There is no reason to buy games brand new, industry is saturated and gaming is cheaper than ever

Seriously there isn't. A lot of people want to bash sony for charging 70$ for a new game or hate on Nintendo for keeping their first party at $60.

But at the end of the day gaming is cheaper and more accessible than ever. Look at Gamepass. For a sub comparable to netflix you have a bunch of new games to play. Psnow too...

PSN pay a sub and you get 2 free games a month. Epic is giving away free games every month on PC. Sales on GOG and Steam have AAA games going on sale under $10 everyday.

Unless you have absolutely nothing to do 24/7 there are games you have not played, that are great with high budgets behind them. (or low...indie scene killing it and they stay cheap.)

Even physical, i know digital stores have great sales but hell you can go into a gamestop and take advantage of a buy 2 used get one free deal almost every other week. I walked in and got my cousin wreckfest, spiderman, and god of war for like $30 total...

Personally i would never pay $70 for a game right now, not because i cant afford it... but just because i could go get 4 games for $70 that all have high ratings and great gameplay i haven't played yet.

As for nintendo charging $60 for mario all stars or sony charging $70 for a new game... i just dont think it matters. I got more games than i got time... it would take me 3 years to completely go through the games i want to play in the backlog... i hardly ever buy a game for more than $20 anymore.

last game i paid full price for was THPS remaster, but that was $40 new..

Do you guys think the industry is saturated. I feel like there's more games than players sometimes. And everything is dirt cheap when you really look at it. Like real cheap... who the hell would buy a $70 dollar game when you can just load up on like 5 games that are 1-2 years old??

I buy my games on steam sale, on time off i play those games. Used to invest Day 1 , but due to personal covid financial crisis i've stopped doing that in last two years.I'm happy btw, i play all the games i want to play maybe later.

Pretty much stick to Steam/GoG sales these days, but I'm not opposed to paying full price for something I want enough to scoop up day one. Don't really give it too much thought, tbh. In general certain people on this forum seem to be overly obsessed with the price of things. It's weird.

Yeah, between independent and small studio games that provide hundreds of hours of play time for 30 dollars, and various sales on digital marketplaces, and even subscription services for newer AAA games, there is little to no reason these days to buy a game at full price.

I know some will argue that subscriptions aren't owning games, and I won't argue against that; I will ask, however, if it even matters at this point?

At 15 dollars per month, I'd have to literally sit on my ass and not play a game to feel like I'm not getting my money's worth. Four months of Uplay equals the price of a new game, for example, and I've gotten more than that out of my sub.

I can literally afford to not own the game at those prices, and if I really want it, I will buy it when it's on sale in a year or two and it would still be cheaper than buying the game at release.

Yeah, same. Rare occurance these days, though, I have to admit. Last game I bought full price was Cyberpunk, and even then it wasn't just Cyberpunk, it was the CDPR Bundle, which was 50 dollars for all the Witcher games (including that criminally overlooked adventure and card game) and Cyberpunk.

So true why buy on release date , play the waiting game and get them cheaper. Im a sucker and want to support day one games that are exclusive and or im just future proofing for a sequel. Like Halo 4 i own a physical and digital copy.. lol.

But lets keep it real with big back logs its real easy to wait . Still havent finish playing Doom 2018 / forza horizon 3 / resident evil 3 / 7 / halo Guardians / gears 4/5 / last of us 2 / uncharted 4 / god of war / evil within 1/2 etc.. the list goes on man

I've probably paid full price for about 5 games in my life. Buy most for $5.

I mean you are not wrong, that being said these days I have a lot more money to buy games than time to actually play them, so if a game strikes my fancy i will buy it regardless of the price!

It's true, £70 is over 6 months of Gamepass Ultimate anyway. I'd rather just do that.

Yup. New games usually become cheaper as soon as a couple months after release. Unless you think playing games as soon as possible is worth full price, getting games on day 1 is just a waste of money.

I gladly support games I like 🙂

No you don't you, sell your games after you're done with them. That's not supporting the devs. Every game you sell is a lost sale for the developers.

Not say their is anything wrong with selling games. Just don't make out you're holier than thou.

The money I make from selling goes towards buying new games silly.

If you was truly supporting the games you wouldn't sell them as every second hand purchase is a lost sale to the developer.

Nice dodge 😉

What am I dodging?

If you're not on GamePass, you're doing it wrong. :P

I don't even think twice about $70. That is chump change for me. Lemmings act like it's a life or death amount of money. That's why Microsoft created Gamepass for them. They'll settle for playing shovelware as long as it's free. Personally I value my time too much and have no problem spending money to get high quality games.

Thanks for supporting the industry 🙂

The bovine brigade just loves a good milking, even if they must do it themselves. lol :P

So if you happened to be poor and couldn't afford to spend £70 on games you're not supporting the industry then.

You guys with this sneering at gamers that have less money than you lucky people is the fucking worst imo.

Yet you have no problem with lemmings calling gamers dumb for wanting to buy and own high quality games instead of renting low quality ones.

There seems to be a lot of jealousy coming from the Xbox camp these days. Maybe you guys never could afford games and that's why you were always content with only having Halo and Gears. Scraping up $60 once a year must have been a lot easier than coming up with the funds to buy the dozens of world class GOTY winning Sony exclusives over the years lol.

