This always bothered me about the wii-mote.. it isn't revolutionary

I see why they changed the name of the system from the revoltion to the wii because then it just wouldn't be true. If the wii-mote is so revolutionary why does it have so many add ons for the wii mote ie zapper, steering wheel, and I think wii fit.

How come the best way to play fighting games is still with a regular gamecube or classic controller. I mean i hear comparisons with the wii mote and m/k. If it is just as good how come a boat load of RTSs' aren't being made. The motion contol and the pointer is good for some games, but it could also be translated on a regular controller.

So when will Nintendo step forward and push the wii mote abilities forward. In order for them to do that they are going to need to make new franchises that can demonstrate the wii mote potential. I don't know if it is there or not. So I ask seriously has the wi mote really change gaming? I found the controls fustrating when Itried it out.

The Wiimote is revolutionary...

Your ideas are wierd.

True, motion controls are nothing new, heck even Nintendo tried to capitalize on motion controls nearly 2 decades ago with the Power Glove on the NES.

The big "revolution" in the Wii, I believe, is making these motion controls the standard control scheme, not a some extra peripherial or add-on that gets included at some later date. Its standard with the system.

Whether you really find this revolutionary or better than the controls traditionally found in a console is opinion of course, but considering the Wii sales theres obviously a lot of people out there who think its a neat idea.

It's going to be revolutionary when the competitor's next gen systems will have Wiimotes of their own.

The PS3 even did that a little already.

The Wiimote is revolutionary...

Your ideas are wierd.

GundamGuy0

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

It's going to be revolutionary when the competitor's next gen systems will have Wiimotes of their own.

The PS3 even did that a little already.

Willy105

If you guys are going to tell him it's revolutionary, you could at least back it up.tbone29

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

The Wiimote is revolutionary...

Your ideas are wierd.

too_much_eslim

They made it so they could make any number of cheap add-ons. Where before stearing wheels and guns had to have all the worksings inside them. The Wii-more has all that so all they need is a plastic shell.

See that's it's something that's not been done before.... What do we call that?

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

XenoNinja

Exactly

One of the reasons I despise hyping it for so long, it just hasn't lived up to itself. Its cool for things like Wii Sports but thats where the line is drawn. Maybe if someone comes out with better technology it'll make a difference? But your never going to beat a good reliable standard configuration at the end of the day.

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

too_much_eslim

Zack & Wiki.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

The Wiimote is revolutionary...

Your ideas are wierd.

GundamGuy0

They made it so they could make any number of cheap add-ons. Where before stearing wheels and guns had to have all the worksings inside them. The Wii-more has all that so all they need is a plastic shell.

See that's it's something that's not been done before.... What do we call that?

Exactly

One of the reasons I despise hyping it for so long, it just hasn't lived up to itself. Its cool for things like Wii Sports but thats where the line is drawn. Maybe if someone comes out with better technology it'll make a difference? But your never going to beat a good reliable standard configuration at the end of the day.

tomarlyn

Intrestingly enough games are coming out now that are better on the Wii then they would be with a standard controler... Zak and Wiki being on of them.

Was analog on the N64 a revolution? Yes. Go back and play (If you own it) Super Mario 64 on the Nintendo 64. The analog controls are horrible compared to today. "Revolutions" need time to be perfected and the same thing will happen with the Wiimote.sexy_chimp

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

XenoNinja

Zack & Wiki.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Was analog on the N64 a revolution? Yes. Go back and play (If you own it) Super Mario 64 on the Nintendo 64. The analog controls are horrible compared to today. "Revolutions" need time to be perfected and the same thing will happen with the Wiimote.too_much_eslim

That wasn't the point.

Analog wasn't perfect when it came out, and neither is the Wiimote. However, analog is now accepted as the standard.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

The Wiimote is revolutionary...

Your ideas are wierd.

too_much_eslim

They made it so they could make any number of cheap add-ons. Where before stearing wheels and guns had to have all the worksings inside them. The Wii-more has all that so all they need is a plastic shell.

See that's it's something that's not been done before.... What do we call that?

Ok then buy the adaptor and get a dedicated stering wheel. The cost is still grealy reduced to the producer and consumer because all the hardware needed is already in the Wii-remote its self. A dedicated (AKA not as cheap) stearing wheel will be made... just give the 3rd parties some time.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

XenoNinja

Zack & Wiki.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/gimme/will-wright-wants-next+gen-interactivity-315015.php

next gen consoles are?

I disagree, the remote is revolutionary, it's just the games that aren't. Developers still are either too lazy to utilize the remote to its full potential, or simply don't know how. Games that do effectively utilize the remote are great. IMO though, the revolutionary part of the remote is more of its accessible remote shape rather than the motion sensing... or maybe a combo.

Oh, and the peripherals are a good thing. That's sorta what the whole point of that port on the bottom of the remote is for.

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

too_much_eslim

Zack & Wiki.

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

too_much_eslim

Zack & Wiki.

