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#1 SoUtHhOlLiZ
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Glass_tesseract_animation.gif

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#3 SoUtHhOlLiZ
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think the ps3 can do that?
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#4 Kinitari
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Trying to comprehend that seriously makes my head hurt.
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#5 seldead
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I always thought that the 4th dimention was time, which is just stuff moving so yes that would be 4D and that would mean games have already reached the 4th dimention. So yeah....
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#6 Shad0ki11
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interesting gif.
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#7 Grasshopper_12
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cool. but why would I want a game like that? Boy it would be weird with everything folding into itself...
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#8 Supernova_86
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That is impressive, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Cell processor COULD do something similar to it, but I have to admit it has little to do with gaming.
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#9 danielsmith2020
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No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me.
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#10 whoisryanmack
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4D could mean lots of things. 4D ultrasounds are already widely used, and it's just 3d models that are see thru. OOOOHHH! I don't understand why any new system including Wii couldn't run that gif, so what's special about this?

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#11 SoUtHhOlLiZ
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No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. danielsmith2020

well EXCUSE me , but sony said the ps3 could achieve 4d graphics, and that is the scientific form of 4d.

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I feel like I should have smoked something first.
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#13 seldead
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No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. danielsmith2020

My year 8 science teacher lied?

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[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. seldead

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

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[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. seldead

My year 8 science teacher lied?

of course. What do you expect from the public school system? :P
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#16 seldead
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[QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. whoisryanmack

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. seldead

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

More like America was already "discovered" and Europeans slaughtered the natives and poked a flag in the ground. But close enough, a lie anyhow.

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That's a hypercube no?
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#19 seldead
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[QUOTE="seldead"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. whoisryanmack

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

More like America was already "discovered" and Europeans slaughtered the natives and poked a flag in the ground. But close enough, a lie anyhow.

It all adds up.. I should quit school now and just get learn it all from geniuses on system wars like your fine self

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#20 masterconker25
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wow. a freakin screensaver. ps3 is graphical powerhouse. :roll:
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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. seldead

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

no vikings didbut that isn't 4d. the fourth demision is time and yes we con percive things in 4d but notthing more. scientists belve that space is mad up of 10 or 11 demisions, but we can only percive 4

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[QUOTE="seldead"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. goodknight_13

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

no vikings didbut that isn't 4d. the fourth demision is time and yes we con percive things in 4d but notthing more. scientists belve that space is mad up of 10 or 11 demisions, but we can only percive 4

No it was the people who became the native americans who discovered it.
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#23 Bartz_Has_Bite
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now imagine a game like that, how trippy would that be?

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[QUOTE="seldead"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. whoisryanmack

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

More like America was already "discovered" and Europeans slaughtered the natives and poked a flag in the ground. But close enough, a lie anyhow.

that made me laugh. Very true, funny how history is shaped by current events. America? Always good right? Then explain Iraq.

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#25 Silvereign
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That is impressive, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Cell processor COULD do something similar to it, but I have to admit it has little to do with gaming.Supernova_86

It has everything to do with Gamming can someone post that vidoe of hwo 4d graphics would be implemented into vidoegames?

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I see some of you aren´t too bright, it basically means a game will age, and change with time, not just the main character, but the world, fauna and flora, ppl will age, buildings will decay...
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#27 whoisryanmack
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I see some of you aren´t too bright, it basically means a game will age, and change with time, not just the main character, but the world, fauna and flora, ppl will age, buildings will decay...Eddie-Vedder

Always a good way to enter a discussion and make your point heard. How exactly would not knowing this obscure fact about Sony's promises makes anyone "not too bright" again?

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[QUOTE="seldead"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="seldead"]

[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. goodknight_13

My year 8 science teacher lied?

Most of your teachers up to that point (especially history) have been lying to you.

Uhhh... so it was aliens who discovered America.

no vikings didbut that isn't 4d.

Well, actually - although the Vikings were the first Europeans to have discovered America, (and to have set up a small colony if memory serves me correctly?) apparently the Native Americans were already present when the Vikings discovered America.

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Oh god... looking at that makes me sick to my stomach... idk why...
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#31 daqua_99
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4D is time ... I don't think that the PS3 can control time ...
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#32 speedyg725
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Yeap, we can'tsee the fourth dimension (according to current physics theories that derive from string theory) If you were able to see the fourth dimension you would see for any object it's current state and it's past and futures states all at once. Basically a lifelike timeline of that object. yOu really can't comprehend how that would look, since we can't see it. If someone wants to know the other dimensions, just pm me lol, it's gets even crazier.

And did someone say that sony said they could use the fourth dimension in gaming. I would really like to know how they plan to do that.

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#33 DrinkDuff
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I always thought that the 4th dimention was time, which is just stuff moving so yes that would be 4D and that would mean games have already reached the 4th dimention. So yeah....seldead
well I think this is refering to the fourth spatial dimension, which is probably beyond human visualization and perception, considering the fact that we can only exist in three dimensions at one given moment in time.
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#34 whoisryanmack
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Maybe we are seeing a 4th dimension but we don't recognize its existance?/twilight zone theme.

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#35 BumFluff122
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The Fourth Dimension is Time. Anything rendered in real time would then be considered 4D.

This is a Tesseract which is the forth dimension of a 3D cube.This is where motion along the fourth dimension is often a representation for bounded transformations of the cube through time. Any questions that aren't stupid?

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Here let me help you with the references for that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract
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#36 DrinkDuff
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The Fourth Dimension is Time. Anything rendered in real time would then be considered 4D.