I see stimulus check PC gamer is back. 😂

I agree and I think this exact rationale is the reason companies push all digital so they can control industry pricing more rather than consumers having the buying power to get it cheaper physically. I have no issue paying full price for a game if it's something I'm really interested in, but I do it less and less anymore as the industry is less and less creative. Gaming is so cheap in fact, that I still have more games in my back log I bought with steep discounts than what gamepass offers.

I think alot of people who complain about the cost of gaming most likely don't have a job or income to support the hobby. When you compare the cost of gaming to other hobbies I've tried or seen, it's a freaking dirt cheap hobby. Skiing/snowboarding, paintball, hunting, sporting events, golfing, car restoration, wood working, photography, the list goes on and they're all more expensive than gaming. Think $70 for a game is expensive? You'll pay that in a week for three practices for ice time if you want to play hockey, and that's not including the nearly 1k for equipment.

Yea, at the end of the day, this is a hobby. Not sure what people were expecting. It's entertainment. If I decide to support the game at $70, that's my decision. If I'm flat out broke like some people are suggesting they are, I would first assess my priorities in life lmao, but I would also wait for a sale.

Mostly don't bother with games new because the business practices and many of the companies behind them make you want to go for a cold shower.

Some people need to stop being so ignorant. The issue as someone has mentioned before is not about the price but worth. Different gamers place different worth on different games so some games may be worth the asking price and for others it's not. It's that simple. I am not sure why there is this need to go into whether people have jobs or whether people are poor and all this nonsense . I am absolutely positive that everyone on this forum has a job and can easily pay $70 for a game. Whether or not they want to pay $70 is a different topic altogether.

OP's mindset is what killed off the A and AA studios from the 360/PS3 era. This is why we went from multiple releases from major series' to just 1, or in some cases 0 this past gen. (Uncharted, GTA, ME etc)

Games are FAR more expensive to make than ever. And the reason microtransactions are so prevalent is because of the razor thin margins out the gate. So keep waiting for sales, buying second hand or getting the games for "free." You'll be kicking yourself later

Well sure, there’s nothing wrong with waiting and buying cheaper. There’s games that I wait on to go on sale but there’s also games that I don’t mind paying full price for either. There’s various reasons why I’d want to get a game full price right away.

- I want to get in on the action and start playing it right away with others. This is especially true for some games like Monster Hunter, fighting games, Halo, Gears of War, etc. I find it more fun to learn the game as others are just starting to learn it as well.

- Collector’s Editions or just limited releases. I like to get physical versions of games and if I feel that it may be something that could be hard to get down the road then I want to jump on that as soon as possible.

- sometimes it’s just more fun experiencing and talking about a game with a bunch of other people at or around it’s release as everyone is discovering things at about the same time

@SolidGame_basic: You know the stimulus check PC gamer? 😎

I am still finding new stuff on SNES, Genesis, TG16, and NeoGeo to play that I am finding very enjoyable. So I agree, no need to buy new stuff... especially at $70.

I agree with the rising price of games being rather silly, and I'm disappointed people are taking it with no lube and a smile, but buying used isn't the answer. It's actually one of the reasons why prices are increasing.

Also, what happens to the price of physicals 20 years down the line? They often get ridiculously over valued, and the only ones who benefit are people who bought the thing, not the ones who made it.

One of the benefits of cross gen compatibility. Owners if new consoles don't have to rely on new gen offerings and they also get to enjoy older titles with newer benefits not afforded to older systems. And all that stuff is dirt cheap.

Good for you. I'll decide the value of my money and so will the market. There's the people that want to buy things new, and the people that have to settle for the crumbs. We can all exist together.

How is waiting for a game to come down in in price 'settling for crumbs'?

It's not a bad thing, not everyone can afford games new. But buying things new isn't inherently bad either. Dumpster diving gaming is still gaming. Hell, we all do that.

Also worth noting playing older games isn't settling for less. Great games are passing us by all the time, we either don't notice or just don't have the time. Tomorrow's full priced AAA games are just old games getting discounted to stay relevant in weeks to follow.

I'll buy it at a low price.

The only ones saying it's not a big deal are those who only buy a few games a year at that price and game casually. No one in their right mind is going to buy $70 games weekly without knowing much about them on a whim. Not even those pretending to be rich.

There is literally no difference in buying a game at full price, half price or 2 0r 10 years later. Your analogy simply doesn't work.

The only ones saying $70 is too much for a game are broke lemmings. Not everyone can be a big baller. The world needs benchwarmers like you.

Sure. You're just a broke ass loser pretendo on the internet to fill the void of your boring and non-eventful life in front of a computer screen, buster.

Game publishers and devs need profits sooner than later to keep the pipeline running. You can't keep a business going if no one is willing to buy in unless prices tank. No one is forcing people to buy games at full price, but not every dev can keep the doors open when constantly selling at a loss. That's just economics 101.

Sometimes people find the ability to play the game at release to be far worth any $$$$ saved down the line with potential sales. If you want to play it bad enough the $59.99 shouldn't be much of an impairment at least in this hobby.

It's just for those who want to be in the discussion. Hefty fee to pay considering the bugs and lack of polish at the highest possible price with the least amount of content. But I guess somebody has to do it. Thanks for taking one for the team, early adopters!