This for everyone

Ok this has most definatly been bugging me for a long time. After reading alot of all your posts I got to thinking and start researching. The thing that really bugs me is that all of you hate on the Wii just because you do not thing it is graphically advanced compared to the 360 or PS3. But sorry to say you are sadly mistaken if you are saying that you cant take a game like Halo 3 and port it to the Wii. Trust me this is not another "The Conduit" thread. The Wii can actually do alot of the things taht the 360/PS3 can do. Maybe yes to an extent you are right in some ways the Wii is not as advanced just because it is not HD. Personally in my opion yes HD is awesome but to me its not that realistic. Do you see people or when you are walking around in the real life do you see people shinning. I think not!!! But any ways thats off the subject. The Wii has something that developers dont like to talk about. Its called The TEV or (Texture Inviornmet Unit). Does everything that a 360/PS3 does but with a catch. You have to do everything by hand. In other words you have to actually put some work into the games that you are doing. The 360/PS3 does all this by its self. Shading, Lighting, etc. etc. Which makes what we call lazy developers today. So when you see a game brought to the Wii they just try to sneak this past you and say that this is all the Wii can do. Actually to tell you the truth the Game Cube had the exact same thing just was not used that much because the original XBOX had the same thing. To tell you the truth the game cube could do everything that the xbox could do if not better. And for everyone saying that the Wii can barely pull off XBOX level graphics are sadly mistaken because the Wii all around is about 3 times as powerful as the original XBOX. We just have lazy developers these days that dont have any passion what so ever in making games. And yes im going to bring this up. I think the only developers these day that do have passion are the creators of Mario, Zelda, The Conduit and so on. Because they are not lazy.

And if you dont believe me

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

please do read

And please do post back i would love to hear some comments

Wii isn't really bashed for graphics as much as it is for it's poor library compared to the PC, PS3, and 360.

Wii isn't really bashed for graphics as much as it is for it's poor library compared to the PC, PS3, and 360.

Legendaryscmt

Blogspot

Unless I've mistaken it for another site, Blogspot also had an article about Hardcore games such as House of the Dead and Madworld not selling well, which ignited a number of threads on this message board. Of course, that turned out to be totally false once Sega released an update on how those games were selling. You can't believe everything on that site. It's a very opinion based.

Really, Wii cannot pull off games like Halo 3, Perfect Dark Zero, and Resident Evil 5. The system specs are not good enough. Even if you cut a lot of corners and pulled off some serious programming voodoo, you won't get the same graphic quality. The system just can't do it. Now, don't get me wrong, Wii is capable of much more than what most developers are making on it today. On one hand you have games like M&Ms Cart Racing and Petz, and on the other we have Super Mario Galaxy and Madworld. It's obvious most devs just aren't doing much with the hardware.

Is Wii capable of pulling off graphics superior to Xbox 1, yes with the exception of higher resolutions. Xbox 360 level, no.

actually the wii can come close to xbox 360 graphics. maybe not right now but early to mid life xbox 360 graphics. The thing that gets me about the 360 is that you go out and by a game any more sure the graphics look good but to me it seems they put more time into the graphics than into the gameplay. Do you see where im coming from. Dont get me wrong I like the 360 its just that I dont go out to buy a console to play the exact same games just with different characters. Its like someone comes and is like there is this bad ass shooter coming the the 360. and your like oh ya ok. You dont get as much hype about it as you would say on a Wii. Where you would be like oh ya that really kewl because there is more of a selection on say the Wii. Like i said i dont by a console to play the same games in different forms.

bad system, bad graphics, bad games, whats more to talk about. im thinking of buying one tho(well i really want to play punch out) and i guess ill pick up the other 8 or 9 games that are good.. but really out of like maybe a thousand games,, theres only about 10 games worth playing. sooo,,,,, this is why people bash this system.. get over it.

im going to be honest

im not a wii fanboy

i have a 360 and i play it just the fact is is that it doesnt have variety

its all the exact same thing

unlike the wii

i mean sure it doesnt have the best games but its getting there and at least im not playing the exact same thing just in a different form and with a different name

and sometimes non HD games do look more relistic than HD games

SOMETIMES

The other things with 360 games is that when devs are making the games they forget about what it is all about

they forget about the actual gameplay and worry more about the graphics

cough cough Gears of War, Halo3

im going to be honest

im not a wii fanboy

i have a 360 and i play it just the fact is is that it doesnt have variety

its all the exact same thing

unlike the wii

i mean sure it doesnt have the best games but its getting there and at least im not playing the exact same thing just in a different form and with a different name

and sometimes non HD games do look more relistic than HD games

SOMETIMES

The other things with 360 games is that when devs are making the games they forget about what it is all about

they forget about the actual gameplay and worry more about the graphics

cough cough Gears of War, Halo3

grungey301

... Wow ... There's so much wrong with the OP ....

