There is really no point in owning a powerful gaming PC anymore...

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#1 Tsimcluckis
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The only good games coming for PC are Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 but it probably does not require a super powerful computer to play those games.

Also, all the good games come out to your XBOX360 and PS3 anyway...the graphics are good enough on consoles nowadays.

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#2 KrazyKenKutarag
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This isn't going to end well...

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#3 Scoob64
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The only good games coming for PC are Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 but it probably does not require a super powerful computer to play those games.

Also, all the good games come out to your XBOX360 and PS3 anyway...the graphics are good enough on consoles nowadays.

Tsimcluckis

Considering my most played game, even today, is still StarCraft on Battle.net... um, yeah... there is still reason to own a PC

and due to the fact that StarCraft 2 will probably consume my life and I'd like to run it at full specs, yes, I need a powerful PC.

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#4 Espada12
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This is good thing! Now pc gaming can be more affordable than ever and the longetivity of a high end rig is even further increased, not to mention more people can play games on lower end rigs!

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#5 millerlight89
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Yea, and guess what those games look better, have higher FPS, and get mods, o and also free online on a PC. Have fun with your outdated PS360 combo while my PC leaves you in the dust.
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#6 Dead-Memories
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And any future total war games, are reason enough for a good PC imo, PLUS many other great titles, like Arma 2, flight simulators, Blizzard titles, and tenfold superior multiplat games, (360/PC mainly)

PC gaming will always have a point, and be a luxury to those who put effort into it

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#7 Syferonik
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If i have a lot of money to wast i would like to have a gaming PC even if there is nothing to play, cuz at least i could feel wut hermits feel (coolness i think is the word) and badass games like ME2,Borderlands and Alan Wake would be better in evry way possible on PC anyway.
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#8 SparkyProtocol
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Yes. You have to be a Blizzbot to enjoy PC gaming. I am going to destroy all of my source games, Relic games, cancel my plans on getting Stalker, TOR, all of the other PC exclusives in the near future and then destroy my PC.
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#9 -GeordiLaForge-
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Thousands of mods, superior graphics, cheaper games, higher resolutions, better framerates, better loadtimes, etc... yeah
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#10 Toriko42
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Yes. You have to be a Blizzbot to enjoy PC gaming. I am going to destroy all of my source games, Relic games, cancel my plans on getting Stalker, TOR, all of the other PC exclusives in the near future and then destroy my PC.SparkyProtocol
Agreed but these days, my lack of playing new PC games means I can keep a modest system and play all my favorite games at maximum

Love your signature too but I don't think you'll get a chance to follow up on the ownage since well, that guy is banned :P

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HERMITS ATTACK!
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There are more developers making games for PC than the Wii, PS3 and 360 combined.

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#13 anshul89
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Uh running most recent games @ 1080p with 60fps and some AA requires a medium-high end pc.

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Quick call the:

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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Yes. You have to be a Blizzbot to enjoy PC gaming. I am going to destroy all of my source games, Relic games, cancel my plans on getting Stalker, TOR, all of the other PC exclusives in the near future and then destroy my PC.Toriko42

Agreed but these days, my lack of playing new PC games means I can keep a modest system and play all my favorite games at maximum

Love your signature too but I don't think you'll get a chance to follow up on the ownage since well, that guy is banned :P

I am sure he'll be back. ;)
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#16 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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Ya there is to play the superior version of multiplatform games. Why the hell would you buy call of duty modern warefare 2 on xbox360 or ps3 when you can buy it for the pc with better graphics and more players online and more options.
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No Civilization IV = no dice.
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#18 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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It's pretty much true pc isnt getting as much shooters built for the pc anymore. But the consoles dont have much shooters in general, most of console shooters are also on pc so same can be said for console not much shooters exclusive to consoles. I hope dev's get back to making shooters exclusive to a pc and console. tired of multiplatform crap
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ArmA II hoooooray.
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#21 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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Damn i miss the days when idsoftware built games for pc and then watered them down for consoles like original quake or doom or whatever. sucks it's multiplatform crap, it does make development easier, but still it's holding back pc technology ati and nvidia making new graphics cards is basically a waste of time now.
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#22 aero250
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I agree console graphics are now up to par.
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#23 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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It's a shame we have crazy cards like the ati radeon 4890 or the nvidia geforce 280 gtx, and no games are really taking advantage using all of the features packed into the cards.
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#24 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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I agree console graphics are now up to par.aero250
no it's just consoles are holding back pc development.
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#25 subrosian
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I agree console graphics are now up to par.aero250
That was awesome... I laughed for two ~ three minutes straight. But then I had to stop because, since this is System Wars, and I realized you might not have intended that as a joke :|

