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#1 InfamousC
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Enough said.

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#2 kyubiitachi001
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BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nope
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Doesnt support Firefox therefore it sucks.
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#4 Nagidar
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I actually found it funny, they're talking about the PS3, than show a video of Assassin's Creed from the 360.  lol
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#5 odin2019
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2008 more like 2007

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#6 GsSanAndreas
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BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopekyubiitachi001


We dont need achievments, we get all the extras right away,  and who needs Halo 3, its not going to be much diff from halo 1 and 2 , and i tougt those 2 suck hard
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#7 Danm_999
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What is it? It doesn't let me in with Firefox.
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BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopekyubiitachi001
:lol: like real gamers need the achievments gimmick. Achievements are 50 times mre gimmicky than tilt. and halo 3? ooh i feel like wasting $400 on a new system right now
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Doesnt support Firefox therefore it sucks.GazzaB
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Good stuff.  I don't give a kcuf what anybody says, graphically, Afrika ownz all. 
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BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopekyubiitachi001
wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.
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#12 kyubiitachi001
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how about GoW or Fable 2???? the PS3 might have memory but it's small downstairs
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[QUOTE="GazzaB"]Doesnt support Firefox therefore it sucks.klabut


Agreeing with you two.
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[QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopekingyoto
wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

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how about GoW or Fable 2???? the PS3 might have memory but it's small downstairskyubiitachi001

PS has God of War =p, and Fable did not deliver on the Xbox, what makes you think it will this time?

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Sure it will, and Ken Kutaragi will put on a red coat, fake beard, 4D glasses and hop on his magic sleigh, loaded with PS3s, and deliver them to all the good little boys and girls.
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[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeNagidar

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm
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[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeNagidar

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

I disagree it had to compete with the Dreamcast. Gamecube and Xbox were only one year late PS2 won because it had the better games and more developer support.

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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeJayPee89

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeDanm_999

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

 Exactly.

SEGA was nearly bankrupt when the PS2 launched, SEGA was hoping the DC would be their savior, they were wrong, SEGA couldn't financially support the DC.

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeDanm_999

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.
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Nintendo isn't going to last over the years though.  Yeah sure it had strong start out of the gate but halfway through this race it won't be able to keep up its pace it will fall  behind.
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#23 Daffy101
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BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopekyubiitachi001
I do give that to you. Achievements are fun to unlock but I don't obsess over it. Halo 3 is overhyped though.
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#24 Puckhog04
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GamerTV actually appears on the pay channels (i believe it was the encore set) from time to time. I've actually seen that exact episode (it outlines the 360's, Wii's, and PS3's lineups for this year)...ironically enough, those same guys that praise the few PS3 games that look good pretty much go all out on the 360 lineup, stating how incredible all the games for the 360 look coming out this year. :|
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Nintendo isn't going to last over the years though. Yeah sure it had strong start out of the gate but halfway through this race it won't be able to keep up its pace it will fall behind.odin2019
How do you know that exactly?
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[QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]how about GoW or Fable 2???? the PS3 might have memory but it's small downstairsOXIIIIXO

PS has God of War =p, and Fable did not deliver on the Xbox, what makes you think it will this time?

I meant gears

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopedownPlayDemon

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.
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Nintendo isn't going to last over the years though.  Yeah sure it had strong start out of the gate but halfway through this race it won't be able to keep up its pace it will fall  behind.odin2019
especially with this weak lineup. http://wii.ign.com/index/release.html In terms of handhelds, i dont see them being dethroned ever, since all japanese companies support DS over PSP at least 15 times coughsquareenixcough.
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#29 beyondgamez
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Playstation 3 will catch up to the 360 thats for sure..I can feel  a lot of great games goin to come out for the ps3 2008 and 2009..this year they have great games as well motor storm, VF5, Heavenly Sword, Lair, and perhaps even Warhawk..and this is on the ps3 exclusive..other that is mulitplatform is makin it way to the ps3..i glad i purchase a ps3..and halo 3 looks the same as halo 2..i dont see any difference..
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[QUOTE="klabut"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]Doesnt support Firefox therefore it sucks.Aquat1cF1sh


Agreeing with you two.

Yep, a site that fails to support firefox looses all credibility it may have had.
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[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeNagidar

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, and the main reason was the games, not the time it came out. The Xbox and GameCube had plenty of time to get up there sales wise.
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[QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeDanm_999

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.