This is a Tesseract which is the forth dimension of a 3D cube.This is where motion along the fourth dimension is often a representation for bounded transformations of the cube through time. Any questions that aren't stupid?

chaosX303
and technically this is a two dimensional object representing three dimensions representing four dimensions, so its not even close to being accurate.
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Yeap, we can'tsee the fourth dimension (according to current physics theories that derive from string theory) If you were able to see the fourth dimension you would see for any object it's current state and it's past and futures states all at once. Basically a lifelike timeline of that object. yOu really can't comprehend how that would look, since we can't see it. If someone wants to know the other dimensions, just pm me lol, it's gets even crazier.

And did someone say that sony said they could use the fourth dimension in gaming. I would really like to know how they plan to do that.

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Even if it could control the fourth demension, no one would know of it as humans can comprehend only up to 3 dimensions .... it's like having a graphics card for your PC able to push out 120 fps if the human eye can only notice 90 changes a second ...
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[QUOTE="speedyg725"]

Yeap, we can'tsee the fourth dimension (according to current physics theories that derive from string theory) If you were able to see the fourth dimension you would see for any object it's current state and it's past and futures states all at once. Basically a lifelike timeline of that object. yOu really can't comprehend how that would look, since we can't see it. If someone wants to know the other dimensions, just pm me lol, it's gets even crazier.

And did someone say that sony said they could use the fourth dimension in gaming. I would really like to know how they plan to do that.

daqua_99

Even if it could control the fourth demension, no one would know of it as humans can comprehend only up to 3 dimensions .... it's like having a graphics card for your PC able to push out 120 fps if the human eye can only notice 90 changes a second ...

Correction, we are only concious of 3 dimensions.

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Yeap, we can'tsee the fourth dimension (according to current physics theories that derive from string theory) If you were able to see the fourth dimension you would see for any object it's current state and it's past and futures states all at once. Basically a lifelike timeline of that object. yOu really can't comprehend how that would look, since we can't see it. If someone wants to know the other dimensions, just pm me lol, it's gets even crazier.

And did someone say that sony said they could use the fourth dimension in gaming. I would really like to know how they plan to do that.

speedyg725

good job, you watched the video on finding the 10th dimension.

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#40 BackFlip101
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heres another one

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#41 daqua_99
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[QUOTE="daqua_99"][QUOTE="speedyg725"]

Yeap, we can'tsee the fourth dimension (according to current physics theories that derive from string theory) If you were able to see the fourth dimension you would see for any object it's current state and it's past and futures states all at once. Basically a lifelike timeline of that object. yOu really can't comprehend how that would look, since we can't see it. If someone wants to know the other dimensions, just pm me lol, it's gets even crazier.

And did someone say that sony said they could use the fourth dimension in gaming. I would really like to know how they plan to do that.

whoisryanmack

Even if it could control the fourth demension, no one would know of it as humans can comprehend only up to 3 dimensions .... it's like having a graphics card for your PC able to push out 120 fps if the human eye can only notice 90 changes a second ...

Correction, we are only concious of 3 dimensions.

Quite correct ... you try and define time and tell someone what it is ... it is nigh impossible ....
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For those of you who don't know the fourth dimension is time so nothing can be is 4D. (that is what i heard) The closest thing to 4d game we have is Prince of Persia: Sands of time trilogy, one of my all time favourite game. It is 4d since you can control time in it.
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pretty cool
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#45 HoldThePhone
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[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]No it isn't. The human mind is incable of viewing anything in 4D nor can we perceive anything in 4 dimensions. That animation is still a 3 dimensional shape. What the hell this has to do with system wars is beyond me. SoUtHhOlLiZ

well EXCUSE me , but sony said the ps3 could achieve 4d graphics, and that is the scientific form of 4d.

you took a clever little advertising motto for truth? gg

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#46 Goldensun48
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heres another one

BackFlip101

the cube object was easy to understand, this one is pretty complicated:?

btw that kinda looks like the triforce sometimes lol

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#47 BumFluff122
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I've just done some reading on the many dimensions of the universe. Time is not a spatial dimension. The image posted on this topic represent the fourth spatial dimension as mentioned before by oen of the posters. He also said their are theories of ten or eleven dimensions which theorists believe some of which compacted while the dimensions we are aware of exploded to form the universe as we know it. The big bang theory. What the PS3 '4th dimension' refers to if i remeber correctly is grapics through time. There are basically two meanings when refering to the fourth dimenion, time and the fourth spatial dimensiin. Now there is a third when refering to computers.

That is how I understand it anyways. If I'm wrong please elaborate.

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#48 MasterKevosavi
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*looks at own sig*

:lol:, I've seriously had a good laugh reading this thread. I can't believe people are still all over the PS3 4D thing, and trying to explain it!

If I hadn't already done it enough times I would enlighten you all on this subject matter, but I did it enough times when Sony first mentioned their 4D powers :lol:.

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#49 michael098
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Glass_tesseract_animation.gif

SoUtHhOlLiZ

That clearly only has 3 dimensions, were did all this 4d **** come from? do cows not understand that its impossible to have a 4th dimension? there is width, hight and depth......whats the 4th?

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#50 michael098
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[QUOTE="SoUtHhOlLiZ"]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Glass_tesseract_animation.gif

michael098

That clearly only has 3 dimensions, were did all this 4d **** come from? do cows not understand that its impossible to have a 4th dimension? there is width, hight and depth......whats the 4th?

and when i say its impossible to have a 4th dimension i mean in video games. and im talking about the graphics......if time is really the 4th dimension then whats the big deal? games have had day/night cycles for a long time.