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Console capability (not just graphics ) is so far behind the current PC high-end that I've become concerned that is MS / Sony don't release their next consoles before 2012, the genre divide will reach a point that has significant reprecussions for core gaming on consoles.

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#26 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="aero250"]I agree console graphics are now up to par.gftuyhtrhfghytr
no it's just consoles are holding back pc development.

Good. I don't want to need to upgrade my PC every year. What genre are consoles holding it back in?
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#27 subrosian
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Good. I don't want to need to upgrade my PC every year. What genre are consoles holding it back in?SparkyProtocol
I have a hard time accepting someone as a gamer who is opposed to progress. "Oh, I don't want to spend money, so I want everyone else to suffer". That road goes both ways y'know, if the console manufacturers botch their upgrade cycle, the consequence will be that there are fewer core gamers on the shelf.
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Consoles are for peole who really do not understand how to operate a computer, and do not realize what they are missing. Basically young children.millerlight89

LOL, kk wake me up when my ps3 exclusives come to pc. love your logic man.

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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Good. I don't want to need to upgrade my PC every year. What genre are consoles holding it back in?subrosian
I have a hard time accepting someone as a gamer who is opposed to progress. "Oh, I don't want to spend money, so I want everyone else to suffer". That road goes both ways y'know, if the console manufacturers botch their upgrade cycle, the consequence will be that there are fewer core gamers on the shelf.

I think PC gaming is doing fine. STALKER, DoW2, Empire Total War are fine examples. I just meant that I don't want PC devs to go overboard. I hate cheap people holding gaming back. One of my peeves are the people who do not want this console gen to end till some silly year like 2015 or something.
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#31 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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[QUOTE="gftuyhtrhfghytr"][QUOTE="aero250"]I agree console graphics are now up to par.SparkyProtocol
no it's just consoles are holding back pc development.

Good. I don't want to need to upgrade my PC every year. What genre are consoles holding it back in?

fps You dont have to upgrade every year, that's such a stereotype by console gamers.
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#32 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Consoles are for peole who really do not understand how to operate a computer, and do not realize what they are missing. Basically young children.thejakel11225

LOL, kk wake me up when my ps3 exclusives come to pc. love your logic man.

pc doesnt need ps3 exclusives, it has better games.
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#34 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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epicgames,infinity ward,idsoftware all sold out on pc gamers. They used to be pc focused developers, now they are console developers pretty much.
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#35 thejakel11225
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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Consoles are for peole who really do not understand how to operate a computer, and do not realize what they are missing. Basically young children.gftuyhtrhfghytr

LOL, kk wake me up when my ps3 exclusives come to pc. love your logic man.

pc doesnt need ps3 exclusives, it has better games.

You missed the point, i bought the ps3 for its games, i don't care if the pc has better games or not (opinions ftw btw).
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#36 zarshack
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Not many Devs are pushing hardware and theres no real reason to keep getting new hardware at the moment unless you want better performance out of Crysis.

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#37 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Good. I don't want to need to upgrade my PC every year. What genre are consoles holding it back in?SparkyProtocol
I have a hard time accepting someone as a gamer who is opposed to progress. "Oh, I don't want to spend money, so I want everyone else to suffer". That road goes both ways y'know, if the console manufacturers botch their upgrade cycle, the consequence will be that there are fewer core gamers on the shelf.

