Think Bluray will last?

http://www.edepot.com/playstation4.html mstc_Q

Its random guesses. It won't happen.

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]http://www.edepot.com/playstation4.html SpruceCaboose

Its random guesses. It won't happen.

Makes sense though. How long did DvD last? PS2 came out when DvD was just hitting the market. 

I think they could pull off implementing a new format in 5 years.

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[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]http://www.edepot.com/playstation4.html mstc_Q

Its random guesses. It won't happen.

Makes sense though. How long did DvD last? PS2 came out when DvD was just hitting the market. 

I think they could pull off implementing a new format in 5 years.

DVD lasted from 1996 until now, plus some. Thats 12 years plus.

And when has any Sony system used a format that Sony did not invent?

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Its random guesses. It won't happen.

SpruceCaboose

Makes sense though. How long did DvD last? PS2 came out when DvD was just hitting the market. 

I think they could pull off implementing a new format in 5 years.

DVD lasted from 1996 until now, plus some. Thats 12 years plus.

And when has any Sony system used a format that Sony did not invent?

Did they invent DvD? Did they invent CD?

Did they invent DvD? Did they invent CD?

mstc_Q

Yes, and yes. They developed both jointly with a few others.

EDIT: Invent is a misnomer. They and Phillips developed CDs, and DVD was a joint venture between Phillips, Sony, Toshiba, and Matsushita among some others.

no bluray won't last. quote me if you like - i've been saying this since it was announced, that both hd-dvd and bluray would eventually fizzle. 

even br partners are admitting this holiday season is the last run for bluray. if it doesn't come close to targets then expect marketing and development to start ramping down.  

currently br is 76% or more supported by PS3, and PS3 owners aren't buying enough BR titles to support it. that's not a good sign... many people will scream that the PS3 is the best value BR player but that doesn't mean squat when sales are as poor as they are for actual films.

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Did they invent DvD? Did they invent CD?

SpruceCaboose

Yes, and yes. They developed both jointly with a few others.

EDIT: Invent is a misnomer. They and Phillips developed CDs, and DVD was a joint venture between Phillips, Sony, Toshiba, and Matsushita among some others.

 Ouch.

Are Sony even involved in the HVD project? omgimba

No. 

[QUOTE="omgimba"]Are Sony even involved in the HVD project? SpruceCaboose

No. 

Even if that's the case, if it's the "format of the future" then Sony would be stupid not to pick it up, unless they want to end up like the Dreamcast.

no bluray won't last. quote me if you like - i've been saying this since it was announced, that both hd-dvd and bluray would eventually fizzle. 

even br partners are admitting this holiday season is the last run for bluray. if it doesn't come close to targets then expect marketing and development to start ramping down.  

currently br is 76% or more supported by PS3, and PS3 owners aren't buying enough BR titles to support it. that's not a good sign... many people will scream that the PS3 is the best value BR player but that doesn't mean squat when sales are as poor as they are for actual films.

3picuri3

Well curently The DVD format is being phased out but it will be there like VHS for a while But Blu-Ray wont gain steam unless they can make manufacturing easier with existing plants, and getting players in direct price competition with the DVD players

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[QUOTE="omgimba"]Are Sony even involved in the HVD project? mstc_Q

No. 

Even if that's the case, if it's the "format of the future" then Sony would be stupid not to pick it up, unless they want to end up like the Dreamcast.

HVD is not the format of the future. If Blu-Ray does not take off (I think it will), DVD and digital distro are where I see the industry going. And I for one hope that does not happen.

And like I said, Sony makes their own formats, even when there are other alternatives. Look at UMD on the PSP.

It's got nothing to do with systems and gaming.

It's all about revitalizing film IPs. Film studios need a new form of direct to home distribution every decade or so, so that they can make money off of their old film catalogues. VHS lasted over a decade, DVD lasted over a decade, Bluray will last over a decade, and Holographics Video Disks will last over a decade. No new format will be adopted prior to the 10-15 ip rehash.

Films retain a maximum celluloid resolution of 4k digital. This gives studios 40+ years to repeatebly resell there entire film catalogue over and over again. Also giving TV manufacturers 40+ years to make new TV sets with higher resolutions.

The time line moves something like this.

10 - 15 year 240p VHS --10 - 15 years 480p DVD -- 10-15 1080p Bluray --10 -15 years 2k Holodisk--10-15 years 4k masterdisk

Sony owns a big stake in Hollywood and film, more so than they do in gaming. It is in Sony and everybody elses best interest to maintain one format for as long as possible before moving on to the next phase. Although 300gb holodisks are already available they will go into consumer circulation until BluRay has been squeezed to the last penny. That's why Sony invested so much money fighting the HD wars, to win 10-15 years of tech licensing on BluRay.

At the end it has nothing to do with technology, but rather business.