The Xbox 360 is a rip off compared to the PS3.

When i buy a video game console, a "slick metallic case" is definetly a selling point. /sarcasm

yes your right... the first thing i do before i buy a console is to inspect case quality. this thread is full of WIN!2scoopsofempty

No,I don't actually care about case quality.

I am just saying that since there is a cheap case and cheap parts in the 360, it is an outrage that they are charging $350 for this kid's toy.

PS3 has higher quality parts and it just $50 more. Why would anyone even buy a 360.....

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

360's GPU is more advanced then ps3 + the case is cheap? mine is made of solid white plastic....just coz it isnt shiney like ps3 doesnt mean its cheap.....i payed 280 quids for that machine nearly 2 years ago and it has given me hundreds of hours of fun coz of its awesome games

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]yes your right... the first thing i do before i buy a console is to inspect case quality. this thread is full of WIN!KittyKatB

No,I don't actually care about case quality.

I am just saying that since there is a cheap case and cheap parts in the 360, it is an outrage that they are charging $350 for this kid's toy.

PS3 has higher quality parts and it just $50 more. Why would anyone even buy a 360.....

because it has better games? ::shruggs::

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]yes your right... the first thing i do before i buy a console is to inspect case quality. this thread is full of WIN!KittyKatB

No,I don't actually care about case quality.

I am just saying that since there is a cheap case and cheap parts in the 360, it is an outrage that they are charging $350 for this kid's toy.

PS3 has higher quality parts and it just $50 more. Why would anyone even buy a 360.....

Not to play games, that's for sure.

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

p.s enjoy watching your movies and playing your ga.. oh wait

[QUOTE="KittyKatB"]Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
dipper145

$399*

People make the games argument,but the fact is,all the good 360 games are done and everyone is past them now.

Halo 3? - Boring. CoD 4's online is much better.

Orange Box? - Better on PC.

CoD 4? - On PS3 and PC,with free online and more than 16 player matches.

Those are the only good 360 games that came out this year. Every good multiplat and exclusive is now coming to the PC and PS3.

There is no point in owning the kid's toy known as the 360.

Give up guys. Just go home and sell your 360s and buy a real machine.

Okay, now you're just flamebaiting. Not cool. Come up with some valid arguments, then maybe 5% of people will take you seriously.BioShockOwnz

So claiming that a 360 is cheaply made isn't a valid arguement? Haha,okay....

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

Why are you paying more for a Blu Ray player that doesn't make the games any longer than X360 games, or a CPU and GPU that doesn't make the games graphically better than what's seen on X360?

Since I dont care about Xbox360 Ill say this:

After MGS4/FF come out and PS3 is at 300 euros I MAY consider buying it...

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

Maybe if you had an ounce of credibility, I may have taken what you said as constructive.

only reasons why 360 is rip off are;

1. M$ made

2.Rrod

3. xbox live

4. addons cost too much. hardrive for example

5. No hardrive on a lower models

6. questionable life cycle

7. Ms doesn't seems like to support their systems after a certain time period.(xbox)

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

only reasons why 360 is rip off are;

1. M$ made

2.Rrod

3. xbox live

4. addons cost too much. hardrive for example

5. No hardrive on a lower models

6. questionable life cycle

7. Ms doesn't seems like to support their systems after a certain time period.(xbox)

ff7isnumbaone

Maybe because the XBOX was a failure? Do you really think that if the PS2 sold 30,000,000 and the XBOX sold 120,000,000 Sony would have continued the PS2?

When i buy a video game console, a "slick metallic case" is definetly a selling point. /sarcasm

3dbullseye

i agree its about the games not the way the system looks. no offence to any 360fans here, but the 360 just did not have the games i like to play. i play rpgs like no other, with a side of shooting. and the 360 had the shooter side...but little else. it just didnt have a strong rpg library on the way like the ps3 does. (final fantasy + disgaea+ persona)

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

KittyKatB

Blu-ray player =/= game console.

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

ThePlothole

case and point, the price. its justification for a higher price.

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

KittyKatB

Forza 2, DOA 4, Mass Effect, Ace Combat 6, Dead Rising, Kameo, and PGR4 say hello :)

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

GlassDominion

case and point, the price. its justification for a higher price.

No, no it's not.

[QUOTE="KittyKatB"]

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

AdobeArtist

Forza 2, DOA 4, Mass Effect, Ace Combat 6, Dead Rising, Kameo, and PGR4 say hello :)

Aside from Mass Effect,all of those are terrible games,and you know it.

Try again.

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

KittyKatB

:o Wow.

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

To answer your question, think about why you bought a PS2 instead of an Xbox

/Thread.

