ms just slappedon better graphics and fancy services whos paid off ! clearly its nintendos
Yeah fanboys are all hypocrites. You'll get used to it ;) The problem with the Wii is with the sub-HD graphics, weak online support and an abundance of shovelware people tend to pass on it and as a result pass on some really good games.What gets me is SONY fanboys dogging on the Wii's motion controll system, but then drool over the MOVE. Same with Microsoft's Kenect. I just don't get it. If Microsoft and SONY want to copy the Wii, fine, It just makes Nintendo's wii-mote idea look more superior and innovative because of this regarding SONY and Microsoft's actions.
HeavyMetalKirby
Why I dislike the Wii: 1. It's an oc'd gamecube. It is, the hardware is the SAME. 2. Graphics look awful, no HD. 3. Wii mote is stupid, it's not needed for ANY game. I wanted to play super mario galaxy 2 with a PS2 controller. 4. The gamecube controller is subpar as well, it's not good for FPS, or racing games. Hell it's not even that good for platformers. 5. I don't like the games, and the online is a joke. 6. The x360 and the PS3, just dominate it, unfortunatley most people are toal noobs and don't know what good games are. Other wise we would see CSS and Quake 3 being the most played games.JigglyWiggly_
Super Mario Galaxy 2 would be impossible to play with the ps2 controller.
[QUOTE="HeavyMetalKirby"]Yeah fanboys are all hypocrites. You'll get used to it ;) The problem with the Wii is with the sub-HD graphics, weak online support and an abundance of shovelware people tend to pass on it and as a result pass on some really good games.What gets me is SONY fanboys dogging on the Wii's motion controll system, but then drool over the MOVE. Same with Microsoft's Kenect. I just don't get it. If Microsoft and SONY want to copy the Wii, fine, It just makes Nintendo's wii-mote idea look more superior and innovative because of this regarding SONY and Microsoft's actions.
bobcheeseball
Iagree with this. I have at least 40-50 games on the Wii I still have yet to try and I may never try them. It's easy to ditch the shovelware on the system if you try.
The Wii fails to deliver on many fronts. Whether you find those fronts relevant is your own business. A lot of it doesn't matter to me, some of it does. I enjoy my system, the hater's can continue to hate. Since when exactly have the haters ever defined my opinion? Pretty much never. In fact, how many times out of 100 do the hatrs make a comment worth our time? Its a low ratio, trust me . . .
not that we are haters on wii but WII DOES NOT DELIVER WHAT WEE WAANT
and the low price is to lure desperate gamers during global economy meltdown..... but now it's almost over... so get up and spend on HD capable console
not that we are haters on wii but WII DOES NOT DELIVER WHAT WEE WAANT
and the low price is to lure desperate gamers during global economy meltdown..... but now it's almost over... so get up and spend on HD capable console
hippiesanta
The levels of "oh my god, what the hell am I reading", are high. First question, why exactly do you defend the absolutelycrazy decision of releasing gaming consoles for 400+ dollars? Do you like being charged high prices for the ability to play games?
not that we are haters on wii but WII DOES NOT DELIVER WHAT WEE WAANT
and the low price is to lure desperate gamers during global economy meltdown..... but now it's almost over... so get up and spend on HD capable console
hippiesanta
well...i dont have money atm so i beg to differ
[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Why I dislike the Wii: 1. It's an oc'd gamecube. It is, the hardware is the SAME. 2. Graphics look awful, no HD. 3. Wii mote is stupid, it's not needed for ANY game. I wanted to play super mario galaxy 2 with a PS2 controller. 4. The gamecube controller is subpar as well, it's not good for FPS, or racing games. Hell it's not even that good for platformers. 5. I don't like the games, and the online is a joke. 6. The x360 and the PS3, just dominate it, unfortunatley most people are toal noobs and don't know what good games are. Other wise we would see CSS and Quake 3 being the most played games.JigglyWiggly_1. The Wii is much stronger than the GC, this whole "overclocked GC" has been debunked 2. SMG1+2, Metroid, Last Story, Red steel 2, Darkside chronicles etc. say otherwise. HD makes it shinier and there are beautiful SD games. Wii + HD = fail in market share. 3. Wiimote is innovative. Games are great with it than gamepads. You should be more open-minded for new things instead of being close-minded and sticking to the same old dated gamepad. 4. GC controller? Dont use it 5. Thats your problem regarding the games. And the online, not as good as XBL and PSN, is decent. I own wii for 4 years and own a ps3 as well, I know what Im talking about. 6. Ya.....Right @WhenCicadascry Glad I don't share the same clouded view Let's go thru this gaiz! 1. It is, the same emulator with only a few pages of code could play Wii. It IS AN oc'd gamecube. 2. No they look like crap. 3. It's not innovative, it's just a motion sensor, it just makes games like House of the Dead better, that's it. It is NOTHING compared to a mouse & kb or gamepad. 4. Why? Some games are unplayable without it. 5. It's not decent, I couldn't connect to any SSBB games. 6. Well that means you kind of suck at fps if you disagree. * http://thenintendospot.blogspot.com/2009/06/truth-about-wii.html and http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=47538 , debunked * No, they don't. When reviewers say that a certain wii game looks beautiful and a wii hater like you doesn't, its fanboyism. * I guess you're not open-minded for new ideas. Still stuck with the dated controller types. Games like MAdworld for example are better with motion controls. * If the developers step it up, then the controls will be fine. Time to move on to new controllers * SSBB is a bad example. Look at other great online wii games like MH3 for example * I grew up playing Quake, Unreal, CS and Doom. I don't suck at FPS ;)
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