I think PC gaming is doing fine. STALKER, DoW2, Empire Total War are fine examples. I just meant that I don't want PC devs to go overboard. I hate cheap people holding gaming back. One of my peeves are the people who do not want this console gen to end till some silly year like 2015 or something.

Those people don't really grasp what they're asking for... sometime around Modern Warfare 3 they'll realize the consequences of hardware stagnation.
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#38 gftuyhtrhfghytr
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idsoftware back in the day used to make the games first on pc and then some other company would port the game to consoles. idsoftware's focus was pc, now they are making games for 360/ps3 and not really pc's hardware in mind which can do more impressive graphics. true shame the pioneer of the fps genre is doing this crap.
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#39 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="gftuyhtrhfghytr"] no it's just consoles are holding back pc development.gftuyhtrhfghytr
Good. I don't want to need to upgrade my PC every year. What genre are consoles holding it back in?

fps You dont have to upgrade every year, that's such a stereotype by console gamers.

Console gaming is not holding back the FPS genre. Try again.
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#40 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="aero250"]I agree console graphics are now up to par.subrosian

That was awesome... I laughed for two ~ three minutes straight. But then I had to stop because, since this is System Wars, and I realized you might not have intended that as a joke :|

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Console capability (not just graphics ) is so far behind the current PC high-end that I've become concerned that is MS / Sony don't release their next consoles before 2012, the genre divide will reach a point that has significant reprecussions for core gaming on consoles.

Truth be told, I agree with that statement. People bicker in forums about graphical differences which, when all is said and done, really aren't that great. I'm going to say it outright... The difference between Crysis and Gears is one that most people wouldn't even notice being all that great. The difference between DVD and Blu-Ray movies is one that a lot of people don't even realize is there until they've had it pointed out to them.

Video games aren't that different - we just happen to be in a setting where every minor discrepancy is studied and obsessed over ad nauseam. A game that looked great five years ago still looks great... People say "Oh, that makes my eyes bleed!" while just a few years back they were describing games that looked worse as "Wow, it's so incredible to look at!" In one generation, not that much changes. We just blow minor discrepancies out of proportion. Precisely like you've done here... Laughed for three minutes? If you actually did that, THAT would be funny.

Oh, and last note... The PC high-end is still defined by a game that's several years old. Yes, it looks better than any console game out there, but you know, not by that much. It is true that new consoles have to be released every five years or so so that the statement "console graphics are up to par" isn't a joke, but... They have been, so it isn't.

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#42 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="subrosian"] I have a hard time accepting someone as a gamer who is opposed to progress. "Oh, I don't want to spend money, so I want everyone else to suffer". That road goes both ways y'know, if the console manufacturers botch their upgrade cycle, the consequence will be that there are fewer core gamers on the shelf.subrosian
I think PC gaming is doing fine. STALKER, DoW2, Empire Total War are fine examples. I just meant that I don't want PC devs to go overboard. I hate cheap people holding gaming back. One of my peeves are the people who do not want this console gen to end till some silly year like 2015 or something.

Those people don't really grasp what they're asking for... sometime around Modern Warfare 3 they'll realize the consequences of hardware stagnation.

I do applaud dev teams like Remedy, Rockstar, id, etc who can create so much with so little amount of ram.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Such an ignorant post. Do you have any idea how wrong you are.SparkyProtocol
You have any idea how terrible the consoles are, and also how horrible the community is. Have fun on those baby toyz while I play on a real machine.

Now you are trolling.

No I am making a point, while I play on a superior platform.
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#45 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] You have any idea how terrible the consoles are, and also how horrible the community is. Have fun on those baby toyz while I play on a real machine.millerlight89
Now you are trolling.

No I am making a point, while I play on a superior platform.

I can build a PC from scratch. So can half of my friends. Your earlier statement from the previous page is wrong. I will have fun with my "baby toy".

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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Consoles are for peole who really do not understand how to operate a computer, and do not realize what they are missing. Basically young children.millerlight89
Such an ignorant post. Do you have any idea how wrong you are.

You have any idea how terrible the consoles are, and also how horrible the community is. Have fun on those baby toyz while I play on a real machine.

