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#1 jamacian_zombie
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Compared to the last one. Aside from MGS4 we haven't really had any games on any console that is at legendary status. Last gen we had tons, now we are overwhelmed by first-person shooters and mediocore mainstream games (Guitar Hero, Call Of Duty...). The only genres that seem to be progressing are RPG's and fps'.While the technology has certainly progressed, overall game quality has gone downhill. Show me a game made in the past 4 years that can stand up to Half Life 2, The Sands Of Time, God Of War, Shadow Of The Colossus, Resident Evil 4...

The list goes on. Anyone else agree we need a decent game? :|

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#2 HerzogJan
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I agree, but i expect some classics to emerge when Sony is on steam, wtih their biggest 1st party titles like GoW3, Gran Turismo 5 and Trico.

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#3 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Mario Galaxy, Bioshock, Fallout 3, Dead Space and many more. Awesome gen, indeed.
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#4 killerfist
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I'm satisfied.
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#5 cool_beans1
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If Mass Effect wasn't arround then I'd agree with ya 100%
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#6 Ratchet_Fan8
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agreed,last gen we had alteast an "ok" game coming each weak this gen it takes 1 or 2 months >_> MS=money first,games later SONY=late to the party (catching up tho) Wii=Wii music DS=ok good..but...its GBA 1.2,i actually liked GBA better PSP=....good thing..but...very small collection (IMO)
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#7 XH-Z22V3
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Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen Dull
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#8 PAL360
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Im loving it. After the 16 bit one this is my favourite generation ever

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#9 Javy03
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Are you just complaining to complain because all of those games you listed as top tier did not launch in the same year or anywhere close. It took quite a few years to build up all of those quality titles and during those years we had crappy and good games as well. As for this gen. I do agree FPS are too overwhelming, this is the first gen I played FPS online and it is already played out for me. However this gen. allows me to sharpen my fighting game skills thanks to standard online with most games. This is HUGE, my love for fighters is back and I still have quality titles under my belt likeMario Galaxy,Uncharted, HS, Rachet and Clank, Dead Space, MGS4, RE5, SF4, SC4 and more and its only been what two or three years for PS3 owners. Thats great!

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Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen DullXH-Z22V3

valkyria chronicles is a SRPG with a touch of TPS.

i can say that between MGS4, SF4, RE5 and a pletheora of others, i fail to see whats dull about this generation

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#11 jamacian_zombie
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Mario Galaxy, Bioshock, Fallout 3, Dead Space and many more. Awesome gen, indeed.IronBass

It's all based on opinion, but I think most of us can agree that 64 (Even if it wasn't last gen) destroys Galaxy. Bioshock, however, was great. I should add that one. Dead Space really just doesn't come close to RE4. But as I said in the OP, RPG's are most assuredly progressing but the rest are falling behind.

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#12 heretrix
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You need a decent game?

MGS 4

Uncharted

Crackdown

Killzone 2

GTA 4

RE 5

Fallout 3

GRAW 1 2

Halo 3

Bioshock

COD 2, 4 5

The Witcher

Mass Effect

Dawn of War 2

Crysis, Crysis Warhead

I'm not even counting all of the independent games, XBLA PSN and VC, DS and PSP titles that I liked. What the hell is wrong with some of you guys? This gen is awesome. What the hell are you comparing it to the last one for? Just frickking enjoy it.

Learn to have fun, dammit.

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Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen DullXH-Z22V3
Valkyria was made by Namco, not Sony and they are not Sony exclusive devs. If I recall correctly Sony is leading in platformers.
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#14 Hungry_Homer111
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I'm absolutely loving this gen. Granted, I didn't get as many games last gen as I should have, but that's part of what I love about this gen is that it's perfect for getting games that I didn't play before (through downloadable games, BC, and compilations). But even apart from that, this gen has a lot of great games. I probably only have about 1% of the new games that I want to get for my Wii and 360, let alone getting a DS, PSP, and PS3 eventually. The games that I do have are admittedly varied in quality, but there are only a couple games that I didn't really care for. Apart from those, the games IMO have ranged from good to amazing. Not saying that it's better than any of the previous gens, but it's just a great gen overall for me.
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Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen DullXH-Z22V3
If someone doesnt know what a Fanboy is this guy is one. Fallout 3 is an RPG and guess what oh it has guns....
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[QUOTE="XH-Z22V3"]Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen DullJavy03
Valkyria was made by Namco, not Sony and they are not Sony exclusive devs. If I recall correctly Sony is leading in platformers.

