Things you NOT want see with Next-Gen Consoles(Ps4/xbox720)

Things i don't want is:

• Digital-download games only
• Small Hard-drives
• Have to pay for online
• Waggie Controls
• Under 1080p/60fps
• Lack of Blu-ray drive

No used games.SaltyMeatballs

PS4: I don't want to see the same controller design recycled again. Never liked the dual shock design.

X720: I don't want to see another RROD fiasco.

General: I don't want them to lock out used games or make hard drives non-swappable(or force us to buy proprietary hard drives).

Things i don't want is:

• Digital-download games only
• Small Hard-drives
• Have to pay for online
• Waggie Controls
• Under 1080p/60fps
• Lack of Blu-ray drive

aroxx_ab

Be realistic,hardware capable of doing that in high budget titles would be way too expensive for the console makers,they don't want to repeat the past,and sell their products at a loss for a few years,like they did with PS3 and 360.In fact,with Sony's current losses,they'd probably go bankrupt if they tried it...

I'd say you can either expect a 720p/60FPS,or 1080p/30FPS...

As for the thread question,I don't want consoles copying the PC.I would want for them to differentiate more,and not force installations,updates,DRM,etc.This Gen,to me,consoles often feel like gimped PCs...

I also don't want blocking used game sales,for the sake of the game preservation.All games eventually get pulled out of retail,how fast,depends on the amount of revenue they create.And when that happens,used game market is the only way of aquiring older titles.Not having it would create many anti-consumer issues,since the method above would be impossible...

• no overheating (ylod,rrod)
• no casual crap
• no online passes
• no annoying kids on mic
• No glitchy rpgs (yes im looking at you bethesdia)
• no hacked online

I would like to see mods on both ps4 and xbox 720 but only for single player.

you pretty much named it all.

as long blue ray player as increase speed unlike ps3 lol that thing is like .05x. j/king

NO but 4real

no used games would. I will only accept this if ms/sony take on the same policys has steam. and allow us to buy keys from other companys to fight prices even more. Then on top of that video game companys need make their return policy little better. They wounder why people don't want to spend 60 bucks on new game because we are tired of risking our money and end up with crappy has game. SO if the game sucked we should be able send the game back for full refund straight to the publisher. Maybe that would up the AAA titles...

Do not - Ps3, xbox 360

Do - Gamecube, Ps2

But we all know that isn't going to happen.

What I want to see, rather than what I don't want to see.

1. Sony to keep a free online service.

2. Larger capacity HDDs already in the systems, 320GB-500G.

3. Faster PSN downloads for PSN+ members. Since they are paying they should have faster downloading and continued free stuff like they get now.

4. More reliable systems. 360 was a joke and a half with it's 54% fail rate with the first 3.5 years of consoles & Sony's origional size consoles failed at a 12% rate.

5. Game makers to stop making so you can't put game saves on to a flashdrive & telling you if you had PSN+ you could save them online.

6. Wii & Xbox owners to admitt that Bluray is necessary and better. Yes something can be necessary even if your preferred console maker didn't put it in their system. It is necessary in order to advance gaming and not be held back due to storage limitations. It's like saying that it isn't necessary to have a larger HDD than a 20GB which we all know is false.

7. Lots of my favorite games.

• no overheating (ylod,rrod)
• no casual crap
• no online passes
• no annoying kids on mic
• No glitchy rpgs (yes im looking at you bethesdia)
• no hacked online

I would like to see mods on both ps4 and xbox 720 but only for single player.

free_milk

Casual crap is good for the systems survival, as long its plenty other games i see no problem with it. Let the kids and mommies be gamers too :P

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Things i don't want is:

• Digital-download games only
• Small Hard-drives
• Have to pay for online
• Waggie Controls
• Under 1080p/60fps
• Lack of Blu-ray drive

Rocker6

I'd say you can either expect a 720p/60FPS,or 1080p/30FPS...

It's ridiculous to think that 60FPS will ever be a console standard. Developers are always going to try and push console hardware which means sacrificing performance for graphical and visual fidelity. If that wasn't the case then 60FPS would always be standard with every new console/hardware generation..