I've been PC gaming for over two decades and still going strong. Consoles have some of the best games of any given generation on them, and if you don't play those console games, you *are* missing out as a gamer.
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="aero250"]I agree console graphics are now up to par.Shafftehr

That was awesome... I laughed for two ~ three minutes straight. But then I had to stop because, since this is System Wars, and I realized you might not have intended that as a joke :|

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Console capability (not just graphics ) is so far behind the current PC high-end that I've become concerned that is MS / Sony don't release their next consoles before 2012, the genre divide will reach a point that has significant reprecussions for core gaming on consoles.

Truth be told, I agree with that statement. People bicker in forums about graphical differences which, when all is said and done, really aren't that great. I'm going to say it outright... The difference between Crysis and Gears is one that most people wouldn't even notice being all that great. The difference between DVD and Blu-Ray movies is one that a lot of people don't even realize is there until they've had it pointed out to them.

Video games aren't that different - we just happen to be in a setting where every minor discrepancy is studied and obsessed over ad nauseam. A game that looked great five years ago still looks great... People say "Oh, that makes my eyes bleed!" while just a few years back they were describing games that looked worse as "Wow, it's so incredible to look at!" In one generation, not that much changes. We just blow minor discrepancies out of proportion. Precisely like you've done here... Laughed for three minutes? If you actually did that, THAT would be funny.

Oh, and last note... The PC high-end is still defined by a game that's several years old. Yes, it looks better than any console game out there, but you know, not by that much. It is true that new consoles have to be released every five years or so so that the statement "console graphics are up to par" isn't a joke, but... They have been, so it isn't.

The difference between Crysis Warhead on Enthusiast, and Gears of War 2 on the 360, is quite large. The same is true of the higher-quality Blu-Ray transfers against their older DVD counterparts. It's simply that we've reached a level of fidelity on the high end where I cannot properly show you what you're missing outside of a theater setting. This isn't about "more polygons" or "better textures" either - it's about the impact of playing, watching movies, or listening to music in my media room versus "oh, I'm playing videogames". Better source material goes a long way.

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The difference is startling - the difference is large enough that I get comments still from people who've experienced it multiple times. The other day on a screening of Pulp Fiction, we had to pause because my friend wanted to hear this conversation he thought was coming from the next room. He had no idea that it was two of the surrounds playing the background noises of the cafe patrons toward the end of the movie.

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We're reaching a point where we're simply playing the games, because the AI, interface, physics, graphics, etc are hitting a point of "reality" - and the closer we get, the greater the benefits become to enjoyment.

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I'm not a "typical PC gamer" - I could care less about a pixel count, or some argument over a "graphics king"... , it's well known that I'm platform agnostic - but anyone who wants to make the claim that a powerful PC "Doesn't have a point" is either ignorant or in denial. We're reaching a point where the 0.001% of people who have a high-end, silenced media center gaming PC in a theater setup are piece-by-piece going towards having a holodeck. And that's going to be a serious divide - when we have teh "let's play a game, it's fun" market on one end, and we have this enthusiast media-progressive market on the other building the singularity in their living room.

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And that still completely ignores the coming GPGPU revolution, integration into motherboads of massive numbers of cores, and the software that has already emerged towards such a design. If such things become available to a great number of consumers, the divide only becomes larger.

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An attack on the PC is built on the premise that consoles and PCs, in gaming, provide the same function, serve the same audience, and are ultimately concerned with entertainment. There's simply so much more to it - and so much more going on.

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#48 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Now you are trolling.SparkyProtocol
No I am making a point, while I play on a superior platform.

I can build a PC from scratch. So can half of my friends. Your earlier statement from the previous page is wrong. With your logic I must be the superior gamer when compared to you. I do game on consoles and PC afterall. I will have fun with my "baby toy".

I never asked if you gamed on both, and I highly doubt you can build one from scratch.
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The difference between Crysis and Gears is one that most people wouldn't even notice being all that great.

Shafftehr

lol wut ? what are the specs of your PC ?