This is the real problem this generation.

Planned DLC doesn't exactly mean the DLC is ready. They may have plans to start on the DLC once the game ships, or may have started when the game went gold (assuming it has).

I don't get why consumers are letting developers and publishers milk them like this. It's pretty sad.

Are you going to complain when they anounce DLC for Uncharted 3? There is most likely going to be lots if the game is succesful.

It completely depends on the DLC. If it's nothing but map packs, I have no interest.

If they're additions made to the game due to fan reaction, I'd be ok with it.

If it bothers you then buy the "goty" edition that comes with all the dlc a year from now for 30$.

Are you going to complain when they anounce DLC for Uncharted 3? There is most likely going to be lots if the game is succesful.

FoolwithaLancer

Planned DLC doesn't exactly mean the DLC is ready. They may have plans to start on the DLC once the game ships, or may have started when the game went gold (assuming it has).

lundy86_4

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Are you going to complain when they anounce DLC for Uncharted 3? There is most likely going to be lots if the game is succesful.

tormentos

Why does it matter? Gears DLC is ussually just a bunch of maps, don't like DLC don't buy it, simple as that.

Oh i am sure they strip it from the game. This is Epic we are talking here,this people never come months in advance saying how many DLC they will sell you,in fact Epic love giving free stuff away for its games,i know i have been a UT owners for years.tormentos

Uhhhhh, there is absolutely no indication that it was stripped from the game.

If a company can get away with charging for P2P online play it sends a message that you can pretty much get away with anything so expect more and more of this kind of stuff by everyone.kuraimen

Like how Sony can get away with making you pay to get better deals?

The way I see it is that the consumer just needs to be smart about what they choose to consume... Take LA Noire for example. To me that game was adaquate... not great just good and when the DLC pass came out I kinda weighed the choice, "do I need more of this game or....?" So Instead of spending the money on DLC I bought Bioshock 2 for 15 bucks new and got a whole new experience as opposed to extending the experience I already had. I dont mind devs providing DLC and extending the life of a game, but a smart gamer knows when to cut ties with a game and move on... be that.

I don't get why consumers are letting developers and publishers milk them like this. It's pretty sad.

Demonjoe93

It's $30 after a discount? That is ridiculous.

Slashkice

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Oh i am sure they strip it from the game. This is Epic we are talking here,this people never come months in advance saying how many DLC they will sell you,in fact Epic love giving free stuff away for its games,i know i have been a UT owners for years.lundy86_4

Uhhhhh, there is absolutely no indication that it was stripped from the game.

There just planning it (probably).

But yeah DLC is the worst thing this generation to me.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Are you going to complain when they anounce DLC for Uncharted 3? There is most likely going to be lots if the game is succesful.

FoolwithaLancer

Why does it matter? Gears DLC is ussually just a bunch of maps, don't like DLC don't buy it, simple as that.

Never bought DLC, only GOTY versions of games.

It is indeed atrocious.

There is also no indication that it wasn't strip from the game,all i know is there are 4 DLC already priced on a pack that will release for a game which hasn't even come out.tormentos

Exactly, so why complain about it? I simply indicated that there was no guarantee it was stripped. It's possible it was worked on after the game was finished.

For all we know, the DLC could be great. It seems you are pre-emptively complaining about something which could very well be awesome.

Seems to me that announced dlc does not equal cut dlc, but your very weakly covering up Microsoft and Epic bashing by saying oh other companies yet you only mentioned one other game that did it.

epic has atleast 4 dlc planned not including weapon skins and such, so they announced a season pass that will get you the first 4 dlc packs and an exclusive weapons kit for 33% less then if you purchased them all individually and that wouldn't include the exclusive weapons pack either.
As I said Planning dlc does not mean cutting dlc.

I agree, i have yet to buy a DLC this gen.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]If a company can get away with charging for P2P online play it sends a message that you can pretty much get away with anything so expect more and more of this kind of stuff by everyone.FoolwithaLancer

Like how Sony can get away with making you pay to get better deals?

[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]If a company can get away with charging for P2P online play it sends a message that you can pretty much get away with anything so expect more and more of this kind of stuff by everyone.tormentos

Like how Sony can get away with making you pay to get better deals?

