The worst/best thing done from Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo?

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#1 Wesrcks13
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Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo made mistakes, and they also did great things whats the best and worst thing they have done?
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#2 mariokart97
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The worst mistake Nintendo made was giving away Rare :cry:

I always loved the Old Rareware games

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#3 mitu123
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Nintendo

Best: NES

Worst: Virtual Boy

Microsoft

Best: Xbox Live

Worst: RROD

Sony

Best: PS1

Worst: E3 2006

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Worst: E3 2006

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Giant Crab Enemy,right?

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#5 surrealnumber5
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nintendo

best: software

worst: online

microsoft

best: online

worst: hardware

sony

best: third party

worst: PS3

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#6 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Worst: E3 2006

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That with RIIIIIDGE Racer and more.

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#7 gammon56
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microsoft best: xbox live worst: rrod sony no authority i will not be a fanboy best n64 worst wii here come the sheep :)
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#8 Ross_the_Boss6
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Microsoft-

Best: Xbox Live

Worst: RROD

Sony-

Best: PS2

Worst: 600 US Dollars

Nintendo-

Best: N64

Worst: E3 Shows after the release of the Wii

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[QUOTE="gammon56"] wii best n64 worst wii

Der? what does that mean?
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#10 Hahadouken
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I'm just focusing on worst, I could go on all day about the great things about any of them, spanning back at least two generations in the case of 360, and many more in the case of Nintendo. Plus, SW is all about negativity!



Nintendo: Losing sight of their core audience, in favor of casuals. Selling out completely. Pimping out their core franchises to the Nth degree. Horrible showings at trade shows and conventions.

Sony: Arrogance prior to PS3's launch. A weak PS3 launch lineup. Many marketing missteps and blunders. A very steep price point. For a long time, multiplats were visibly inferior. The decision to leave rumble out of SIXAXIS controllers.

Microsoft: Absolute nonsense with their peripheral devices; overpriced, incompatible, difficult to use, many of them are now discontinued. Paying for timed exclusives in favor of creating new IPs. Rushing their product out to beat the competition caused massive hardware problems. An apparent overemphasis on the bottom line.




I love all the companies, but Ninty has completely turned me off this gen. MS as a company has pulled some sheisty stuff, Sony has made a bunch of boneheaded mistakes this gen, but I love both the PS3 and the 360.

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#11 gammon56
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[QUOTE="gammon56"] wii best n64 worst wii surrealnumber5
Der? what does that mean?

ohhh oops n64= best wii=worst
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#12 farnham
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The worst mistake Nintendo made was giving away Rare :cry:

I always loved the Old Rareware games

mariokart97
but was it a mistake for them or a mistake for rare and microsoft.. it looks like an extremely clever decision since rare has totally failed after they left nintendo..
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#13 farnham
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="gammon56"] wii best n64 worst wii gammon56
Der? what does that mean?

ohhh oops n64= best wii=worst

obviously n64 is the worst since it was the console that brought nintendo into a big slump.. nes is the best since it brought nintendo to the throne in the first place..
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#14 eveileb-ekam
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The best thing that Nintendo has done (this generation) has been to expand the base of software users. Although the market is truly divided at the moment, they have taken the industry towards a healthier destination, just as Sony did before them. If the path continues to the point where everyone is able to play a game they like, just as everyone can watch a film or read a book they like, well... that would be a very good thing. Plus they made Super Mario Galaxy.

The worst thing they have done is to underestimate the importance of a decent online infrastructure and to not make their console at least partially future proof. A better online platform could have prepared them for wider internet usage. Currently, the PS3 and 360 have account systems that are easily transferrable. As of now, there is no system in place for downloadable content on Nintendo's platform, which leads to a worrying future. This, also combined with a seeming lack of support for online modes, an increasing importance. It would have been nice if Nintendo's system was also able to at least partially match their competitors. The emulators can do 720p, and some Wii games really look beautiful at that resolution.

The worst thing Sony could do was to let their arrogance and market leadership get the better of their sensibilities. It was as if they learnt nothing from Nintendo's monumentous mistakes, and they decided to release a system that simply was not ready. With the success of the Wii, and the continued relevence of the PS2, Sony should have released a cheaper system later on, something akin to the Slim, and should have perfected and marketed the Eye and Arc peripherals from the start to guarantee success. As it is, they are constantly playing catch up.

The best thing they did is invest so much into third and second parties to produce some really good new IPs for this generation. Unlike Nintendo, Sony prove that they are able to think forward and generate properties that are as big, and bigger, than the things that they had before. Both approaches are good, but it is difficult not to appreciate Sony's library.