[QUOTE="free_milk"]

• no overheating (ylod,rrod)
• no casual crap
• no online passes
• no annoying kids on mic
• No glitchy rpgs (yes im looking at you bethesdia)
• no hacked online

I would like to see mods on both ps4 and xbox 720 but only for single player.

aroxx_ab

Casual crap is good for the systems survival, as long its plenty other games i see no problem with it. Let the kids and mommies be gamers too :P

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

Wasdie

Low fps gives eye-fatigue and 1080p is standard on today's TVs.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

aroxx_ab

Low fps gives eye-fatigue and 1080p is standard on today's TVs.

It does?Considering that TVs still refresh at 60 or greater times per second, you aren't going to get eye-fatigue on that. Even if the game is rendered at 30 fps, your eyes see 60fps regardless.

So, you're full of crap.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

Wasdie

Low fps gives eye-fatigue and 1080p is standard on today's TVs.

It does? Considering this is the absolute firs time I've ever heard about that, and you posted it with no sources, I'm going to assume you're full of crap.

Considering that TVs still refresh at 60 or greater times per second, you aren't going to get eye-fatigue on that. Even if the game is rendered at 30 fps, your eyes see 60fps regardless.

I thought 60 Hz refresh rates were only bad with CRT monitors because of the flicker. I don't see it with LCD monitors even with interlaced 60 Hz.

Things i don't want is:

• Digital-download games only
• Small Hard-drives
• Have to pay for online
• Waggie Controls
• Under 1080p/60fps
• Lack of Blu-ray drive

aroxx_ab

Most games next gen will be 720P due to subtle differences and outlandish costs of 1080p production.

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

Wasdie

Well stated..you are 100% right. It is much easier and cheaper to make a 720p game look beautiful then a 1080p game. To truly make a 1080 p game look amazing you need the proper tech..which next gen systems won't have and a boatload of cash and great developers. A truly inspired 720p game blows away any 1080p console game released today.

The WiiU is a next gen console.

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

Wasdie

This.

Also, no day one DLC or Disc locked content crap.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

Wasdie

Low fps gives eye-fatigue and 1080p is standard on today's TVs.

It does?Considering that TVs still refresh at 60 or greater times per second, you aren't going to get eye-fatigue on that. Even if the game is rendered at 30 fps, your eyes see 60fps regardless.

So, you're full of crap.

I can feel when game runs in low fps, doesn't it matter if TV run in 60fps if the source runs 30 and lower fps... it just mean TV will show same frame more times which not give a "smooth" experience in fast games like shooters.

My eyes not lying, you are full of crap dude...

casualization like on the 360

DRM like on PC

Online fees like on 360

• Lack of Blu-ray drive
• Stupid new innovations - they always end up being gimmicks. Just look at Nintendo's stuff...
• DualShock redesign
• Cloud-gaming on PS4
• Casualised games - rubbish simple games

Things i don't want is:

• Digital-download games only
• Small Hard-drives
• Have to pay for online
• Waggie Controls
• Under 1080p/60fps
• Lack of Blu-ray drive

aroxx_ab

DRM that requires you to be online to play a console game like some PC games require these days

Low amount of RAM

Cell CPU

I would happily pay $800 for a game console if it had a high-end CPU, lots of RAM, and a high end GPU with lots of VRAM,and an decent sized SSD, if it was worth it.

-Used games. Seriously, let the devs make some money so they can lower game prices and take chances on less formulaic games.

-Motion controls. Let Kidtendo do all the gimmicks.

-Low RAM.

-Cell processor. I want to see the PS4 and 720 have atleast somewhat similar architecture.

-No used games. Seriously, let the devs make some money so they can lower prices and take chances on less formulaic games.

-No motion controls. Let Kidtendo do all the gimmicks.

Boddicker

to see no Disc Slot for any of the New Systems will make me not want to buy them.

