This Christmas I realised why PS3 might win!

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#1 Marcbarr1
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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

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Well you also have to assume that a good amount made the jump to another console.
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I think that is the only possiblity Sony has left for how they can "win" this gen
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The majority of us may make fun of the PS3 myself included but I still feel the PS3 wil eventually pass the 360 because it will sell for a longer time than the 360. After all we are what? 3 years away from a new Xbox?
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You mean come 2nd place right? ;)
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You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique
i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)prodiqy32
i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

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[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

Third place since in SW we are supposed to consider the PC a console.
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#9 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The ps3 sure is winning in something and thats in the worst sales, and 0 AAAE exclusive department :lol:
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Riverwolf007

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

Third place since in SW we are supposed to consider the PC a console.

We don't know how much gaming PCs are sold.

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The ps3 sure is winning in something and thats in the worst sales, and 0 AAAE exclusive department :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx
have fun playing Galaxy while we play Vegas , Cod, Orange Box, Rock Band, Assasin's Creed, NGS, Oblivion
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#12 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]The ps3 sure is winning in something and thats in the worst sales, and 0 AAAE exclusive department :lol:St_JimmyX
have fun playing Galaxy while we play Vegas , Cod, Orange Box, Rock Band, Assasin's Creed, NGS, Oblivion

The thing about your argument is I played all those games on my 360 :lol: and I would take Galaxy over any of them :wink:
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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

Marcbarr1

"Win" is such a relative word. Marketshare determines how gaming console ownership is distributed over the market. Mindshare determines who the general public views as the "generic" for the industry. Like Clorox is to bleach or Kleenex to tissue paper. Those are two different things. Last generation, PS2 owned marketshare at 70% but when non-gamers referred to a system spontaneously, Xbox always came out first.

The Wii already has sold more hardware with limited supply. It will likely garner the most marketshare, but not by much. The PS3 will eventually reach a more affordable, mass-market price point to reach a strong second in hardware dist'n numbers. The 360 will fall behind. But hardware is not the only bullet in the gun. Don't get me started on software...

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[QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)prodiqy32
i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

sum1s mad bc their losing. 1 year head start and still out sold next time u should try 2 years
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Every since the price cut the 40gb ps3 has been selling more than the xbox 360 in Europe and other countries and in Japan (always have). It is only being beaten in America . However, the overall sales of the ps3 every month for the past 6 weeks or so have either been the same as the 360 or higher according to vg chartz.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

ps3- 8.12 million sold (this are the sales till dec 23rd.)

xbox360- 15.32 million sold

the 360 was released an year before the ps3 and at that time the sales were at least over 8 million when the ps3 was released. Since than it as only sold 7.32 million, while the ps3 has sold 8.12 million. However, more games are being sold on the 360 because of hard hitters like halo3, gears of war, and mass effect. One with good eyes can easily see that the ps3 has a superior lineup of exclusives compared to other consoles. Here is a list-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3_exclusives

If you look carefully any gamer will know that most of the old ps3 exclusives are multimillion selling franchises.

With all the good exclusives coming out next year, I bet sony will give the ps3 another price cut around march. (they always have a price cut around then)

This means the ps3 will equal or surpass the 360 in sales next year. I don't know about the wii though. just MAYBE that too but very unlikely. The playstation brand is very very strong. The ps2 has over 120 million users. According to a gametrailers year in review vid, an analyst said that 90% of the 360 owners were owners of the original xbox. Some ps2 owners have converted to wii. So there are still a large number of people waiting there on the ps2 for the ps3 to come to an even lower price or waiting for those good ol exclusives to com out. And then, they will go for the ps3.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

Third place since in SW we are supposed to consider the PC a console.

We don't know how much gaming PCs are sold.

Until a pc comes out without Minefield and solitiare it's all of them.
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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

Marcbarr1

You've been using that Crystal Ball your parents gave you for Christmas alot, haven't you!

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I'm not so sure PS3 games will be easy to pirate. People surrounding me bought a PS2 cause of the 'free games'.
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[QUOTE="St_JimmyX"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]The ps3 sure is winning in something and thats in the worst sales, and 0 AAAE exclusive department :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx
have fun playing Galaxy while we play Vegas , Cod, Orange Box, Rock Band, Assasin's Creed, NGS, Oblivion

The thing about your argument is I played all those games on my 360 :lol: and I would take Galaxy over any of them :wink:

Over any of them? Maybe. But over all of them? Pull the other one.

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[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

so for (certain) PS fans its now the PC doesn't count, the Wii doesn't count, hey if we don't count the 360 PS3 is teh winner!
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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Riverwolf007

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

Third place since in SW we are supposed to consider the PC a console.

We don't know how much gaming PCs are sold.

Until a pc comes out without Minefield and solitiare it's all of them.

pwned :) or aresheep going to argue about games being of a certain level to be counted :P
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You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique
Behind the computer? Yup! ;)
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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

Marcbarr1

You don't think the average gamer cares? EVERYONE doesn't think the "average gamer" disagrees with their perspective. By proxy you're claiming you yourself are part of this statistical "average" or at least know enough of them to have an informed basis of reference. I certainly can't prove or disprove that, but then neither can you. Hence why arguments based on opinion are not welcome here and are better placed in a blog.

As for your unshakable truth, born of the persperation of your nephew... let me counter with my christmas insight. See, MY nephew made me realize the true meaning of christmas personally. But then I was into the whole "Family togetherness thing" rather then, "Dude... you got him aPS TRIPLE! I gotta get home! This is gonna be the best post christmas postEVAH! God bless us, everyone!"

