This is what you get when you build an engine ground up for a specific platform.

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#1 shad0w70
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This is just the begining.. we are now going to see KZ 2 quality visuals & better on the 360! first, FM 3 then SC Conviction & then Allen Wake. What do these 3 games all have in common? well first of all.. none of them use the outdated Unreal 3 engine! lmao! no, seriously though.. their game engines are all being built from the ground up to take the most advantage of the 360"s hardware. Up untill now, most engines for the 360 consisted of the Unreal 3 or some generic multiplat craptastic game engine that really didnt push the 360 to it's full potential. 360 owners rejoice!!! :)
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Those are the most beautifully rendered sentences I've ever seen! Amazing! The Xbox truly is capable of displaying true HD fonts. Now, if only they could learn to take more advantage of the Grammar Processing Unit.

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This is just the begining.. we are now going to see KZ 2 quality visuals & better on the 360! first, FM 3 then SC Conviction & then Allen Wake. What do these 3 games all have in common? well first of all.. none of them use the outdated Unreal 3 engine! lmao! no, seriously though.. their game engines are all being built from the ground up to take the most advantage of the 360"s hardware. Up untill now, most engines for the 360 consisted of the Unreal 3 or some generic multiplat craptastic game engine that really didnt push the 360 to it's full potential. 360 owners rejoice!!! :) shad0w70
YAAAY!! a level 1 dude with 10 posts is reciting facts..
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This is just the begining.. we are now going to see KZ 2 quality visuals & better on the 360! first, FM 3 then SC Conviction & then Allen Wake. What do these 3 games all have in common? well first of all.. none of them use the outdated Unreal 3 engine! lmao! no, seriously though.. their game engines are all being built from the ground up to take the most advantage of the 360"s hardware. Up untill now, most engines for the 360 consisted of the Unreal 3 or some generic multiplat craptastic game engine that really didnt push the 360 to it's full potential. 360 owners rejoice!!! :) shad0w70
Yay all the pretty pics we have of SC and AW were from the superior PC versions which might be canned.

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Those are the most beautifully rendered sentences I've ever seen! Amazing! The Xbox truly is capable of displaying truly HD fonts. Now, if only they could learn to take more advantage of the Grammar Processing Unit.

metroidfood

OMG epic win!!! :lol:

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#6 mithrixx
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Those are the most beautifully rendered sentences I've ever seen! Amazing! The Xbox truly is capable of displaying truly HD fonts. Now, if only they could learn to take more advantage of the Grammar Processing Unit.

psn8214

OMG epic win!!! :lol:

LOL yea i agree. TC earned it.
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#7 darthogre
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so basically you think Gears of Wars looks like crap......is that correct?
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so basically you think Gears of Wars looks like crap......is that correct? darthogre
He's saying Gears of War 2, and the other best looking games on 360 (RE5), are on multi-plat engines. Imagine if games created an engine ground up to create advatages of the 360 hardware.
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]so basically you think Gears of Wars looks like crap......is that correct? After_Math
He's saying Gears of War 2, and the other best looking games on 360 (RE5), are on multi-plat engines. Imagine if games created an engine ground up to create advatages of the 360 hardware.

lol, initially the engine was designed only for X360. Even the devs said they designed the Gears game for the X360 specifically. And yes he basically saying Gears of Wars is subpar to PS3 exclusives and is blaming the engine. Funny, Halo 3 was built for the X360 and I don't remember it being sooooo awesome graphically. So what's the excuse for that since I'm assuming they didn't worry about porting it the PS3.
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[QUOTE="shad0w70"]This is just the begining.. we are now going to see KZ 2 quality visuals & better on the 360! first, FM 3 then SC Conviction & then Allen Wake. What do these 3 games all have in common? well first of all.. none of them use the outdated Unreal 3 engine! lmao! no, seriously though.. their game engines are all being built from the ground up to take the most advantage of the 360"s hardware. Up untill now, most engines for the 360 consisted of the Unreal 3 or some generic multiplat craptastic game engine that really didnt push the 360 to it's full potential. 360 owners rejoice!!! :) brennan7777

Yay all the pretty pics we have of SC and AW were from the superior PC versions which might be canned.