Still their best RPG is more or less a shooter which is lame imo
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#17 bobbetybob
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No legendary games, who gives a crap, I'm happy to sit here playing my unlegendary games and having fun than waiting for a game that might be the best thing ever. Who cares if a game isn't revolutionary or super amazingly awesome, as long as it's fun to play I don't care.
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#18 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Learn to have fun, dammit.heretrix
THIS. People really like to complain >_> Btw. that list needs more Wii.
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#19 stike22
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This is clearly the worst gen of games ever. All the consoles have something wrong with them. 2 of the consoles flopped on release. One of the consoles has more hardware issues then any other console to date. One of the consoles is getting endless shovelware The last one isn't worth the price and it takes ages for them to make even a single game on it. The games this gen are either all sequels or clones. The amount of games that keep getting delayed this gen, and the constant months of waiting for decent games. They seriously need to learn to release good games at different times. Last years E3 was a joke. And the list just goes on, then again there have been some good games this gen, not as many as their should be, but some were great.
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I agree, I've had fun with Mass Effect but that's really it. I want something fresh damn it! :x

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#21 akif22
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it's been good enough so far mario galaxy, portal, bioshock, mgs4 there'll surely be some huge games we don't much about yet
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#22 Swift_Boss_A
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I agree, but i expect some classics to emerge when Sony is on steam, wtih their biggest 1st party titles like GoW3, Gran Turismo 5 and Trico.

HerzogJan


The exact 3 games I would have said as well, When Team Ico showcases their game this gen is gonna get a whole lot better :D
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Mario Galaxy, Bioshock, Fallout 3, Dead Space and many more. Awesome gen, indeed.IronBass

Sadly as good as those games were they were not as fresh and innovative as for example Okami was last gen. All those games borrowed the gameplay from others just the settings are different for example Dead Space is RE4 in Space.

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#24 BioShockOwnz
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I wasn't a big fan of last gen and I don't think MGS4 is "legendary", so I guess we see things differently.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Mario Galaxy, Bioshock, Fallout 3, Dead Space and many more. Awesome gen, indeed.nVidiaGaMer

Sadly as good as those games were they were not as fresh and innovative as for example Okami was last gen. All those games borrowed the gameplay from others just the settings are different for example Dead Space is RE4 in Space.

Well, I don't care. Innovation is overrated, anyways. Sure, some fresh games are always welcome, but, for me at least, is not a decisive factor. Those games are simply excellent, and I've had hours and hours of fun with them.
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Mario Galaxy, Bioshock, Fallout 3, Dead Space and many more. Awesome gen, indeed.IronBass

Sadly as good as those games were they were not as fresh and innovative as for example Okami was last gen. All those games borrowed the gameplay from others just the settings are different for example Dead Space is RE4 in Space.

Well, I don't care. Innovation is overrated, anyways. Sure, some fresh games are always welcome, but, for me at least, is not a decisive factor. Those games are simply excellent, and I've had hours and hours of fun with them.

Dead Space was good but I preferred Silent Hill Homecoming. Bioshock was great the setting and atmosphere are what made it good.