Virtually everything you do in the game you have to perform the motion like you would if you were actually using the tool or interacting with the enviroment. Sure you could accomplish everything with presses of the a button but that removes all the skill and fun from the game.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

The Wiimote is revolutionary...

Your ideas are wierd.

GundamGuy0

They made it so they could make any number of cheap add-ons. Where before stearing wheels and guns had to have all the worksings inside them. The Wii-more has all that so all they need is a plastic shell.

See that's it's something that's not been done before.... What do we call that?

Ok then buy the adaptor and get a dedicated stering wheel. The cost is still grealy reduced to the producer and consumer because all the hardware needed is already in the Wii-remote its self. A dedicated (AKA not as cheap) stearing wheel will be made... just give the 3rd parties some time.

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

The Wii-mote IS Revolutionary, so please stop.

too_much_eslim

Zack & Wiki.

Gamespot said: Zack & Wiki is the sort of weirdly engaging game that, dare we say it, probably could only really be done on the Wii hardware. The Wii-mote gives you something that isn't possible with previous controllers, which is manipulating objects in 3D space. thats revolutionary.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

Zack & Wiki.

GundamGuy0

Virtually everything you do in the game you have to perform the motion like you would if you were actually using the tool or interacting with the enviroment. Sure you could accomplish everything with presses of the a button but that removes all the skill and fun from the game.

I'd say it isn't revolutionary really at all. Of course, potentially it could turn out to be something huge, but currently it hasn't shown signs of a "revolution."

It's innovative yes, but not revolutionary. Though it may be a step in the right direction.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

Zack & Wiki.

too_much_eslim

Virtually everything you do in the game you have to perform the motion like you would if you were actually using the tool or interacting with the enviroment. Sure you could accomplish everything with presses of the a button but that removes all the skill and fun from the game.

The only thing is, with out the motion controls this game would be about as fun as hitting your head against a wall.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

I would rather have a dedicated sterring wheel. I mean the whole purpose of it is to have the immersion of being in a car. Using the wii mote steering wiheel is no different from imagining you was driving as a kid.GundamGuy0

Ok then buy the adaptor and get a dedicated stering wheel. The cost is still grealy reduced to the producer and consumer because all the hardware needed is already in the Wii-remote its self. A dedicated (AKA not as cheap) stearing wheel will be made... just give the 3rd parties some time.

You don't need alot of the peripherals that are made for any console... They are made because they add another level to the gameplay, make things more simulating.

Never the less the Way the Wii has the capabilities to mimic many styles of older peripherals and make it so such features come standard is great...

I doubt we would see RE:UC if we had to buy a light gun to play it. Plus the cost would be higher so fewer copies would be sold...

The Wii-mote makes things that developers at one time had to pay for themselves and made them standard so that they can make many more types of games if they want.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

Zack & Wiki.

GundamGuy0

Virtually everything you do in the game you have to perform the motion like you would if you were actually using the tool or interacting with the enviroment. Sure you could accomplish everything with presses of the a button but that removes all the skill and fun from the game.

The only thing is, with out the motion controls this game would be about as fun as hitting your head against a wall.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

Zack & Wiki.

GundamGuy0

Virtually everything you do in the game you have to perform the motion like you would if you were actually using the tool or interacting with the enviroment. Sure you could accomplish everything with presses of the a button but that removes all the skill and fun from the game.

The only thing is, with out the motion controls this game would be about as fun as hitting your head against a wall.

Lol.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Was analog on the N64 a revolution? Yes. Go back and play (If you own it) Super Mario 64 on the Nintendo 64. The analog controls are horrible compared to today. "Revolutions" need time to be perfected and the same thing will happen with the Wiimote.too_much_eslim

Same.

Analogue was a revolution and quite necessary for 3D gaming, the Wiimote shouldn't be put in the same category save a couple of niche genre's. I go back to dual analogue and prefer it in many cases, it just feels right. I have RE4 Wii Edition but went back to my Gamecube save, it dumbed down the gameplay and wasn't worth starting again for. Same great game but motion and waggle wasn't needed.

I'd love to see some RTSs on the Wii. It could really work well.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I'd love to see some RTSs on the Wii. It could really work well.too_much_eslim

I'd love to see some RTSs on the Wii. It could really work well.SolidSnake35

Yeah, the Wii-mote would be perfect for RTS games.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I'd love to see some RTSs on the Wii. It could really work well.Haziqonfire

No, it's a 4x, or TBS if you prefer that terminology.

It is revolutionary, it just has yet to be executed properly. nintendofreak_2

This sounds just like the DS. At first, nothing showed the innovation and revolutionary controls of the DS. Then, games started coming out that were innovative and awesome.

It's just a matter of time, that's all.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I'd love to see some RTSs on the Wii. It could really work well.agentfred

No, it's a 4x, or TBS if you prefer that terminology.

TBS? 4X? lol.
Haziqonfire

Turn Based Strategy(?), but... what is 4X? :P

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I'd love to see some RTSs on the Wii. It could really work well.Haziqonfire

No, it's a 4x, or TBS if you prefer that terminology.

What do you mean?