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

Last three months = Bioshock, Halo 3, and The Orange Box. This month has Mass Effect. Next year has DMC4, GTA4 (exclusive content), Fable 2, Halo Wars, Splinter Cell Conviction, NG2 and much more.

Say what you wish, but I'm pretty happy with my purchase. I am at least happy and secure enough so that I don't have to go on Gamespot message boards and try and trash other consoles to justify my purchase. But I guess not everyone can be so happy.

Anyways...this was a nice break, back to the games.

People make the games argument,but the fact is,all the good 360 games are done and everyone is past them now.

Halo 3? - Boring. CoD 4's online is much better.

Orange Box? - Better on PC.

CoD 4? - On PS3 and PC,with free online and more than 16 player matches.

Those are the only good 360 games that came out this year. Every good multiplat and exclusive is now coming to the PC and PS3.

There is no point in owning the kid's toy known as the 360.

Give up guys. Just go home and sell your 360s and buy a real machine.

KittyKatB

Bioshock (yes on pc, but not PS#)

Forza 9.0

Dead Rising, Crackdown, Table Tennis, Viva Pinata, PGR4, ETC ETC

Mass Effect Next Week

All types of titles next year

360 has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better games then PS3. Its not even close.

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

AdobeArtist

case and point, the price. its justification for a higher price.

No, no it's not.

what do you mean?

your dont think it helps justify the price? its like a car, you pay more for the better perks.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="KittyKatB"]

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

KittyKatB

Forza 2, DOA 4, Mass Effect, Ace Combat 6, Dead Rising, Kameo, and PGR4 say hello :)

Aside from Mass Effect,all of those are terrible games,and you know it.

Try again.

They're all AA games, and Forza 2 is AAA, all well received by reviewers across the board. How many AA and AAA games does PS3 have compared to Xbox 360?

TRY AGAIN

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

the reason us normal people are okay with this is because the 360 is a good GAME system, not a dvd player. so it doesn't need to try and get your attention away from a shoddy library *cough...ps3...cough* by adding a bunch of crap you don't need...*cough...blu-ray...cough*

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

GlassDominion

case and point, the price. its justification for a higher price.

No, no it's not.

what do you mean?

your dont think it helps justify the price? its like a car, you pay more for the better perks.

Is a toaster oven added to your car a perk that justifies it buying it over another? The added perks should enhance the gaming experience. Bragging about movie playing capability undermines any games advantage.

Why are we paying $350 for a system with cheap and outdated hardware, cheap case, high failure rate, and a cheap dvd drive?

If it were labeled as a PC,it would only be worth around $200.

This is the number one reason why the PS3 is more afforable than the RROD box. For $399 ($50 more!), you get a bluray player, a powerful machine with a good GPU and CPU, and a slick metallic case.

From a purely hardware perpective, the Xbox 360 is a rip off.

It's over guys,the 360 is just a scam.
KittyKatB

www.sonydefenseforce.com

You'd fit right in.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

GlassDominion

case and point, the price. its justification for a higher price.

Unless you're buying a PS3 for the movie player, it's a rip off. The PS3 should be a gaming machine. Jacking up the price for such crap is unacceptable.

When i buy a video game console, a "slick metallic case" is definetly a selling point. /sarcasm

3dbullseye

The 360 is just a toy to get if you have a bad PC.

But if you have a good PC,every single 360 games comes to the PC. That is why the PS3 with worth getting. It is actually a GAMES CONSOLE,instead of a poor man's PC.

KittyKatB

id take a poor mans pc over a crapy game playing blu-ray player any day of the week mr. kittykat

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

"you get a bluray player"

I absolutely hate when people use this to defend the PS3. I mean, how does THIS make it more valuable as a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE? How is this important to those of us whose only interest in a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE is the ablity to play VIDEO GAMES?

Also, case? Oi.

/rant

GlassDominion

case and point, the price. its justification for a higher price.

No, no it's not.

what do you mean?

your dont think it helps justify the price? its like a car, you pay more for the better perks.

[QUOTE="3dbullseye"]

When i buy a video game console, a "slick metallic case" is definetly a selling point. /sarcasm

GlassDominion

i agree its about the games not the way the system looks. no offence to any 360fans here, but the 360 just did not have the games i like to play. i play rpgs like no other, with a side of shooting. and the 360 had the shooter side...but little else. it just didnt have a strong rpg library on the way like the ps3 does. (final fantasy + disgaea+ persona)

JRPGs = Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 2 and the Mistwalker online RPG. Not to mention The Last Remnant and the possibility of Star Ocean 4 being multiplat.

Western RPGs = Mass Effect, Fable 2, Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom, Too Human and Dark Messiah: Elements.

Best part is Eternal Sonata and Blue Dragon are available right now, and Mass Effect is coming out in 9 days.

What were you saying about lack of variety?