the xbox will produce much better graphics after the release of Reach

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/xbox-secrets-the-truth-about-xbox-360-relaunch--$1305320.htm

Halo reach is the first game that uses the X engine.

"One striking difference was the inclusion of one-gigabytes of RAM.the extra memory can be used to properly test your game.

extra memory from the 512MB pool would have to be put aside to test their game engine. Developers could of course disable these test features in order to use this spare memory, but that would mean that they wouldn't easily be able to test their game.

Therefore, a certain amount of memory would be sacrificed for their retail Xbox 360 game; this could amount to anything from 20MB's to as much as 100MB's. However, with the new Xbox 360 kit, this is no longer problem, giving that memory back to developers for the first time since the Xbox 360's launch in 2005."

the engine in general is a new way to program for the 360, it takes full advantage of the 360's features and give the 20-100mb of RAM back to the devs, thex eninge takes advantage of the 360 like the edge engine takes advantage of the ps3. Sony gave to thier devs and 3rd party. The edge is just now starting to show some serious power with Kz2 and UC2. and Killzone 2 (kz2 the best looking console gameimo runs on a modified EDGE engine.)

I don't think we'll be seeing next gen for a while :) just fine by me this gen is just incredible.

extra memory from where? 512 is 512.InfiniteBlak

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]extra memory from where? 512 is 512.mayceV

Does Natal add extra tech specs?tehsystemwarior

Ya natal will give 360 a limit break :P,

nice post mayceV :)

[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]Does Natal add extra tech specs?Kashiwaba

Ya natal will give 360 a limit break :P,

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]extra memory from where? 512 is 512.InfiniteBlak

nice post mayceV :)

hamzah1235

what does this have to do with natal?Jandurin

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]Does Natal add extra tech specs?tehsystemwarior

Ya natal will give 360 a limit break :P,

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]what does this have to do with natal?mayceV

[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Ya natal will give 360 a limit break :P,

Zaibach

The new dev kit uses 1GB now, it used to just be 512MB which is all the 360 actually has. I'm surprised anyone would have used up to 100MB to test, but anything helps.

will that really make a noticable difference?G-O-M-J

LMAO people are actually believing this nonsense? :lol:

So reach is the first game to take advantage of the hardware?Racer850

LMAO people are actually believing this nonsense? :lol:

BiggGaming

what does this have to do with natal?Jandurin

All I can think is that he's referring to the time frame.

I've been hearing rumors of this new engine for awhile, I hope it's completely true.

[QUOTE="Racer850"]So reach is the first game to take advantage of the hardware?mayceV

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/xbox-secrets-the-truth-about-xbox-360-relaunch--$1305320.htm

Halo reach is the first game that uses the X engine.

"extra memory from the 512MB pool would have to be put aside to test their game engine. Developers could of course disable these test features in order to use this spare memory, but that would mean that they wouldn't easily be able to test their game.

Therefore, a certain amount of memory would be sacrificed for their retail Xbox 360 game; this could amount to anything from 20MB's to as much as 100MB's. However, with the new Xbox 360 kit, this is no longer problem, giving that memory back to developers for the first time since the Xbox 360's launch in 2005."

the engine in general is a new way to program for the 360, it takes full advantage of the 360's features and give the 20-100mb of RAM back to the devs, thex eninge takes advantage of the 360 like the edge engine takes advantage of the ps3. Sony gave to thier devs and 3rd party. The edge is just now starting to show some serious power with Kz2 and UC2. and Killzone 2 (kz2 the best looking console gameimo runs on a modified EDGE engine.)

I don't think we'll be seeing next gen for a while :) just fine by me this gen is just incredible.

mayceV

This is rather retarded, they are just now doing what they should have been doing from the beginning? The PS3 dev kit has had an extra 256MB from the beginning for this very reason.

I am pretty sure all the memory was being used in previous games it was just more difficult for the developers to test. It's not like this is an untapped resource, it's just easier for the devs.

Is this talking about the new dev consoles we've known about for ages. With the old they only had 512, so they had to run and test the game on that 512. The new ones have 1gb so you can use the 512, and use the other for testing.

[QUOTE="mayceV"]

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/xbox-secrets-the-truth-about-xbox-360-relaunch--$1305320.htm

Halo reach is the first game that uses the X engine.

"extra memory from the 512MB pool would have to be put aside to test their game engine. Developers could of course disable these test features in order to use this spare memory, but that would mean that they wouldn't easily be able to test their game.