I'm not sure about SC, but I believe only one screen of AW was from the PC version...
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[QUOTE="After_Math"][QUOTE="darthogre"]so basically you think Gears of Wars looks like crap......is that correct? darthogre
He's saying Gears of War 2, and the other best looking games on 360 (RE5), are on multi-plat engines. Imagine if games created an engine ground up to create advatages of the 360 hardware.

lol, initially the engine was designed only for X360. Even the devs said they designed the Gears game for the X360 specifically. And yes he basically saying Gears of Wars is subpar to PS3 exclusives and is blaming the engine. Funny, Halo 3 was built for the X360 and I don't remember it being sooooo awesome graphically. So what's the excuse for that since I'm assuming they didn't worry about porting it the PS3.

Hey, um, about that, Halo 3 used an Updated halo 2 engine, so its really built for the xbox.
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[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="After_Math"] He's saying Gears of War 2, and the other best looking games on 360 (RE5), are on multi-plat engines. Imagine if games created an engine ground up to create advatages of the 360 hardware.bronxxbombers
lol, initially the engine was designed only for X360. Even the devs said they designed the Gears game for the X360 specifically. And yes he basically saying Gears of Wars is subpar to PS3 exclusives and is blaming the engine. Funny, Halo 3 was built for the X360 and I don't remember it being sooooo awesome graphically. So what's the excuse for that since I'm assuming they didn't worry about porting it the PS3.

Hey, um, about that, Halo 3 used an Updated halo 2 engine, so its really built for the xbox.

And Unreal Engine is a multiplat engine.
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This is just the begining.. we are now going to see KZ 2 quality visuals & better on the 360! first, FM 3 then SC Conviction & then Allen Wake. What do these 3 games all have in common? well first of all.. none of them use the outdated Unreal 3 engine! lmao! no, seriously though.. their game engines are all being built from the ground up to take the most advantage of the 360"s hardware. Up untill now, most engines for the 360 consisted of the Unreal 3 or some generic multiplat craptastic game engine that really didnt push the 360 to it's full potential. 360 owners rejoice!!! :) shad0w70

So far what has been shown of those games doesn't really blow me away. Don't get me wrong, I'm looking foward to SC Conviction (though I'll be playing it on the PC) and Alan Wake looks great but I can't say that they look better or even quite as good as KZ2. Could you show me some renders (that we know are being done on the Xbox 360) that show that one or more of these games are going to look so much better than KZ2 and Uncharted 2?

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lol, this is rich.....Cows say they have the best looking games and the response from Lems is "bu, bu it's the multiplat engine and an outdated Xbox engine". Come on, over 3 years on the market and that is going to be the excuse? I really expected better. btw I think all the top notch exclusives look great on both platforms. This constant bickering of who has more pixels or better frame rate is just stupid.....both have great games (and let me reiterate GAMES, not hardware). But I can't help but laugh at the Lems actually now saying "Gears 2 is subpar because of it being built on a multiplat engine"....nevermind the game was BUILT for the X360 specifcally, much like KZ2 was.....or maybe the devs are just full of it. Obviously fanboys know more about this then the devs that create the games.
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#16 shad0w70
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so basically you think Gears of Wars looks like crap......is that correct? darthogre
I'm not saying GoW looks like crap, It was the visual benchmark in it's day, I'm saying that since then, the Unreal 3 engine has been surpassed greatly by others that were built for a specific platform. The Unreal 3 engine runs on PC/360/PS3 platforms aswell.
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#17 After_Math
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[QUOTE="After_Math"][QUOTE="darthogre"]so basically you think Gears of Wars looks like crap......is that correct? darthogre
He's saying Gears of War 2, and the other best looking games on 360 (RE5), are on multi-plat engines. Imagine if games created an engine ground up to create advatages of the 360 hardware.

lol, initially the engine was designed only for X360. Even the devs said they designed the Gears game for the X360 specifically. And yes he basically saying Gears of Wars is subpar to PS3 exclusives and is blaming the engine. Funny, Halo 3 was built for the X360 and I don't remember it being sooooo awesome graphically. So what's the excuse for that since I'm assuming they didn't worry about porting it the PS3.