... I'm so overwhelmed I don't even know where to begin ...

Your understanding of technology is abysmal. Your assertions that the Wii can do Xbox 360 graphics and that the Gamecube could do Xbox level graphics is so wrong that I don't even need to comment on it. The people here already know what I'm talking about.

Shovelware. A wii fanboy claiming "HD graphics" are unrealistic. Now I've seen it all.Johnny-n-Roger

I don't think he understand what HD means. Resolution doesn't change the game's appearance. It only lessens jaggies ... and I don't think anyone prefers jaggies :D

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]Shovelware. A wii fanboy claiming "HD graphics" are unrealistic. Now I've seen it all.DeckardLee

I don't think he understand what HD means. Resolution doesn't change the game's appearance. It only lessens jaggies ... and I don't think anyone prefers jaggies :D

Sure if you say so...lazy developers right. Let's talk the universal language for media --> $$$ if they can invest some money and maximize the initial amount they put into the game there making the game. So to apply your lame theory that you read on a blog, so you can understand (btw Im not bashing on you so dont get hurt) the WII out sales the xbox 360 and the PS3 for the sake of the argument lets say for every xbox there are 5 wii's and the same for the ps3. So now lets take a game that was popular on both system GTA4 if they ported the game with the same graphics and all the extras on the wii it will make way more money that on the other system so why did they not do that ? The Wii is and inferior system when it comes to graphics period

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]Shovelware. A wii fanboy claiming "HD graphics" are unrealistic. Now I've seen it all.kidcool189

I don't think he understand what HD means. Resolution doesn't change the game's appearance. It only lessens jaggies ... and I don't think anyone prefers jaggies :D

Blogspot

Unless I've mistaken it for another site, Blogspot also had an article about Hardcore games such as House of the Dead and Madworld not selling well, which ignited a number of threads on this message board. Of course, that turned out to be totally false once Sega released an update on how those games were selling. You can't believe everything on that site. It's a very opinion based.

YearoftheSnake5

Am I the only one who noticed this?

bad system, bad graphics, bad games, whats more to talk about. im thinking of buying one tho(well i really want to play punch out) and i guess ill pick up the other 8 or 9 games that are good.. but really out of like maybe a thousand games,, theres only about 10 games worth playing. sooo,,,,, this is why people bash this system.. get over it.

iamshivy

People can say the same things about the PS3 or 360.

I don't dislike the Wii, but it isn't for me. I don't like the motion controlling aspect, I'll stick with the standard controller. It has nothing to do with graphics.

Also: what does it matter if people are bashing the Wii on system wars? I mean.. it's system wars.. everything is bashed.

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]Shovelware. A wii fanboy claiming "HD graphics" are unrealistic. Now I've seen it all.kidcool189

I don't think he understand what HD means. Resolution doesn't change the game's appearance. It only lessens jaggies ... and I don't think anyone prefers jaggies :D

Anti-aliasing works by upsampling the output to a higher resolution then downsampling it to the current resolution. What's your point?

actually the wii can come close to xbox 360 graphics. maybe not right now but early to mid life xbox 360 graphics.

grungey301

oh my god you guys just dont understand what im saying i said almost ALMOST make 360 graphics

i do admit that the library is meh not that good but for the mature and teen games i happen to think that they are pretty good like Madworld that was a pretty good game. At least they are thinking of new ideas other than just the same old thing.

do you see where im coming from now

Wii sucks.

Ok this has most definatly been bugging me for a long time. After reading alot of all your posts I got to thinking and start researching. The thing that really bugs me is that all of you hate on the Wii just because you do not thing it is graphically advanced compared to the 360 or PS3. But sorry to say you are sadly mistaken if you are saying that you cant take a game like Halo 3 and port it to the Wii. Trust me this is not another "The Conduit" thread. The Wii can actually do alot of the things taht the 360/PS3 can do. Maybe yes to an extent you are right in some ways the Wii is not as advanced just because it is not HD. Personally in my opion yes HD is awesome but to me its not that realistic. Do you see people or when you are walking around in the real life do you see people shinning. I think not!!! But any ways thats off the subject. The Wii has something that developers dont like to talk about. Its called The TEV or (Texture Inviornmet Unit). Does everything that a 360/PS3 does but with a catch. You have to do everything by hand. In other words you have to actually put some work into the games that you are doing. The 360/PS3 does all this by its self. Shading, Lighting, etc. etc. Which makes what we call lazy developers today. So when you see a game brought to the Wii they just try to sneak this past you and say that this is all the Wii can do. Actually to tell you the truth the Game Cube had the exact same thing just was not used that much because the original XBOX had the same thing. To tell you the truth the game cube could do everything that the xbox could do if not better. And for everyone saying that the Wii can barely pull off XBOX level graphics are sadly mistaken because the Wii all around is about 3 times as powerful as the original XBOX. We just have lazy developers these days that dont have any passion what so ever in making games. And yes im going to bring this up. I think the only developers these day that do have passion are the creators of Mario, Zelda, The Conduit and so on. Because they are not lazy.