I already have a PC.

lol wii u is a next gen console to this post is a total bust

but thats already guarenteed for me

on other consoles

1-no used games thats a big issue

2 digital only , not counting small arcade games wii ware etc, if they dont include 2 tb hdd they better not go all digital

3 hdd size of 250 or less, i want at least 320-500 gb

4 -no backwards compatibilty w 360 ps3 games

5 --charging 70 bucks for games

6 -xbox live has to be kept down to 60 or put back to 50 would be more preferable

7 --don't focus all your eggs in one genre--eg fps , thats definatelly an issue this gen i won't wanna see repeated

lol wii u is a next gen console to this post is a total bust

but thats already guarenteed for me

on other consoles

1-no used games thats a big issue

2 digital only , not counting small arcade games wii ware etc, if they dont include 2 tb hdd they better not go all digital

3 hdd size of 250 or less, i want at least 320-500 gb

4 -no backwards compatibilty w 360 ps3 games

5 --charging 70 bucks for games

6 -xbox live has to be kept down to 60 or put back to 50 would be more preferable

7 --don't focus all your eggs in one genre--eg fps , thats definatelly an issue this gen i won't wanna see repeated

mariokart64fan

Yes but WiiU we already know everything about so hard to have any hope for it...with the other 2 we can still pray and hope god hear us :P

Every blockbuster a FPS.

Dualshock controller, this needs to change.

Always online games.

Grey/single colour games.

A lack of console intro, I love those things.

No Mario games

No Halo games

No God Of War games

No Call Of Duty games

No Grand Theft Auto games

No rpg or jrpg games of any kind

No motion sensing controls of any kind (no wiimote, kinect, move, etc.)

No vibrating controllers

No gimmicky 3D or gimmicky retro 2D

No 720p

No blu ray

No dvd

No DLC

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

lol wii u is a next gen console to this post is a total bust

but thats already guarenteed for me

on other consoles

1-no used games thats a big issue

2 digital only , not counting small arcade games wii ware etc, if they dont include 2 tb hdd they better not go all digital

3 hdd size of 250 or less, i want at least 320-500 gb

4 -no backwards compatibilty w 360 ps3 games

5 --charging 70 bucks for games

6 -xbox live has to be kept down to 60 or put back to 50 would be more preferable

7 --don't focus all your eggs in one genre--eg fps , thats definatelly an issue this gen i won't wanna see repeated

aroxx_ab

Yes but WiiU we already know everything about so hard to have any hope for it...with the other 2 we can still pray and hope god hear us :P

Gimmicks (Wii U tablet/Wii motion garbage/kinect/Move) and no used games. I also don't want to see sony's consoles being region locked.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

lol wii u is a next gen console to this post is a total bust

but thats already guarenteed for me

on other consoles

1-no used games thats a big issue

2 digital only , not counting small arcade games wii ware etc, if they dont include 2 tb hdd they better not go all digital

3 hdd size of 250 or less, i want at least 320-500 gb

4 -no backwards compatibilty w 360 ps3 games

5 --charging 70 bucks for games

6 -xbox live has to be kept down to 60 or put back to 50 would be more preferable

7 --don't focus all your eggs in one genre--eg fps , thats definatelly an issue this gen i won't wanna see repeated

layton2012

Yes but WiiU we already know everything about so hard to have any hope for it...with the other 2 we can still pray and hope god hear us :P

They cant charge for any online-service that not even exist...

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Yes but WiiU we already know everything about so hard to have any hope for it...with the other 2 we can still pray and hope god hear us :P

aroxx_ab

They cant charge for any online-service that not even exist...

No more online passes, day one dlc or pre-order dlc but we know they will never end since a lot of gamers support them. I have a feeling that I may skip next gen consoles since I'm sure they will still have all those crap. And oh yeah stop releasing games that are really buggy and broken and then patch them later. Actually work hard on your games first instead of releasing them with so many problems and slap some patches after.

Download only and paying for online.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

1080p and 60fps is wasted on console games.

I would prefer larger draw distances, larger environments, and more objects on screen than using the power to get to 1080p at 60fps. That's a waste for fixed hardware.

With the PC, you can just throw more hardware at it. If you can't get 1080p and 60fps, you can just wait 6 months for new hardware that can probably do it. It's a whole different platform with a different mentality.

Wasdie

Low fps gives eye-fatigue and 1080p is standard on today's TVs.

It does?Considering that TVs still refresh at 60 or greater times per second, you aren't going to get eye-fatigue on that. Even if the game is rendered at 30 fps, your eyes see 60fps regardless.

So, you're full of crap.