The Unreal Engine (3) was designed only for Xbox 360? Even tho' EPIC was mainly a PC only developer? Link. And he's saying that compared to newer Xbox 360 exclusives, there will be better looking games on Xbox 360. Halo 3 was built upon a modified Halo 2 engine, Cows use to say it all the time. Also, look at Forza 2 and Forza 3. Forza 3 runs on a new engine, built ground up for the 360. It looks a lot better. I'm not saying it'll look better than this console, etc. but I think it does make a difference.
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#18 shad0w70
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[QUOTE="shad0w70"]This is just the begining.. we are now going to see KZ 2 quality visuals & better on the 360! first, FM 3 then SC Conviction & then Allen Wake. What do these 3 games all have in common? well first of all.. none of them use the outdated Unreal 3 engine! lmao! no, seriously though.. their game engines are all being built from the ground up to take the most advantage of the 360"s hardware. Up untill now, most engines for the 360 consisted of the Unreal 3 or some generic multiplat craptastic game engine that really didnt push the 360 to it's full potential. 360 owners rejoice!!! :) trakem

So far what has been shown of those games doesn't really blow me away. Don't get me wrong, I'm looking foward to SC Conviction (though I'll be playing it on the PC) and Alan Wake looks great but I can't say that they look better or even quite as good as KZ2. Could you show me some renders (that we know are being done on the Xbox 360) that show that one or more of these games are going to look so much better than KZ2 and Uncharted 2?

Sure thing.. I'm not a high enough level to post pic's so, ill post this link here to the FM 3 site & you can judge fairly, or.. let obvious fanboyisim cloud your judgment.. it's your choice. :) http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/game/default.htm
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lol, this is rich.....Cows say they have the best looking games and the response from Lems is "bu, bu it's the multiplat engine and an outdated Xbox engine". Come on, over 3 years on the market and that is going to be the excuse? I really expected better. btw I think all the top notch exclusives look great on both platforms. This constant bickering of who has more pixels or better frame rate is just stupid.....both have great games (and let me reiterate GAMES, not hardware). But I can't help but laugh at the Lems actually now saying "Gears 2 is subpar because of it being built on a multiplat engine"....nevermind the game was BUILT for the X360 specifcally, much like KZ2 was.....or maybe the devs are just full of it. Obviously fanboys know more about this then the devs that create the games.darthogre
The GoW engine (Unreal 3) IS A MULTIPLAT ENGINE! & yes.. GoW was made spcifically for the 360 but.. still, on a MULTIPLAT ENGINE! unlike KZ2, this is very simple to understand! plz stop the autofanboy biass.
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#20 Floppy_Jim
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You're saying we have to wait for games that might look better than Killzone 2?

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#21 shad0w70
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You're saying we have to wait for games that might look better than Killzone 2?

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lol yeah, well.. we waited for games on the PS 3 like KZ 2 did we not? :)
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#22 2mrw
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i admit the quality of those x360 titles you mentioned, but even the engines differ in their quality and art, i may seem a fanboy but i love those PS3 games engines coz they are more inspiring.

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#23 Wings_008
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The engine isn't very important, you don't directly interact with it after all :o, it just means more complex graphics and more realistic moving objects and characters
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The engine isn't very important, you don't directly interact with it after all :o, it just means more complex graphics and more realistic moving objects and characters Wings_008
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#25 BoloTheGreat
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Those are the most beautifully rendered sentences I've ever seen! Amazing! The Xbox truly is capable of displaying true HD fonts. Now, if only they could learn to take more advantage of the Grammar Processing Unit.

metroidfood
The Words are so Crips, those must be bullshots i can see way to much AA in thar first line and the dot's on the i's look potoshopped. The Cell can render those words at twice the resolution, LOL Native full HD fonts are not possible on the 360 and don't go on about the 360 having a better Word Processor because the Cell can Render 2 billion characters per second