This is a terrible gen for JRPGs -- when will we see AAA?

It's been pretty pathetic so far. No I'm not some jerk who just goes by scores -- JRPGs are seriously lacking this gen IMO. The best we got so far was Eternal Sonata which came out some time ago. Sure you could argue that you really enjoyed LO, but it's really a game that belonged in last gen if you ask me (or even earlier).

On most websites (including gamespot), there is yet to be a AAA JRPG on a console this generation. Even AA scores extremely rare.

What will be the first redefining AAA JRPG of this generation?

I would vote FFXIII from looking at the track record of main installments for the FF franchise -- but that won't be out for a while, which makes this gen all the more sad.

Perhaps we'll be suprised?

RAWWRRRR I FORGOT WHITE KNIGHT CHRONICLES ON THE POLL!!! NOOOOOO

Wtf is white knight chronicles on that list... you put last remnant there instead of WKC? Dude fix ur poll and than Ill give my opinion but you probably know who I am voting for alreadyfistoflight

i know i know, but it's too late =/

Most good jrpgs seem to be heading to the handhelds.  In the past few years the ds, and to a lesser extent the psp, have recieved quite a few awesome jrpgs.. including the amazing and unique "the world ends with you".

as far as console jrpgs, tales of vesperia and symphonia 2 just came out. i'm not sure about symphonia 2, but vesperia is quite good.. unless i'm mistaken, valkyrie chronicles is also a jrpg.  The wii is also getting a handful of promising looking jrpgs including the next main Tales game, Fragile, and a few others. 
This gen consoles certainly aren't getting loads of jrpgs, perhaps the high development costs have a part in that, among other things.

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Blue-Sky

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Blue-Sky

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Couth_

Fact is, WRPG's have progressed more than JRPG's, and now Japanese devs are playing catchup and trying harder to "westernize" their games.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Couth_

Oblivion doesn't, but Fallout 3 was great, IMO of course.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Couth_

it's also not fair to suggest that jrpgs don't have alot of depth in comparison.  They may not have alot of customisability in terms of your characters appearance, or clas. but there is often a slew of abilities or characters in a complex story on top of a rather difficult game.. games like etrian odyssey are brutal, while FF4 will have you on your toes through even the most basic of battles.

Then there are some totally out there jrpgs like TWEWY which has tons of depth in its pin system, clothing/apparel stle system, and use of both screens/characters.  IT really is a totally different kind of game and deserves more recognition.

The problem is that alot of WRPGs are using high production values and streamlining themselves very well so to appeal to a wider audience.. while alot of the console jrpgs so far are just more of the same.

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

BioShockOwnz

Fact is, WRPG's have progressed more than JRPG's, and now Japanese devs are playing catchup and trying harder to "westernize" their games.

Fact is, WRPG's have progressed more than JRPG's

BioShockOwnz

I wouldn't call that a fact. JRPGs at the very least have stayed the same, wRPGs on the other hand have regressed backwardsAdrianWerner

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Blue-Sky

So how'd you work that one out. With Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind being vastly better than Oblivion and Fallout 3 and having infinitey times more depth in them than both games.

As far as JRPGs go they have indeed gotten worse than there last gen counterparts. All the next gen JRPGs suck compared to the old ones. It's nothing to do with them ageing, they've just lost teh quality.

Both JRPG and WRPG have gotten worse infact. KOTOR was a million times better than Mass Effect, Fallout1&2 totally rip F3 to shreds, Oblivion a more dumbed down version of morrowind. Infact I don't think anyone on this entire forum can name a current gen RPG that has succeeded a last gen one.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Couth_

 Even if their PC predecessors are more acclaimed. The difference is, these WRPGs are now more present on consoles.

IMO Lost Odyssey and Inifinite Undiscovery are much better than the JRPGs released within PS2's first year. (except FFX)

I think FFXIII will be the first.  I'm really looking forward to this title. 

That is followed closely by Final Fantasy Versus XIII.  

But, like others have said AAA and AA or whatever mean nothing to me.  Lost Odyssey is an amazing game, Rogue Galaxy and Odin Sphere are great and I would really like to start Persona 3.  

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Dahaka-UK

So how'd you work that one out. With Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind being vastly better than Oblivion and Fallout 3 and having infinitey times more depth in them than both games.

As far as JRPGs go they have indeed gotten worse than there last gen counterparts. All the next gen JRPGs suck compared to the old ones. It's nothing to do with them ageing, they've just lost teh quality.

Both JRPG and WRPG have gotten worse infact. KOTOR was a million times better than Mass Effect, Fallout1&2 totally rip F3 to shreds, Oblivion a more dumbed down version of morrowind. Infact I don't think anyone on this entire forum can name a current gen RPG that has succeeded a last gen one.

The Witcher was darn good

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Blue-Sky

 Even if their PC predecessors are more acclaimed. The difference is, these WRPGs are now more present on consoles.

IMO Lost Odyssey and Inifinite Undiscovery are much better than the JRPGs released within PS2's first year. (except FFX)

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

Dahaka-UK

So how'd you work that one out. With Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind being vastly better than Oblivion and Fallout 3 and having infinitey times more depth in them than both games.

As far as JRPGs go they have indeed gotten worse than there last gen counterparts. All the next gen JRPGs suck compared to the old ones. It's nothing to do with them ageing, they've just lost teh quality.

Both JRPG and WRPG have gotten worse infact. KOTOR was a million times better than Mass Effect, Fallout1&2 totally rip F3 to shreds, Oblivion a more dumbed down version of morrowind. Infact I don't think anyone on this entire forum can name a current gen RPG that has succeeded a last gen one.