So paying for deals (Lol) is OK, But playing for Online and a few neat features is stupid?

K, Seems legit.....

Seems to me that announced dlc does not equal cut dlc, but your very weakly covering up Microsoft and Epic bashing by saying oh other companies yet you only mentioned one other game that did it.

epic has atleast 4 dlc planned not including weapon skins and such, so they announced a season pass that will get you the first 4 dlc packs and an exclusive weapons kit for 33% less then if you purchased them all individually and that wouldn't include the exclusive weapons pack either.
As I said Planning dlc does not mean cutting dlc.

WilliamRLBaker

I very rarely purchase DLC. It is hardly ever worth the cash. The only DLC I don't regret getting is the GTAIV DLC.

4 dlc packs 1 exclusive weapon set. This comes out to 6 dollars a pack. Season pass is 2400 mspoints saving you 33% off buying each dlc seperately and would end up not including the weapon set.

There is nothing shown that say content was cut considering the fact I dont believe there has been any proof that content was cut for dlc purposes on gears 1 and gears 2 either.
Planned dlc does not mean cut content, It juts means planned dlc.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/29/gears-of-war-3-gets-30-season-pass-first-dlc-in-november/ The game isn't out and already 4 DLC are on the way,is impossible that this content wasn't strip from the disc,the same was done with LA Noire as well,is ok to talk about DLC when your game has 7 or 8 months,but months before release.? In my opinion things will get even better,as there would be tons of people who will bite for this,the more people support this crap the more common will get,there will be a point where half a game will release for $60 or $70 and the other half for the same amount.tormentos

Don't like it? then dont buy it. Its simple really. If its "waaaa coming out toooo sooon" then wait 7-8 months and then buy the **** People will jsut rage about everything. A season pass comes out that saves you money and people rage jeez.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Like how Sony can get away with making you pay to get better deals?

FoolwithaLancer

So paying for deals (Lol) is OK, But playing for Online and a few neat features is stupid?

K, Seems legit.....

I'm not defending PS+ but your argument doesn't make any sense. If all you want to do is play PS3 games online, you don't need PS+ to do so. If you want to play online on the 360, you need a Gold membership. That's the difference. Also, you do get bonus features on PS+ now, like cloud saving, which is actually tempting me now.

There just planning it (probably).

But yeah DLC is the worst thing this generation to me.

speedfog

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[QUOTE="tormentos"] Sams and Cotsco do this is an accepted policy,since the products they sold most of the time are way more expensive in other stores. For example the DS3 controller for the PS3 is $42 dollars in the Sams i go to,go to gamestop and see how much it cost.! $54.99 we are talking about a saving of $13 dollars in just 1 controller,my membership was $40,so in 1 item alone i already got back more than 1 quart of my investment.IndianaPwns39

So paying for deals (Lol) is OK, But playing for Online and a few neat features is stupid?

K, Seems legit.....

I'm not defending PS+ but your argument doesn't make any sense. If all you want to do is play PS3 games online, you don't need PS+ to do so. If you want to play online on the 360, you need a Gold membership. That's the difference. Also, you do get bonus features on PS+ now, like cloud saving, which is actually tempting me now.

My original argument was to a guy who said Live is a ripoff because you pay for Multiplayer, so I was questioning him as to wether he believes it's a ripoff that you have to pay for deals, I know you get a lot of extra features with PSN+, But you get a lot of extra features with Live as well.

[QUOTE="speedfog"]

There just planning it (probably).

But yeah DLC is the worst thing this generation to me.

tormentos

To be fair, we don't know what the Gears 3 DLC will be... what if it's really good and expands the game in a better way? Planned DLC isn't an issue. Isn't it better, in a way? Instead of DLC being a cheap after thought, isn't it better that the development team is planning something that they can't fit into the initial release? The game releases soon, maybe they have more ideas. While they develop that, maybe they'll listen to fan reaction and deliver what they want.

If it does turn out to be crappy (which is the most likely scenario), like some uninspired map pack or something, then don't buy it. But if it's Borderlands/GTA4 great, why not?

So paying for deals (Lol) is OK, But playing for Online and a few neat features is stupid? K, Seems legit.....FoolwithaLancer

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

So paying for deals (Lol) is OK, But playing for Online and a few neat features is stupid?

