This is ridiculous, Banjo 3 has no fan service whatsoever.

joke topic? the game has the best visuals ive seen with the art direction. and it is still platforming, but with vehicles. If you jump from platform to platform, you are platforming. if you jump from platform to platform in a vehicle with springs, guess what? you are still platforming.mtradr43

Is that a joke post? So you would like to jump from platform to platform using springs?

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]joke topic? the game has the best visuals ive seen with the art direction. and it is still platforming, but with vehicles. If you jump from platform to platform, you are platforming. if you jump from platform to platform in a vehicle with springs, guess what? you are still platforming.Blazerdt47

Is that a joke post? So you would like to jump from platform to platform using springs?

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]joke topic? the game has the best visuals ive seen with the art direction. and it is still platforming, but with vehicles. If you jump from platform to platform, you are platforming. if you jump from platform to platform in a vehicle with springs, guess what? you are still platforming.mtradr43

Is that a joke post? So you would like to jump from platform to platform using springs?

You seriously like the new direction they are taking? Do you want Banjo to become a Need for Speed one day? RARE hates you, they only care about what they want to do, not what we want (I'm talking about the new RARE).

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]joke topic? the game has the best visuals ive seen with the art direction. and it is still platforming, but with vehicles. If you jump from platform to platform, you are platforming. if you jump from platform to platform in a vehicle with springs, guess what? you are still platforming.Blazerdt47

Is that a joke post? So you would like to jump from platform to platform using springs?

You seriously like the new direction they are taking? Do you want Banjo to become a Need for Speed one day? RARE hates you, they only care about what they want to do, not what we want (I'm talking about the new RARE).

As a fan of the franchise, there definitely is fan service.

Also, the graphics are spectacular.

What are you talking about? :|

As a fan of the franchise, there definitely is fan service.

Also, the graphics are spectacular.

What are you talking about? :|

BioShockOwnz

Like I said the graphics are great but they could have been so much better like, where's they unique environments we've come to love? All I see now are gears in every level I see. And the graphics are definitely not on par to Ratchet and LBP.

I laugh at gamers who say, "OMG vehicles! teh sux!!1! This isn't the game I remember! blasphemy!"

The sad thing is these people don't realize the vehicle is just an extension of the characters Banjo & Kazooie, only now you can do a lot more with them by actually building your own "moves". People who get hung up on superficial stuff like this are usually the same people who live in the past and always believe the grass is greener somewhere else.

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

locopatho

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

locopatho

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

blazinpuertoroc

Lol yes they are. The originals are some of my favourite games. Changing from bear to vehicle, to me, is the same as changing Tommy Vercetti's pants in Vice City. Exact same gameplay, different look. Only with tons of customisation added.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

As a fan of the franchise, there definitely is fan service.

Also, the graphics are spectacular.

What are you talking about? :|

Blazerdt47

Like I said the graphics are great but they could have been so much better like, where's they unique environments we've come to love? All I see now are gears in every level I see. And the graphics are definitely not on par to Ratchet and LBP.

What? I disagree on both accounts.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

spike6566

Well ye can have fun complaining, I'll be playing :D

And show me where they say it's dumb....

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

As a fan of the franchise, there definitely is fan service.

Also, the graphics are spectacular.

What are you talking about? :|

BioShockOwnz

Like I said the graphics are great but they could have been so much better like, where's they unique environments we've come to love? All I see now are gears in every level I see. And the graphics are definitely not on par to Ratchet and LBP.

What? I disagree on both accounts.

What? you think it looks better than Ratchet and LBP graphics wise?

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

locopatho

Well ye can have fun complaining, I'll be playing :D

And show me where they say it's dumb....

From recent evidence though -- and assuming Rare isn't hiding anything significant from journos at this late stage -- Nuts & Bolts feels like two promising concepts shoe-horned awkwardly into a single, unsatisfying whole. Yes, we're glad that Banjo and the bird are back -- we're just not convinced if this is quite the right, er, vehicle for their return

[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

locopatho

Lol yes they are. The originals are some of my favourite games. Changing from bear to vehicle, to me, is the same as changing Tommy Vercetti's pants in Vice City. Exact same gameplay, different look. Only with tons of customisation added.