I meant to put "J"RPGs in the line. :oops:

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

What people here dont realize is how high standards have risen for RPGs in general. When you have games like Fallout3 and Oblivion with so much depth, the traditional RPG just doesn't cut it anymore.

Believe or not, but this gens RPGs are better than last gen. Just not as overrated.

HoldThePhone

So how'd you work that one out. With Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind being vastly better than Oblivion and Fallout 3 and having infinitey times more depth in them than both games.

As far as JRPGs go they have indeed gotten worse than there last gen counterparts. All the next gen JRPGs suck compared to the old ones. It's nothing to do with them ageing, they've just lost teh quality.

Both JRPG and WRPG have gotten worse infact. KOTOR was a million times better than Mass Effect, Fallout1&2 totally rip F3 to shreds, Oblivion a more dumbed down version of morrowind. Infact I don't think anyone on this entire forum can name a current gen RPG that has succeeded a last gen one.

The Witcher was darn good

That game is indeed special. To be honest I totally forgot about. But lets be honest. Thats the ONLY good WRPG out this generation.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]According to most hermits Fallout3 and Oblivion don't hold a candle to their predessosors, so how can that be? IMO WRPG trade a strong main quest accompanied buy robust sidequests for "freedom"(which is limited any way you slice it) and almost nothing but sidequests, which is lame IMOBlue-Sky

 Even if their PC predecessors are more acclaimed. The difference is, these WRPGs are now more present on consoles.

IMO Lost Odyssey and Inifinite Undiscovery are much better than the JRPGs released within PS2's first year. (except FFX)

This goes back to my originial statement. Where WRPGs on consoles, which have relatively more depth than the average JRPG have risen standards for reviews this gen. 

Games like Dark cloud and Okage during PS2's early years wouldn't of gotten the scores they had. Quite frankly, a lot of PS2 games were overrated, and I think its unfair to compare gen to gen review scores without considering the difference in standards 

That game is indeed special. To be honest I totally forgot about. But lets be honest. Thats the ONLY good WRPG out this generation.

Dahaka-UK

This goes back to my originial statement. Where WRPGs on consoles, which have relatively more depth than the average JRPG have risen standards for reviews this gen. 

Games like Dark cloud and Okage during PS2's early years wouldn't of gotten the scores they had. Quite frankly, a lot of PS2 games were overrated, and I think its unfair to compare gen to gen review scores without considering the difference in standards 

Blue-Sky

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

 

So how'd you work that one out. With Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind being vastly better than Oblivion and Fallout 3 and having infinitey times more depth in them than both games.

As far as JRPGs go they have indeed gotten worse than there last gen counterparts. All the next gen JRPGs suck compared to the old ones. It's nothing to do with them ageing, they've just lost teh quality.

Both JRPG and WRPG have gotten worse infact. KOTOR was a million times better than Mass Effect, Fallout1&2 totally rip F3 to shreds, Oblivion a more dumbed down version of morrowind. Infact I don't think anyone on this entire forum can name a current gen RPG that has succeeded a last gen one.

Dahaka-UK

The Witcher was darn good

That game is indeed special. To be honest I totally forgot about. But lets be honest. Thats the ONLY good WRPG out this generation.

The Witcher was quite awesome. Just wait until Dragon Age though. That'll be one WRPG we could all sink our teeth into I think.

Dude what are you talking about, we've had some good titles this gen. Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia, Valkyria are all quality titles. They werent AAA but its not to say that this gen was terrible.

Upcoming titles like Star OCean 4 and FFXIII? JRPG lovers should be jaw dropping right now. 

Chrono Trigger is still the best JRPG ever made. Yes ever made. It's that good. It is still better than the vast majority of games coming out today.

Sir Froggy FTW!

Chrono Trigger is still the best JRPG ever made. Yes ever made. It's that good. It is still better than the vast majority of games coming out today.

Sir Froggy FTW!

Hoobinator

Chrono trigger is by far, the most overrated RPG on the planet. yes more so than FFVII. I mean seriously I just don't get some people when it comes to CT. was their first JRPG? IDk...

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Chrono Trigger is still the best JRPG ever made. Yes ever made. It's that good. It is still better than the vast majority of games coming out today.

Sir Froggy FTW!

Blue-Sky

Chrono trigger is by far, the most overrated RPG on the planet. yes more so than FFVII. I mean seriously I just don't get some people when it comes to CT. was their first JRPG? IDk...

LIES LIES LIES!

I only recently played Chrono Trigger and it is unbelievably exceptional. Get past the graphics and you'll see exactly how to expertly pace a game, craft characters with some depth and persona, create a game world that spans time, see your actions affect the game world and the music is possibly Uematsu's raison d'etre. There is more charm and personality in one theme tune of Chrono Trigger than most games possess in whole. 

And it has Sir Glenn Frog, master of the Masamune, avenger of Sir Cyrus, feal to the Kingdom of Guardia and the heirs of the crown. Glenn FTW!.

Final fantasy XIII will probably get AAA and Final fantasy XIII versus willl probably get AAA tokyacat

hmm i dunno about that one. nomura didn't do all that great a job with KH 2. though i still loved it. and im deffinatly infinatly more hyped for vs 13 then 13. but we'll see i guess

What is peoples obession with AAA games. It seems that they are the only games that matter.

There are great JRPGs this generation, such as Tales of Vesperia, Disgaea 3, and Lost Odyssey. JRPGS don't really get 9 or above. If you only play AAA games JRPGs aren't the best type of game to play.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41553.html

Fragile 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42008.html

Arc Rise Fantasia

and a lot of great RPGs on this gens king

the DS 

How many AAA JPRGs were there last year?

1. Final Fantasy X
2. Final Fantasy XII
3. Dragon Quest VIII
4. Dark Cloud 2

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