K, Seems legit.....

FoolwithaLancer

I'm not defending PS+ but your argument doesn't make any sense. If all you want to do is play PS3 games online, you don't need PS+ to do so. If you want to play online on the 360, you need a Gold membership. That's the difference. Also, you do get bonus features on PS+ now, like cloud saving, which is actually tempting me now.

My original argument was to a guy who said Live is a ripoff because you pay for Multiplayer, so I was questioning him as to wether he believes it's a ripoff that you have to pay for deals, I know you get a lot of extra features with PSN+, But you get a lot of extra features with Live as well.

[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]So paying for deals (Lol) is OK, But playing for Online and a few neat features is stupid? K, Seems legit.....tormentos

Not free on PC, You have to pay your bills to play online. And so what you have to pay, you get some extra features as well.

[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

I'm not defending PS+ but your argument doesn't make any sense. If all you want to do is play PS3 games online, you don't need PS+ to do so. If you want to play online on the 360, you need a Gold membership. That's the difference. Also, you do get bonus features on PS+ now, like cloud saving, which is actually tempting me now.

kuraimen

My original argument was to a guy who said Live is a ripoff because you pay for Multiplayer, so I was questioning him as to wether he believes it's a ripoff that you have to pay for deals, I know you get a lot of extra features with PSN+, But you get a lot of extra features with Live as well.

Funny, I can still play Fallout New Vegas without even logging on to XBL, Weird huh?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

My original argument was to a guy who said Live is a ripoff because you pay for Multiplayer, so I was questioning him as to wether he believes it's a ripoff that you have to pay for deals, I know you get a lot of extra features with PSN+, But you get a lot of extra features with Live as well.

FoolwithaLancer

Funny, I can still play Fallout New Vegas without even logging on to XVL, Weird huh?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

4 dlc and exclusive liquid metal weapon set. 30 dollars. that comes to 6 dollars a pack including the weapon set.

Slashkice

Half the base price of the game is too much. Granted, these guys aren't the first to overcharge for DLC, and they're definitely not the last, but L.A. Noire did the bundle thing earlier this year too and offered a better deal. Ten bucks and they gave you access to all DLC released and any DLC they release in the future. Compared to what Rockstar did with their pass, the Gears deal just falls short.

Not free on PC, You have to pay your bills to play online. And so what you have to pay, you get some extra features as well.FoolwithaLancer

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Actually no because with PS+ no portion of the game that already paid for is locked if you don't pay. The ripping off part of Live is that you have to pay to unlock something you already paid for. kuraimen

Funny, I can still play Fallout New Vegas without even logging on to XVL, Weird huh?

Oblivion, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Portal 2 (Co-Op can be played Split-Screen) Portal 1, Lost Oddysey, Fallout 3, want me to go on?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Funny, I can still play Fallout New Vegas without even logging on to XVL, Weird huh?

FoolwithaLancer

Oblivion, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Portal 2 (Co-Op can be played Split-Screen) Portal 1, Lost Oddysey, Fallout 3, want me to go on?

[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]Not free on PC, You have to pay your bills to play online. And so what you have to pay, you get some extra features as well.tormentos

K, Stop paying your Electric bills for a while, Then see how well that Online PC works. ;)

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Funny, I can still play Fallout New Vegas without even logging on to XVL, Weird huh?

FoolwithaLancer

Oblivion, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Portal 2 (Co-Op can be played Split-Screen) Portal 1, Lost Oddysey, Fallout 3, want me to go on?

My original argument was to a guy who said Live is a ripoff because you pay for Multiplayer, so I was questioning him as to wether he believes it's a ripoff that you have to pay for deals, I know you get a lot of extra features with PSN+, But you get a lot of extra features with Live as well.

FoolwithaLancer

Right. You do get bonus features with Live. I just think the "pay for deals" thing is a bit off. Most deals you pay for in some way. Buy 2 get 1 half off, you still have to buy the first 2 to get access to the deal. You'll save a crap load in the long run if you shop at Sam's Club, but there's a member's fee. Etc etc.

Planned DLC doesn't exactly mean the DLC is ready. They may have plans to start on the DLC once the game ships, or may have started when the game went gold (assuming it has).

lundy86_4