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Microsoft :

Best : Halo and Xbox Live

Worst : RRoD

Sony :

Best : CD based gaming system PS1

Worst : PS3 and PSPGO (E3 2006 was so funny you cant really say anything negative about it :P)

Nintendo :

Best : N64, Best System EVER / leting Retro studios do Metroid Prime

Worst : Virtual Boy / Selling off Raresoft

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#16 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="mariokart97"]

The worst mistake Nintendo made was giving away Rare :cry:

I always loved the Old Rareware games

farnham
but was it a mistake for them or a mistake for rare and microsoft.. it looks like an extremely clever decision since rare has totally failed after they left nintendo..

Although not up to the past glory of Rare's history, their current generation and late previous gen games are not exactly bad. If Nintendo had kept Rare on, it would have greatly benefitted from Perfect Dark, Kameo, Banjo and Viva Pinata. They would have complimented the Wii's library nicely.
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Nintendo Best: SNES Worst: Gamecube Microsoft: Best: They are the kings of software. There isn't much they can't do. Worst: Letting RROD get out of hand. Sony: Best: PS2 Worst: Their arrogance, and they way they treat their users. They believe they are the best, regardless of proof showing otherwise. They believe their products cannot fail. Try explaining to an egocentric CS agent at Sony that your Sony product doesn't work, and they laugh at you, and say, "PS brand products are made by God. They cannot break down. Go buy moar, and inflate our PS2 numbers moar."
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#18 farnham
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I'm just focusing on worst, I could go on all day about the great things about any of them, spanning back at least two generations in the case of 360, and many more in the case of Nintendo. Plus, SW is all about negativity!



Nintendo: Losing sight of their core audience, in favor of casuals. Selling out completely. Pimping out their core franchises to the Nth degree. Horrible showings at trade shows and conventions.

Sony: Arrogance prior to PS3's launch. A weak PS3 launch lineup. Many marketing missteps and blunders. A very steep price point. For a long time, multiplats were visibly inferior. The decision to leave rumble out of SIXAXIS controllers.

Microsoft: Absolute nonsense with their peripheral devices; overpriced, incompatible, difficult to use, many of them are now discontinued. Paying for timed exclusives in favor of creating new IPs. Rushing their product out to beat the competition caused massive hardware problems. An apparent overemphasis on the bottom line.




I love all the companies, but Ninty has completely turned me off this gen. MS as a company has pulled some sheisty stuff, Sony has made a bunch of boneheaded mistakes this gen, but I love both the PS3 and the 360.

Hahadouken

nintendo never had a core audience the core audience always shunned nintendo as kiddy and as far as kiddy goes nintendo is being the best console for it this gen so your argument fails

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#19 SolidTy
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I'm just going to talk about the good stuff.:P

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Xbox : Xbox Live, Halo series

Sony : Twin Analog Scheme standard in gaming, Amazing 1st Party

Nintendo : Dpad popularity created standard in gaming, Strong 1st Party

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#20 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="mariokart97"]

The worst mistake Nintendo made was giving away Rare :cry:

I always loved the Old Rareware games

eveileb-ekam
but was it a mistake for them or a mistake for rare and microsoft.. it looks like an extremely clever decision since rare has totally failed after they left nintendo..

Although not up to the past glory of Rare's history, their current generation and late previous gen games are not exactly bad. If Nintendo had kept Rare on, it would have greatly benefitted from Perfect Dark, Kameo, Banjo and Viva Pinata. They would have complimented the Wii's library nicely.

really..? how much did those games sell.. i belive all rare games combined after the microsoft buyout didnt even reach mario kart wii or wii fit sales
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ninty: best: setting themselves apart in the market. nice to have a console that does something different to the norm. worst: quality control. usually im against a company cutting projects because it doesnt fit a "portfolio" or some such nonsense. but theres a limit. there are many games on the wii that should never have been allowed to exist and there are some devs on the wii that..well...have no business being in the games industry...to put it mildly. sony: best: PSN. yes it may lack a few features from live but it works, its reliable, it gets the job done, PS store is quite nice and its free. win win. worst: absolutely no focus on what the PS3 is. even now they dont know what to do with it going by their PR (i just does everything my backside). they made so many stupid decisions and put so many eggs in the PS3s basket that the whole thing just fell apart. MS: best: i cant really think of anything. im sure they have done some great stuff but nothing really springs out. the 360 sorta feels like business as usual for MS. worst: has to be RROD. hardware is not software MS..you cant patch hardware. next time test it properly before release.
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#22 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="farnham"] but was it a mistake for them or a mistake for rare and microsoft.. it looks like an extremely clever decision since rare has totally failed after they left nintendo..