What's funny is, I don't even neccessarily disagree. But your post is nothing but conjecture, personal opinion, and broad sweeping statments about an imagined "silent gamer majority". Hence... next Christmas, get yourself a Blog.

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If, and this is a big if, but if the PS3 can get those PS2 owners to come on board for PS3, then yes it'll win and big time. MS really left the door open for Sony with the hardware failures. My roomate is on his third 360 and my cousin's are on their fourth. Sad part is their story is nothing different from hundreds if not thousands of others.
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Well you also have to assume that a good amount made the jump to another console.LTomlinson21

Actually, a good amount haven't made the jump. The installed base of the 360 and PS3 together don't even come close to the total of PS2's out there. There are a lot of people sitting on the fence waiting to get into this next-gen.

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Well you also have to assume that a good amount made the jump to another console.LTomlinson21

From an user base of more than 120 million consumers, what do you consider a "good amount"?

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Well you also have to assume that a good amount made the jump to another console.LTomlinson21

NOT REALLY AT LEAST NOT 360, maybe wii

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[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

yes...ive seen these fanboy responses to
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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

Marcbarr1

And its awful that people buy stuff just because of the name on the box. PS3 didnt even get CLOSE to living up to the hype, yet dilusional, brand loyalty blinded, mainstream thinking people think it did, and think its the best console out there. Its even come to Sony sheeple fanboys using media, sales numbers and other non-gaming features to make it sound like the best. It SHOULD be a game console first! But, theres no need to try to communicate these things with the dilusional... Sony sheeple will always be Sony sheeple. They just happen to be the worst fanboys of the bunch... I will have one console this gen and that is the 360. Its proven itself and is a solid game machine FIRST, as well as a great media center and awesome online community.

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[QUOTE="Marcbarr1"]

I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

lasberry

"Win" is such a relative word. Marketshare determines how gaming console ownership is distributed over the market. Mindshare determines who the general public views as the "generic" for the industry. Like Clorox is to bleach or Kleenex to tissue paper. Those are two different things. Last generation, PS2 owned marketshare at 70% but when non-gamers referred to a system spontaneously, Xbox always came out first.

The Wii already has sold more hardware with limited supply. It will likely garner the most marketshare, but not by much. The PS3 will eventually reach a more affordable, mass-market price point to reach a strong second in hardware dist'n numbers. The 360 will fall behind. But hardware is not the only bullet in the gun. Don't get me started on software...

What are you talking about? Go ahead... get started on the software! Being a Sony sheeple, how can you diss any other console lineup, especially 360?!?! Sony sheeple are just mentally gone! What are they thinking about?!

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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

Marcbarr1

Preaching to the choir. I stated that, I too, had 3 DRE on the PS2, but PS2 was my type of system. I had an Xbox360 and it RROD on me. Didn''t bother for repairs. Just returned it.Xbox360 is not the Playstation brand! I won't spend my time going through 360s like I did with the PS2. Especially when the Playstation games are better.

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[QUOTE="Marcbarr1"]

I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

King_of_Sorrow

Preaching to the choir. I stated that, I too, had 3 DRE on the PS2, but PS2 was my type of system. I had an Xbox360 and it RROD on me. Didn''t bother for repairs. Just returned it.Xbox360 is not the Playstation brand! I won't spend my time going through 360s like I did with the PS2. Especially when the Playstation games are better.


You're damn right the Xbox 360 is not the PlayStation brand!  That's why it's not failing miserably like the PS3!
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I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

Marcbarr1

Yes, there are arguments against this, most will move from PS2 to the cheapest first (Wii), cheapest but with best graphics second (360) and the most expensive later (PS3)

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[QUOTE="Marcbarr1"]

I own 360 and PS3 and this christmas my nephew made me realise why PS3 might win. He woke up christmas morning to a PS3 and when I asked him and his parents why they had chosen this over the 360 this is what they said.

His mum wanted it because on PS2 she was able to buy him games of his age group and she feels, "the 360 has all grown up game does it not?". My cousin wants it because it is the successor to the PS2 even though he went through 3 of them with disc read errors and the fact that in his youth club all of the other kids who have the 360 have had them break down and having to wait weeks to have it repaired with terrible customer service. And his dad bought it because he had heard these horror stories too.

This is why I think the PS3 will win, because of all those PS2 owners out there waiting to go next-gen. I know you will have many arguments against this but I don't think the average gamer cares if the PS3 has a few extra jaggies or frame rate drops because like my cousin they don't care and don't compare their version to the 360 version.

All they want is the brand name playstation under their television.

King_of_Sorrow

Preaching to the choir. I stated that, I too, had 3 DRE on the PS2, but PS2 was my type of system. I had an Xbox360 and it RROD on me. Didn''t bother for repairs. Just returned it.Xbox360 is not the Playstation brand! I won't spend my time going through 360s like I did with the PS2. Especially when the Playstation games are better.

For christmas I got a PS3 and it murdered my family, killed every last one. I just returned it and decided to stick with my 360 as the PS3 didn't have any games worth playing and having owned it for a full 2 days I'd already played every exclusive all the way through, twice.
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[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Riverwolf007

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

Third place since in SW we are supposed to consider the PC a console.

yup. The console war is a fight for second.
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Eponique"]You mean come 2nd place right? ;)Eponique

i see your a fanboy reguardless of what thread your in. and i think he means between the 360 and PS3. the Wii is in a different market then the PS3 and 360 are in. run along and play chicken shoot.

Heh, typical fanboy response. "buh buh the wii doesn't count :cry:".

Third place since in SW we are supposed to consider the PC a console.

We don't know how much gaming PCs are sold.

you can estimate by the number of gaming cards sold.