What? you think it looks better than Ratchet and LBP graphics wise? Blazerdt47

Much better than Ratchet. LBP and Banjo are very similar texture wise.

From recent evidence though -- and assuming Rare isn't hiding anything significant from journos at this late stage -- Nuts & Bolts feels like two promising concepts shoe-horned awkwardly into a single, unsatisfying whole. Yes, we're glad that Banjo and the bird are back -- we're just not convinced if this is quite the right, er, vehicle for their return

spike6566

Interesting... Very interesting. I think I'll still prefer this to a straight sequel though.

WTF?!? so your telling me racing against grunty for as a boss battle is like the old games now?? Massive empty worlds are like the older games too?? Its like GTA: Build your own vehicles BEAR STYLE! Its nothing like the older ones at all! The only thing im impressed with is the graphics and music thats all.blazinpuertoroc

Um... yeah? The old games were about exploration, making bigger worlds helps this :D

It's like Halo turned rpg. Blazerdt47

How is it anything even remotely like halo?

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]What? you think it looks better than Ratchet and LBP graphics wise? BioShockOwnz

Much better than Ratchet. LBP and Banjo are very similar texture wise.

LOL at you. Epic Fail. The post above yours seems to agree with me, but you sir fail.

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

locopatho

Lets see how racing heavy this game is. I am not saying the game will or will not be true to Banjo but with vehicles being the main source of transportation, racing missions are just to tempting for devs to avoid. Lets also see how good the handling mechanics are as well.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]What? you think it looks better than Ratchet and LBP graphics wise? Blazerdt47

Much better than Ratchet. LBP and Banjo are very similar texture wise.

LOL at you. Epic Fail. The post above yours seems to agree with me, but you sir fail.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]What? you think it looks better than Ratchet and LBP graphics wise? spike6566

Much better than Ratchet. LBP and Banjo are very similar texture wise.

LOL at you. Epic Fail. The post above yours seems to agree with me, but you sir fail.

Probably some grape soda.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

In Banjo 1 and 2 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

In Banjo 3 you explore, fly, swim, jump, collect, solve puzzles, fight bosses, etc.

The ONLY difference to gameplay is instead of your avatar being a bear, it's a vehicle.

Who bloody cares?

Javy03

Lets see how racing heavy this game is. I am not saying the game will or will not be true to Banjo but with vehicles being the main source of transportation, racing missions are just to tempting for devs to avoid. Lets also see how good the handling mechanics are as well.

True, I'm assuming Rare knows what they're doing cos of Diddy Kong Racing being so awesome in all vehicles :)

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]What? you think it looks better than Ratchet and LBP graphics wise? Blazerdt47

Much better than Ratchet. LBP and Banjo are very similar texture wise.

LOL at you. Epic Fail. The post above yours seems to agree with me, but you sir fail.

Probably some grape soda.

Looks good!

Looks better!

True, I'm assuming Rare knows what they're doing cos of Diddy Kong Racing being so awesome in all vehicles :)

locopatho

Wasnt Diddy Kong Racing built very similiarly to Mario Kart? I could be wrong but if thats true that doest really help Banjo.

I think we can see, wtf is wrong with the water in banjo, it has the same pattern throughout.Blazerdt47

Let it go man, I also agree that Ratchet looks way better then Banjo but in the end it is very subjective and with art differences you just can't win this kind of arguement showing pics. You will always have someone else claiming your pick choices are biased and even if the pic choices were fair it all comes down to just preference.

Looks good!

Looks better!

I think we can see, wtf is wrong with the water in banjo, it has the same pattern throughout.Blazerdt47

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Looks good!

Looks better!