Although not up to the past glory of Rare's history, their current generation and late previous gen games are not exactly bad. If Nintendo had kept Rare on, it would have greatly benefitted from Perfect Dark, Kameo, Banjo and Viva Pinata. They would have complimented the Wii's library nicely.

really..? how much did those games sell.. i belive all rare games combined after the microsoft buyout didnt even reach mario kart wii or wii fit sales

Of course they didnt, there isnt much that can compete with those mammoth numbers. If Nintendo had Rare still as a second party, it would have marketted those games as much as their own. Besides, I was talking from a gamer perspective, not a business one.
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Nintendo

Best - The Zelda series

Worst - The unbearable Pokemon merchandise craze of the late 90's. It made me loathe the whole franchise, regardless of how good the games were.

Sony

Best - pretty much defining the late 90's in gaming

Worst - Ken Kutaragi turning insane

Microsoft

Best - Offering the best online gaming service for any console

Worst - Ruining Alan Wake

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Sony: Worst: Arc/Eye Toy/PS3, Best: PS2 and PS1,

MS: Worst: Natal/killing Xbox originals/XBL, Best: Xbox 1,

Nintendo: Worst: Virtual boy/power glove, Best: All their systems

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Nintendo

Best - The Zelda series

Worst - The unbearable Pokemon merchandise craze of the late 90's. It made me loathe the whole franchise, regardless of how good the games were.

Sony

Best - pretty much defining the late 90's in gaming

Worst - Ken Kutaragi turning insane

Microsoft

Best - Offering the best online gaming service for any console

Worst - Ruining Alan Wake

Menalque2

i kinda lol'd

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#26 ElTriforceo
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Strictly this gen....

M$

Best- Xbox Live

Worst- RROD

Sony

Best- 2009 lineup

Worst- Charging $600 for a console and expecting to to sell....

Wii

Best- Super Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3... pretty much all first party titles....

Worst- E3 2008... I'm still having nightmares....

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Ninty: Best: NES Worst: Rare ordeal MS: Best: Xbox Live Worst: RROD Sony: Best: PS2 Worst: Early PS3 years in many ways
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Sony: Best: PS2 Worst: Keeping the PS2 around to compete with the PS3 Microsoft: Best: Announcing Natal (if done right) Worst: RROD Nintendo: Best: SNES Worst: Forcing the Wiimote/Nunchuck on gamers

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Playstation Best: Bluray Playstation Worst: .....??? Nintendo best: Motion control Nintendo worst: Lame third party games Microsoft Best: 360 Microsoft Worst: 360
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#30 VendettaRed07
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Best:

Nintendo- Dpad/two button nes controller.

Sony- Dvd in ps2

MS-XBL

Worst:

Nintendo- Cartridges in the n64

Sony- 599$ USD!!!

MS-RROD

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I'll jsut do Nintendo

Best=Anolog/D-pad

Worst=not going with CDs. We may not have a Playstation brand if they did.

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RIIIIIIIIIDDDDGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE RRRAACCCERRRR *Crickets* lol 599!! 599!!! 599!!!!! Oh god they were good times lol
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"]Playstation Best: Bluray Playstation Worst: .....??? Nintendo best: Motion control Nintendo worst: Lame third party games Microsoft Best: 360 Microsoft Worst: 360

I lol'd ___________________ Ninty worse: cadtridges for N64. For this gen: lack of quality control on 3rd parties. Best: OoT. This gen: Metroid Trilogy Sony: worse: 4D, 120FPS and 1080p with dual HDMI @ 599$ Best: dual analog+great controller. MS: Best: ....??? Halo?? Worse: massive engineering fail with the 360. (reliability wise)
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Microsoft Best: Xbox Live Worst: Closing down Ensemble Studios Nintendo Best: Singlehandedly revived the industry with the NES and Super Mario Bros. Worst: Arrogance during the N64 era Sony Best: Playstation caused the entire industry to grow up to a mature audience Worst: Fell into the same trap as Nintendo during the N64 era
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Microsoft Best: XBL Worst: RROD Nintendo Best: First Party titles still maintaining high quality with a few exceptions. (Hint: Wii Music.) Worst: E3 2008. I was so disappointed. Sony best: PS2 Worst: PS3 Launch
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I'll stick with this gen

Nintendo

Best: Broadened the gaming industry

Worst: Focus way too much on casual gaming

Microsoft

Best: Cutting edge online service

Worst: RRoD, E74

Sony:

Best: Amazing exclusives with a lot of variety

Worst: Ridiculous price point in the beginning, one of the most embarrassing E3 showcases ever ('06?)

