The Witcher 2 pirated 4.5 million times

How did he come up with that number ? If they could have been seeders most of the time o.o

How did he come up with that number ?

Joedgabe

Seems legit.

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How did he come up with that number ?

GeneralShowzer

Seems legit.

Seems like the person is calculating a lot based on hunches and guesses... what I meant to ask was solid evidence not speculation. It might have been calculated but I think this number might be a stretch.

Shows that wise devs don't care about piracy at all and instead concentrate on what really matters: those customers that do pay.

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

How many of those were the 360 version?lowe0

The 360 version hasn't been released yet :?

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

nameless12345

They do, I think this is a bit of a set up. Nobody would make such calculation based on speculation and call it a fact to go on to make decisions such as making PC games would be a waste. Honestly.... the game wasn't so good that 4.5m would download it :P

How many people pirated pokemon? and yet look at all the copies it has sold world wide :o

The game's not worth it eh? :P

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

nameless12345

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.Pug-Nasty

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

nameless12345

the final act was way too rushed.

disclaimer - i do not endorse piracy. i purchased my game legally.

That really sucks. I can understand why other developers put some type of DRM to try to fight piracy.istreakforfood

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.

Pug-Nasty

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :Pnameless12345

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.Hexagon_777

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

nameless12345

Hey, I'm right here.

How does the game being pirated affect the fact that it sold over a million copies in 6 months?

Demon souls ont he PS3 sold 400,00 thousand copies, Ps3 must be pirated way worse than the PC!

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.

GeneralShowzer

tsk tsk, such a sad thing, i guess it has to be popular for it to have been downloaded that many times, but seriously, if these people cant wait for the game to go on sale for less than 25 bucks then they really shouldnt be gamers

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]That really sucks. I can understand why other developers put some type of DRM to try to fight piracy.GeneralShowzer

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.

Pug-Nasty

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.

Pug-Nasty

Shows that wise devs don't care about piracy at all and instead concentrate on what really matters: those customers that do pay.

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

Kinthalis

Hey, I'm right here.

How does the game being pirated affect the fact that it sold over a million copies in 6 months?

Demon souls ont he PS3 sold 400,00 thousand copies, Ps3 must be pirated way worse than the PC!

A new IP sales with a lower user base against a sequels sales with a high userbase, not really a fair comparison :?

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :PHexagon_777

tsk tsk, such a sad thing, i guess it has to be popular for it to have been downloaded that many times, but seriously, if these people cant wait for the game to go on sale for less than 25 bucks then they really shouldnt be gamers

linkin_guy109

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tsk tsk, such a sad thing, i guess it has to be popular for it to have been downloaded that many times, but seriously, if these people cant wait for the game to go on sale for less than 25 bucks then they really shouldnt be gamers

Deathtransit

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

tsk tsk, such a sad thing, i guess it has to be popular for it to have been downloaded that many times, but seriously, if these people cant wait for the game to go on sale for less than 25 bucks then they really shouldnt be gamers

Deathtransit

If these numbers are accurate it's a damn shame.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

Jack-o-Thompson

Hey, I'm right here.

How does the game being pirated affect the fact that it sold over a million copies in 6 months?

Demon souls ont he PS3 sold 400,00 thousand copies, Ps3 must be pirated way worse than the PC!

A new IP sales with a lower user base against a sequels sales with a high userbase, not really a fair comparison :?

Are you saying there are more PC gamers than PS3 gamers?

Because you're right, but on the other hand the Witcher 1 wasn't very popular, and Demon Souls had WAY more marketing than the Witcher 2 had behind it.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Sooo, where are now those people who claimed that PC exclusives sell great if they're well-made ? :P

Jack-o-Thompson

Hey, I'm right here.

How does the game being pirated affect the fact that it sold over a million copies in 6 months?

Demon souls ont he PS3 sold 400,00 thousand copies, Ps3 must be pirated way worse than the PC!

A new IP sales with a lower user base against a sequels sales with a high userbase, not really a fair comparison :?

We can use The Witcher 1 and it would still beat demons souls :P

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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

How did he come up with that number ?

Joedgabe

Seems legit.

Seems like the person is calculating a lot based on hunches and guesses... what I meant to ask was solid evidence not speculation. It might have been calculated but I think this number might be a stretch.

These pirates aren't going to like it much when cloud streaming takes over. Ha.

These pirates aren't going to like it much when cloud streaming takes over. Ha.

Vari3ty

I said it once and i ll say it twice; start USING BLU RAY DISC for pc gaming, I KNOW IT MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED, but if you own a 1K pc then you probably have money to buy games, but downloading is easier right? what about if the download was 45gb> ? would you wait a full day to play that game you wanted or would you go to the store and get it? more people would just buy it. Also i dont care just put uncompressed audio or whatever BUT MAKE IT BIG !Solid_Tango

They would still pirate. They're still getting a free game, extending downloads would only be a minor inconvenience. That would also hurt legit sales for the same reason.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

What excuse to pirates have for pirating a game with no DRM? That seems like a strange question to me.

Hexagon_777

I knew one guy who pirated PC games because he couldn't buy them too often. He only purchased one BF game I think. I knew another guy who at least said that he pirated games to try them before buying them. I don't know how truthful he was being.

Neither of those people are these types of pirates, nor does that excuse make any sense to begin with. I dislike your DRM, so I'll steal your game, thus justifying the existence of your DRM?

I said it once and i ll say it twice; start USING BLU RAY DISC for pc gaming, I KNOW IT MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED, but if you own a 1K pc then you probably have money to buy games, but downloading is easier right? what about if the download was 45gb> ? would you wait a full day to play that game you wanted or would you go to the store and get it? more people would just buy it. Also i dont care just put uncompressed audio or whatever BUT MAKE IT BIG !Solid_Tango

On topic: People who pirated this games are nothing but cheapskates, specially a game that has a drm free version on GOG. I did my part, hell i even introduced 3 of my friends to the witcher series.

I said it once and i ll say it twice; start USING BLU RAY DISC for pc gaming, I KNOW IT MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED, but if you own a 1K pc then you probably have money to buy games, but downloading is easier right? what about if the download was 45gb> ? would you wait a full day to play that game you wanted or would you go to the store and get it? more people would just buy it. Also i dont care just put uncompressed audio or whatever BUT MAKE IT BIG !Solid_Tango

This is hilarious!

On topic: People who pirated this games are nothing but cheapskates, specially a game that has a drm free version on GOG. I did my part, hell i even introduced 3 of my friends to the witcher series.Dante2710

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Free games ? Pug-Nasty

I knew one guy who pirated PC games because he couldn't buy them too often. He only purchased one BF game I think. I knew another guy who at least said that he pirated games to try them before buying them. I don't know how truthful he was being.

Neither of those people are these types of pirates, nor does that excuse make any sense to begin with. I dislike your DRM, so I'll steal your game, thus justifying the existence of your DRM?

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

How did he come up with that number ?

GeneralShowzer

Seems legit.

And yet, the developers can't prove that they've lost ANY money as a result of the pirating. I could have several games that I want downloaded by the end of the week...all for free. But instead, I buy my games, because it's easier to just buy them, and I'm an interested buyer in the first place.

The people pirating these games obviously aren't interested buyers...otherwise they would have bought it in the first place.

Nothing was stolen from the developers. Stores aren't missing copies of The Witcher 2. In effect, these "numbers" are completely meaningless, because they prove absolutely nothing.