The Wii's bad reputation

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#201 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] You said Sony is specialised in tech when Nintendo has flat-out detroyed them the last two generations in terms of power. If anything its Sony thats tried to be the wannabe. Its wasn't the race to be technology king that caused Nintendo's sales to slide it was their media format, lack of serious online, high license fee's and poor marketing.tomarlyn
When i meant tech, not necessarily power. I meant like DVD, CD music, multimedia stuff etc

You said ''powerful hardware'', so which is it now?

i already said it. Multimedia, DVD, CD music etc. Sony's consoles do otherstuff other than gaming.
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#202 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] When i meant tech, not necessarily power. I meant like DVD, CD music, multimedia stuff etcLastRambo341
You said ''powerful hardware'', so which is it now?

i already said it. Multimedia, DVD, CD music etc. Sony's consoles do otherstuff other than gaming.

You mean like the Wii? The internet, news, wheather, photo and voting channels are not gaming related. More none-gaming features than any other Nintendo system. So you don't think striving to be graphics king was a mistake for them the last two gens?
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#203 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] You said ''powerful hardware'', so which is it now?tomarlyn
i already said it. Multimedia, DVD, CD music etc. Sony's consoles do otherstuff other than gaming.

You mean like the Wii? The internet, news, wheather, photo and voting channels are not gaming related. More none-gaming features than any other Nintendo system. So you don't think striving to be graphics king was a mistake for them the last two gens?

Those aren't "tech stuff", like what I meant. I think they should do whats good for the business and at the same time, care about consumers and expand them. I am satisifed. Why? Because of "games" and "gameplay". Which Nintendo has provided me throughout the years regardless on how weak/powerful their hardware is.
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#204 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] i already said it. Multimedia, DVD, CD music etc. Sony's consoles do otherstuff other than gaming.LastRambo341
You mean like the Wii? The internet, news, wheather, photo and voting channels are not gaming related. More none-gaming features than any other Nintendo system. So you don't think striving to be graphics king was a mistake for them the last two gens?

Those aren't "tech stuff", like what I meant. I think they should do whats good for the business and at the same time, care about consumers and expand them. I am satisifed. Why? Because of "games" and "gameplay". Which Nintendo has provided me throughout the years regardless on how weak/powerful their hardware is.

Thats great to hear but you still avoided the question. Although the extra 50 million customers that have launched them back into 1st place never got an N64 or Gamecube for Nintendo games did they. Wii Sports is the Wii's real system seller, fans will always want the next Mario or Zelda (except me, I'm tired of Mario).

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[QUOTE="keiferm1"]I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad: The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually.

My gun in Killzone 2 probably has more polygons than that.
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#206 keiferm1
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[QUOTE="keiferm1"]I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad: The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually. vegan_cannibal
My gun in Killzone 2 probably has more polygons than that.

If it did, that would waste half their budget.

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[QUOTE="vegan_cannibal"][QUOTE="keiferm1"]I'm tired of all these people who say the Wii is bad: The Wii is capable of 500,000,000 polygons a second. A pretty capable feat actually. keiferm1

My gun in Killzone 2 probably has more polygons than that.

If it did, that would waste half their budget.

My point is, that even talking about the Wii's graphic capabilities when comparing it to a PS3 or Xbox 360 is stupidity. I would probably equate Wii's "polygon power" to that of a PSP or an Apple Lisa.
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#208 keiferm1
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Let me mull that over 4 a second, PSP has less than 100,000,000 polygons a second.

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#209 keiferm1
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FAR LESS THAN 100,000,000 polygons, like I shouldve said less than 20 million.

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#210 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Who siad the Wii is capable of 500mp plygns/s? thats the HD consoles lol. Wii is around 120m plygns/s unshaded. It drops down significantly from that number when other things are added to the mix.

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The specs say that it displays 500M P/s

the wii has a pixel fillrate of 500million not 500m polygons.

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The only system I regret buying.
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#212 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] You mean like the Wii? The internet, news, wheather, photo and voting channels are not gaming related. More none-gaming features than any other Nintendo system. So you don't think striving to be graphics king was a mistake for them the last two gens?tomarlyn

Those aren't "tech stuff", like what I meant. I think they should do whats good for the business and at the same time, care about consumers and expand them. I am satisifed. Why? Because of "games" and "gameplay". Which Nintendo has provided me throughout the years regardless on how weak/powerful their hardware is.

Thats great to hear but you still avoided the question. Although the extra 50 million customers that have launched them back into 1st place never got an N64 or Gamecube for Nintendo games did they. Wii Sports is the Wii's real system seller, fans will always want the next Mario or Zelda (except me, I'm tired of Mario).

Which question?
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#213 locopatho
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Yes, I know that the HD consoles have better support but that does not automatically mean that the Wii has a terrible one. Think of it like this : HD (9/10 support) , Wii (8/10 support). We don't see them, like you said, because the devs don't step up. The Wii does not make its own games.

Wii4Fun


Actually... its more like this (over the course of the entire generation):

360 (10/10)
PS3 (9/10)
Wii (7.5-8/10)

For every 5-7 great third party games the 360/PS3 get, the Wii gets maybe 1-2. And even then, they are not the same games available on the 360/PS3, but exclusives (which don't make them better, or more worth owning).

Fixed.

Do you people seriously think gaming would be more interesting if Nintendo tries to be like Sony and MS? You want three gaming companies that are alike, yet you complain about there not being enough variety in games.

The day nintendo becomes like the competition is the day gaming starts to really suck.

Note. I am not dissing Sony or MS. I think their systems have great games.

PS2 is one of my all time favorite consoles.

So don't call me a fanboy! :x

8/10 for Wii 3rd party support??? No goddam way. Not ONE of the biggest and best 3rd party devs supports the dang thing properly, it lacks entire genres that are standard on just about every halfway decent console ever, there's frightening amounts of crap to middling games, and many of even the GOOD 3rd party games have random flaws that hinder them, such as Little King Story, a strategic game about moving troops around the screen, doesn't even use IR!? or are better on other consoles. The Wii does get some good 3rd party games but doesn't get anything NEAR the 3rd party support of 360, PS3, PS2, SNES, NES, etc.