Therefore, a certain amount of memory would be sacrificed for their retail Xbox 360 game; this could amount to anything from 20MB's to as much as 100MB's. However, with the new Xbox 360 kit, this is no longer problem, giving that memory back to developers for the first time since the Xbox 360's launch in 2005."

the engine in general is a new way to program for the 360, it takes full advantage of the 360's features and give the 20-100mb of RAM back to the devs, thex eninge takes advantage of the 360 like the edge engine takes advantage of the ps3. Sony gave to thier devs and 3rd party. The edge is just now starting to show some serious power with Kz2 and UC2. and Killzone 2 (kz2 the best looking console gameimo runs on a modified EDGE engine.)

I don't think we'll be seeing next gen for a while :) just fine by me this gen is just incredible.

This is rather retarded, they are just now doing what they should have been doing from the beginning? The PS3 dev kit has had an extra 256MB from the beginning for this very reason.

I am pretty sure all the memory was being used in previous games it was just more difficult for the developers to test. It's not like this is an untapped resource, it's just easier for the devs.

The dev kits have the extra memory. They are taking notes from the PS3 dev kits. It allows them to be more efficient and give them more room to try different things.

I kinda dread seeing the boards after these dev kits start showing improved 360 graphics.

Oh well, we need something to keep SW alive.

- OLD

- Not true (there is no such thing as X-Engine)

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"]

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/xbox-secrets-the-truth-about-xbox-360-relaunch--$1305320.htm

Halo reach is the first game that uses the X engine.

"extra memory from the 512MB pool would have to be put aside to test their game engine. Developers could of course disable these test features in order to use this spare memory, but that would mean that they wouldn't easily be able to test their game.

Therefore, a certain amount of memory would be sacrificed for their retail Xbox 360 game; this could amount to anything from 20MB's to as much as 100MB's. However, with the new Xbox 360 kit, this is no longer problem, giving that memory back to developers for the first time since the Xbox 360's launch in 2005."

the engine in general is a new way to program for the 360, it takes full advantage of the 360's features and give the 20-100mb of RAM back to the devs, thex eninge takes advantage of the 360 like the edge engine takes advantage of the ps3. Sony gave to thier devs and 3rd party. The edge is just now starting to show some serious power with Kz2 and UC2. and Killzone 2 (kz2 the best looking console gameimo runs on a modified EDGE engine.)

I don't think we'll be seeing next gen for a while :) just fine by me this gen is just incredible.

mayceV

This is rather retarded, they are just now doing what they should have been doing from the beginning? The PS3 dev kit has had an extra 256MB from the beginning for this very reason.

I am pretty sure all the memory was being used in previous games it was just more difficult for the developers to test. It's not like this is an untapped resource, it's just easier for the devs.

(?) That's what I said.

- OLD

- Not true (there is no such thing as X-Engine)

sayonara89

Yeah, they were revealed back in March.

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

- OLD

- Not true (there is no such thing as X-Engine)

skektek

Yeah, they were revealed back in March.

Yeah, I know about 1GB dev-kit but "X-Engine" have nothing to do with it.

i think halo reach will be the only graphical showcase for the 360 i means the ram is not gonna do much to the games anyways and since the 360's gpu can only go as far as it can i personally dont c games thats gonna be as good as kz2 and uncharted 2 and many other the games.

the best that sony has done ok fair enough it might have low ram and inferior GPU but the cell nakes up for it because u can squeese alot of power from the cell without using RSX. the RSX is only used as a backup there for we are seeing games like kz2 and uncharted 2 with the stronghold of the cell

xBOX 360'S cpu and GPU = Cell

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]extra memory from where? 512 is 512.InfiniteBlak

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"][QUOTE="mayceV"] no memory was set out of the 512. in other words games weren't using the full 512 to begin with. 93soccer

well he/she is right it does use ram there is no possible way that it doesnt.......

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="Racer850"]So reach is the first game to take advantage of the hardware?Racer850

Hopefully, this will finally shut all the cows up about the 360 not being able to compete with such games like Uncharted 2 & Killzone 2. It just annoys me to no end.

Awesome news for the XBOX360......i can't wait to see the new games on the 360 with the new X engine.8)

Thats pretty cool, good for the people with a Xbox360.

Great news, now I really want an engine demo to show us what this engine could do.

I can't see how this new dev kit affects the game in any other way than making the testing of games easier for devs :?uRan_Ehr

[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]I can't see how this new dev kit affects the game in any other way than making the testing of games easier for devs :?mayceV

Well, I guess the question is: "where are the 1st party devs who are supposed to use it?" As far as I know Microsoft shut them all down.

[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]I can't see how this new dev kit affects the game in any other way than making the testing of games easier for devs :?mayceV

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]I can't see how this new dev kit affects the game in any other way than making the testing of games easier for devs :?uRan_Ehr