And if you dont believe me

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

please do read

And please do post back i would love to hear some comments

grungey301

I dont hate on the Wii, in fact i used to have one, and some of the games have great graphics, only problem i had with the system is the lack of games that interested me. The first party stuff was great, got zelda and mario and ssbb, but after that there was a dryspell and it didnt really justify me having it just collecting dust, I mean it's almost a year since i got SSBB and the next game that caught my eye was punch out, my friend has a wii so i figure i'll get punch out for her Birthday and just play it at her place.

im going to be honest

im not a wii fanboy

i have a 360 and i play it just the fact is is that it doesnt have variety

its all the exact same thing

unlike the wii

i mean sure it doesnt have the best games but its getting there and at least im not playing the exact same thing just in a different form and with a different name

and sometimes non HD games do look more relistic than HD games

SOMETIMES

The other things with 360 games is that when devs are making the games they forget about what it is all about

they forget about the actual gameplay and worry more about the graphics

cough cough Gears of War, Halo3

grungey301

WRONG!!

I dislike (I don't hate it) the wii because when Nintendo first announced it they say said they set out to market it toward casuals and non-gamers...and thus, it became non-existant as a relavent game console in my eyes.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26479404

here are some examples compared to the conduit

but there are still more

but wait i have a question

why dont they make games for the wii to

besides the graphics

like oblivion

or halo

or any other shotters

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]Shovelware. A wii fanboy claiming "HD graphics" are unrealistic. Now I've seen it all.kidcool189

I don't think he understand what HD means. Resolution doesn't change the game's appearance. It only lessens jaggies ... and I don't think anyone prefers jaggies :D

The Wii's limitations does effect it elsewhere than the graphics department like AI or how much content can be put into a game.

Shovelware. A wii fanboy claiming "HD graphics" are unrealistic. Now I've seen it all.Johnny-n-Roger

I don't like the Wii because it has last gen specs, which makes it a last gen system. So I compare it to the PS2 and the PS2 wins. So before i waste my money buying a Wii for $250, I would much rather spend that $250 on PS2 games. And considering I don't like motion control, that puts the PS2 as a better experience for me than the Wii. BUT....I do not hate the Wii. I just don't like it.

actually the wii can come close to xbox 360 graphics. maybe not right now but early to mid life xbox 360 graphics.

grungey301

Ok this has most definatly been bugging me for a long time. After reading alot of all your posts I got to thinking and start researching. The thing that really bugs me is that all of you hate on the Wii just because you do not thing it is graphically advanced compared to the 360 or PS3. But sorry to say you are sadly mistaken if you are saying that you cant take a game like Halo 3 and port it to the Wii. Trust me this is not another "The Conduit" thread. The Wii can actually do alot of the things taht the 360/PS3 can do. Maybe yes to an extent you are right in some ways the Wii is not as advanced just because it is not HD. Personally in my opion yes HD is awesome but to me its not that realistic. Do you see people or when you are walking around in the real life do you see people shinning. I think not!!! But any ways thats off the subject. The Wii has something that developers dont like to talk about. Its called The TEV or (Texture Inviornmet Unit). Does everything that a 360/PS3 does but with a catch. You have to do everything by hand. In other words you have to actually put some work into the games that you are doing. The 360/PS3 does all this by its self. Shading, Lighting, etc. etc. Which makes what we call lazy developers today. So when you see a game brought to the Wii they just try to sneak this past you and say that this is all the Wii can do. Actually to tell you the truth the Game Cube had the exact same thing just was not used that much because the original XBOX had the same thing. To tell you the truth the game cube could do everything that the xbox could do if not better. And for everyone saying that the Wii can barely pull off XBOX level graphics are sadly mistaken because the Wii all around is about 3 times as powerful as the original XBOX. We just have lazy developers these days that dont have any passion what so ever in making games. And yes im going to bring this up. I think the only developers these day that do have passion are the creators of Mario, Zelda, The Conduit and so on. Because they are not lazy.

And if you dont believe me

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

please do read

And please do post back i would love to hear some comments

grungey301

You do know that halo 3's textures are among the highest in consoles at about 2048*2048. Halo needs AF to shine though.