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Nintendo

Best: Introducing new crowd to gaming.

Worst: Introducing motion controls to gaming. :(

MS

Best: Advance online service.

Worst: Falling for motion contols. :(

Sony

Best: Investing in creative new IPs.

Worst: Falling for motion controls. :(

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#38 sleepingzzz
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Sony

Best - Stop using cartridges

Absolute Worst - PS3 Fanboys

Nintendo

Very Best - SNES

Worst - Wii

Microsoft

Best - Ease of game development

Worst - Pay for online

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Sony: Vaguely phallic imagery
Microsoft: Betray PC gaming in favor of the 360.

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Microsoft

Best: Xbox Live Marketplace

Worst: Quality Control before 2005 launch

Sony

Best: First party devs

Worst: PS3 launch price

Nintendo

Best/Worst: the Wii

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MS -

Best: Online/Achievements

Worst: Hardware Quality

Nintendo -

Best: Innovative Designs/Thinking

Worst: Terrible Online System

Sony -

Best:Good varied 1st Party library (speaking of existing and coming soon titles)

Worst: Innovation (or lack of), Lying (promises not kept, and ridiculous claims)... likes to recycle everyone elses ideas, and pass them off as their own. Trophies, PS Wiimot... errr... PS Move, Sixaxis (lol), 4D, 1080p @ 120fps (lol)... also... Giant Enemy Crabs.

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#42 SilverChimera
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N

  • Best - N64
  • Worst - online play

MS

  • Best - Xbox Live
  • Worst - reliability/pricing of accessories

Sony

  • Best - PlayStation
  • Worst - E3 2006
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#43 Lantern-Cusp
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Sony:

best - ps3 ( ground breaking innovative exclusive games, constantly setting the bar )
worst - psp go ( making MGS5 psp exclusive )

Microsoft:

best - xbox ( the 1st Halo,mmm oh do i miss it )
worst - 360 ( dodgy unreliable console, boring games )

Nintendo:

best - SNES ( must I even say? )
worst - rail shooters for Wii

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MS--------best: Halo, xbox live____worst: rrod

SONY-----best: PS2____________worst: $599

Nintendo-best: ******_________worst: wii

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Microsoft:

Best: Introducing a good online system for the home consoles.

Worst: RRoD, shutting down Ensemble Studios, and making Rare a shadow of its former self.

Sony:

Best: Popularizing the disc format in home consoles, challenging Nintendo in areas it was very dominant before (both handheld and home consoles).

Worst: Overconfidence after their success with the PS2 and releasing the PS3 with a $600 price tag. They have also flip-flopped a lot this generation with their release of Sixaxis, and then Dualshock 3, and now the Playstation Move.

Nintendo:

Best: Hiring Shigeru Miyamoto.

Worst: Signing a contract with Sony that basically gave Sony complete control over any and all titles released for the SNES-CD and then backing out of the deal and instead making a new CD deal with Philips. Sony decided to use the technology they had developed to spawn what we now know as the Playstation. Nearly all of Nintendo's third party support followed suit and then the rest is history.

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Am i the only one who thought that Microsoft's stupidest decision was backstabbing PC gamers?

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#47 monson21502
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ms funded online gaming to where it istoday. they proved that amican console can do pretty good even when the japanese people turn a blind eye to a console.

nintendo got alot of us started

sony got alot of us started again with the ps1 with its more adult games.

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#48 OneLazyAsian
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Am i the only one who thought that Microsoft's stupidest decision was backstabbing PC gamers?

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Well they don't get that much (if any) royalities from PC games. So you can make an argument that MS never backstabbed PC game because MS never had interest in the first place.

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#49 flashn00b
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[QUOTE="flashn00b"]

Am i the only one who thought that Microsoft's stupidest decision was backstabbing PC gamers?

OneLazyAsian

Well they don't get that much (if any) royalities from PC games. So you can make an argument that MS never backstabbed PC game because MS never had interest in the first place.

Before 2007 happened, most of Microsoft's companies were mainly focused on the PC. Last PC game published by Microsoft was Gears of War. so yes, i do believe that may fall under betrayal.