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#27 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Dead Space was good but I preferred Silent Hill Homecoming. Bioshock was great the setting and atmosphere are what made it good.nVidiaGaMer
I've not played SHH, but I'm not sure if it is comparable to Dead Space. Dead Space is not meant to be considered Survival Horro, imo. It is more a Action/Adventure game with some TPS combat mechanics (extremely well polished, btw). An interesting story, outstanding athmosphere, great attention to the details and nice unlockables/collectibles made it one of my favorites games this gen. Bioshock was godly 8)
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#28 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Mario Galaxy, and many more. Awesome gen, indeed.IronBass
Fixed it for ya. :P

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="XH-Z22V3"]Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen DullXH-Z22V3
Valkyria was made by Namco, not Sony and they are not Sony exclusive devs. If I recall correctly Sony is leading in platformers.

Still their best RPG is more or less a shooter which is lame imo

Mass Effect and Fallout 3. :) That does bring up a good point though. There are some great games that are truly unique from any other games this gen (Trauma Center comes to mind), but for the most part, the biggest innovations don't come from new ideas, but the blending of ideas and genres. First person puzzle games (Portal). RPG shooters (the games that I listed above. Platformer puzzles (Braid and Henry Hatsworth), etc. I think that in some ways, devs have run out of things they can do that are 100% original, but that doesn't mean that they can't be creative in other ways, like coming up with interesting ways to blend existing genres, or expand on existing ideas within genres (twisting gravity and spherical worlds have been done in some ways before, but never to the extent and greatness of SMG). I can see how this might be disappointing for some people, that the only real innovations come from other peoples' ideas and all that, but I can't really see any huge innovations coming any time soon, unless if something comes completely out of the blue and invents a whole new (non-blended) genre. As it is, I'll take whatever interesting twists on games as I can, because they have come up with some truly amazing games because of it. And while there are admittedly a lot of games that don't do anything new and innovative (even in terms of using other people's ideas in creative ways), it doesn't neccessarily mean that those games are bad, because they can be very fun sometimes, and if done right, can be just as great as some of the creative twists on existing ideas.
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#30 TX360
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Are you kidding this gen has been fantastic guess your stuck in the past well sucks to be you.
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#31 hiphops_savior
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This generation really felt like a rehash, there are some innovative games out there (Portal, World of Goo, GTA Chinatown Wars to an extent), but mostly the big budget games are the same old only prettier.
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#32 Coolio10
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This generation is pretty dull. Too bad people are blinded by the few high-quality games. In the PS2 and N64 era we had an ocean full of average to very good games, not excellent, but good. Now we have a ocean full of crap with few excellent quality games. The excellent quality games excel in almost every category while the crap games fail in almost every category. Previous gens had games that were good at something (mostly gameplay and graphics) and bad in the others which is better than plain crap.

Hasn't anyone noticed almost all the highly-rated games were in a highly-rated series so failure was almost impossible (KZ2 is an exception).

More series have failed this gen than gotten better (Need for speed series died completely)

Might aswell have called this regen since all it did was give us lower quality ports and sequels, nothing new.

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#33 haziqonfire
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Strongly, Strongly disagree. ... Strongly.
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#34 Coolio10
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Strongly, Strongly disagree. ... Strongly.

I am guessing you like better graphics, DLC, and online, since that is all you got this gen.
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#35 SonicBalla
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Strongly, Strongly disagree. ... Strongly.Coolio10
I am guessing you like better graphics, DLC, and online, since that is all you got this gen.

What? Do You not know who Haziq is? You described a completely different person!

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#36 Floppy_Jim
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Dull? Dull??? I beg to differ, it's awesome.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Strongly, Strongly disagree. ... Strongly.Coolio10
I am guessing you like better graphics, DLC, and online, since that is all you got this gen.

Generalizations are fun! Even though Haziq is one of the best posters on here. :|

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#38 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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seriously so far so dull, except for mirror's edge and valkyria chronicles every other game i played felt like this, either good but nothing new ( mgs4, uncharted oblivion, ratchet and clank, killzone 2), overrated ( gta4, halo 3, gears of war ) obviously i'm not gonna list all the games i played

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#39 DarkGamer007
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I think we should call this the "Generation where all the fans ***** about everything" because seriously thats all I hear "Halo 3 is too similart to Halo 2, Killzone 2 r no good, Ps3 are teh sucks. Every game is a fps. Every game is casual, Wii is teh ruining gaming. RROD sucks lol. and most importantly "Its different so I insta hate it." ect. I mean really?