I think we can see, wtf is wrong with the water in banjo, it has the same pattern throughout.Vaasman

WTF are you talking about?! I have the game and it looks identical, and Banjo does not look better. You are in DENIAL.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]You used a bullshot of ratchet with AA thrown in vs an in game screen of Banjo, and Banjo (imo) still looks better.Blazerdt47

WTF are you talking about?! I have the game and it looks identical, and Banjo does not look better. You are in DENIAL.

Seriously though I'm done. If your going to react this way to an opinion opposite of your own, it isn't worth discussing anything with you.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]You used a bullshot of ratchet with AA thrown in vs an in game screen of Banjo, and Banjo (imo) still looks better.Vaasman

WTF are you talking about?! I have the game and it looks identical, and Banjo does not look better. You are in DENIAL.

Seriously though I'm done. If your going to react this way to an opinion opposite of your own, it isn't worth discussing anything with you.

Wait why did you say Banjo looks better than? Uhuh.

Banjo looks beautiful from what ive seen, better than LBP IMO, Lbp doesnt have full scale maps like banjo, so it makes since it wouldnt look better.

ratchet is a better example, but i still prefer Banjo to it.

i feel sorry for the lost souls who think Banjo looks better then R&C and LBP. poor souls, btw any one up for some GRAPE DRINK?spike6566

dude your a joke, LBP is good looking, But nothing crazy, I love the new Banjo look, if you honestly think they arent even comparable, you must be blinded by fan-boyism.

I laugh at gamers who say, "OMG vehicles! teh sux!!1! This isn't the game I remember! blasphemy!"

The sad thing is these people don't realize the vehicle is just an extension of the characters Banjo & Kazooie, only now you can do a lot more with them by actually building your own "moves". People who get hung up on superficial stuff like this are usually the same people who live in the past and always believe the grass is greener somewhere else.

WillieBeamish

No, I don't see it that way at all. When the vehicles are the main focus of the gameplay, then it is a vehicular platformer with the name "Banjo" slapped in the title. It has been stated by IGN that the ONLY traditional platforming in the entire game is in the hub world. In every level, you have to use vehicle(s). That would be fine if it also employed elements of the previous Banjo titles. The problem is that the vehicles are the main character now. You can say the vehicles are just an extention of Banjo and Kazooie...but you know what? The waterpack on Super Mario Sunshine is just an extension of Mario. And we all know that everyone loved Super Mario Sunshine...:|

The point is that the vehicles are not an extension of the main characters...they are the main characters now, and that is what is making longtime fans of Banjo 1 and 2 mad. Just as the waterpack on SMS made sheep mad, I can easily see the vehicle aspect of Nuts and Bolts making Banjo fans mad. The waterpack in SMS was a gimmick that failed. The vehicles in Nuts and Bolts are a gimmick that could easily fail.

I dont think the OP knows what the word fanservice means.. at all.diped

Then I guess I don't know what "fan service" means also. I'm having a hard time finding much in Nuts and Bolts that would satisfy fans of Banjo 1 and 2. I really liked Banjo 1 and 2, but Nuts and Bolts seems to be taking a completely different direction. People have said that it is just a unique type of platformer that uses vehicles, but the problem is that the vehicles are the main aspect. When you can tweak your vehicle, add parts, do whatever it takes to reach a certain area in a level that was inaccessable...then that means that everything you are doing to get to that section is revolved around your vehicle and NOT Banjo. Like I said...it is a vehicular platformer with the name "Banjo" slapped in the title.

Look at it this way...do you think sheep would be happy if Super Mario Galaxy 2 was announced and it had Mario piloting a spaceship while using gravity to access different areas of a level by tweaking your spaceship and adding the necessary parts? Heck no. Sheep would want Mario to be the main character...not a spaceship. So, why is Nuts and Bolts a "fan service" to people who liked Banjo 1 and 2?

Lol yes they are. The originals are some of my favourite games. Changing from bear to vehicle, to me, is the same as changing Tommy Vercetti's pants in Vice City. Exact same gameplay, different look. Only with tons of customisation added. locopatho

the ign preview hands on said they were dissapointed that so much attention has gone into vehicles rather than actual platforming.

that sounds bad