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#40 Ballroompirate
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If I would compare my Favs from this gen and last gen

This gen:

Street Fighter IV,Uncharted,Dead Rising,Fallout 3,The Witcher,RE5,Halo 3,Killzone 2,MGS4,Mass Effect,GTAIV,Dead Space,Bioshock,MUA,Geow,L4D,Soul Calibur IV,DMCIV,SMG,Madworld = 20 games

This gen isn't even over and its still early in 2009

Last gen:

RE4,GoW 1,GoW 2,Onimusha 1,Onimusha 2,FFXII,Shadow of the colossus,DMC1,Morrowind,Halo CE,Halo 2,RE remake,MGS3,Soul Calibur 2 =14 games

So far I guess I'm liking this gen more than last gen.

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#41 ActicEdge
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I love fresh as much as the next person but I think that its starting to come down to what is fun and what is not. At the end of the day, I play games for fun and if they can provide me with that then I can live with the lack of freshness. People whine too much, what do you honestly want? Very few games will feel revolutionary when we've essentially ventured every realm of every genre. Obviously there are still lots of innovations to be had but the fact is, the market as it is limits that in more ways then most people would think. Just enjoy your damn games and be happy, lots of people would kill to play these boring rehashes you're always complaining about.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Strongly, Strongly disagree. ... Strongly.Coolio10
I am guessing you like better graphics, DLC, and online, since that is all you got this gen.

Actually, I don't care about visuals too much -- I'm not a fan of most downloadable content, since most of it probably should have come with the game on the disc and online,

I play online, but not too much, more of a single player gamer myself. Even with those things you listed, this generation has been very, very entertaining.

I've never ever put this much money into one generation before -- I have about 30-35 games for my Wii and 360 combined and I'm looking forward to eventually getting a PS3 to complete the collection.

One thing -- if you disagree, at least put some more effort into your argument.

PS -- I feel loved guys.

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#43 Roushrsh
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There have been a few epic games this gen... Bioshock , MGS4 ...
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#44 jg4xchamp
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I'm more than satisfied with this gen, and too many of last gens games are being put on pedestals they don't belong on anymore. The only thing annoying me this gen, is the lack of innovators. The Quality is there, the "NEW" and "Fresh" isn't.
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#45 el_rika
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As far as i'm concerned, MGS4 single handedly makes this gen at least as prolific as the last, so no.

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#46 jamacian_zombie
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Learn to have fun, dammit.

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#47 tmacscores91
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Crysis Metal Gear Solid 4 Uncharted Gears Of War Bioshock god Of War III Gran Tursim Grand Theft Auto 4 its all here
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#48 navstar29
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Its sony's fault, they're First Person shooter king wannabes and their lack of rpgs, even their rpgs are more or less shooters, valkyria is a strategy rpg where you have to shoot your enemies in third person What the heck is wrong with those people, they put guns in their rpgs now? what about the magic and summons and stuff, sony and their exclusive devs make this gen DullXH-Z22V3
you clearly haven't played VC. One of the best games this gen. On topic. This gen needs more time. Dev's require more time and money to pump out games, therefore i'd have so say wait before you render this gen dull. For me its been anything but dull. Uncharted, MGS4, BioShock are all stellar games in my opinion.
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#49 Heydanbud92
Member since 2007 • 4464 Posts

totally disagree. do you own at least 2 systems? do you have a good collection of games? if not then don't make your mind up.

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#50 jasonharris48
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Outside of a handful of RPGs I've been disapointed by most the games in that genre. Maybe my expectations are to high. I still waiting for someone to top XenoGears (PSX) and PlaneScape Tormrnt (PC) when it comes to story. Heck I want Square-Enix to develop a game that tops the likes of FF: Tactics, XenoGears and Vagrant Story.