After a while, investors would get angry, so if 360 became as much of a finacial disaster as xbox 1, which cost them 4 billion dollars in damages by the time 360 came out, then that would have been the end. So not even microsoft could stay here "indefinately"
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[QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeGsSanAndreas


We dont need achievments, we get all the extras right away, and who needs Halo 3, its not going to be much diff from halo 1 and 2 , and i tougt those 2 suck hard

Wow, talk about an ignorant response. Get all the extras right away, achievements don't do that! You have everything in the game, getting achievements just encourages one to play more, sorta like the badges and medals in BF2, but for every game. There awesome, and the PS3 doesn't have them! Not even going to respond to your Halo comment as it was so stupid.
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Playstation 3 will catch up to the 360 thats for sure..I can feel  a lot of great games goin to come out for the ps3 2008 and 2009..this year they have great games as well motor storm, VF5, Heavenly Sword, Lair, and perhaps even Warhawk..and this is on the ps3 exclusive..other that is mulitplatform is makin it way to the ps3..i glad i purchase a ps3..and halo 3 looks the same as halo 2..i dont see any difference..
beyondgamez

VF5 isn't an exclusive, it's being released on the 360 as well.

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#35 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopedownPlayDemon

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.

After a while, investors would get angry, so if 360 became as much of a finacial disaster as xbox 1, which cost them 4 billion dollars in damages by the time 360 came out, then that would have been the end. So not even microsoft could stay here "indefinately"

You do realise Microsoft did not create the Xbox to make money, but to carve themselves a marketshare in the console industry. Sega was in no way a bigger threat than Microsoft.
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#36 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nope_AsasN_

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, and the main reason was the games, not the time it came out. The Xbox and GameCube had plenty of time to get up there sales wise.

 You don't get it, the PS2 had a HUGE lead when the GCN and Xbox was launched, the PS2 had such a huge fan base it was nearly impossible for the GCN and Xbox to catch up. If all 3 systems were launched around the same time, it may have been a little different.

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[QUOTE="odin2019"]Nintendo isn't going to last over the years though. Yeah sure it had strong start out of the gate but halfway through this race it won't be able to keep up its pace it will fall behind.ithilgore2006
How do you know that exactly?

Simply think of wii sports 2 or the next madden game pretty you use the controller the exact same way as you did the first time and creative innovation is gone just like that.  When MGS4 and the other big timer games come out for the other next gen consoles its gonna be all over just wait and see.

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#38 odin2019
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[QUOTE="odin2019"]Nintendo isn't going to last over the years though.  Yeah sure it had strong start out of the gate but halfway through this race it won't be able to keep up its pace it will fall  behind.downPlayDemon
especially with this weak lineup. http://wii.ign.com/index/release.html In terms of handhelds, i dont see them being dethroned ever, since all japanese companies support DS over PSP at least 15 times coughsquareenixcough.

Nintendo will still be around in the next few years but the wii won't be the #1 next gen console, its just not going to happen.  It takes more than a new controller to win a console war.

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[QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeDanm_999

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.

After a while, investors would get angry, so if 360 became as much of a finacial disaster as xbox 1, which cost them 4 billion dollars in damages by the time 360 came out, then that would have been the end. So not even microsoft could stay here "indefinately"

You do realise Microsoft did not create the Xbox to make money, but to carve themselves a marketshare in the console industry. Sega was in no way a bigger threat than Microsoft.

Exactly. People don't realize that MS has a 3 console plan to takeover the game industry. The first was to introduce a brand. The second is to further establish brand recognition, and marketshare. The third will be to take that #1 spot.
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[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeNagidar

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, and the main reason was the games, not the time it came out. The Xbox and GameCube had plenty of time to get up there sales wise.

 You don't get it, the PS2 had a HUGE lead when the GCN and Xbox was launched, the PS2 had such a huge fan base it was nearly impossible for the GCN and Xbox to catch up. If all 3 systems were launched around the same time, it may have been a little different.

PS2 only shipped about 10 million in it's first year. 360 is in the same situation the PS2 had but except PS2 sales increased as the years went on while 360s sales are declining.

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im going to go ahead and say: 'Meh'. Heavenly Sword looks awesome.. however, my only reason to get a PS3 is for Kingdom hearts 3, but.. im not going to spend 798 Canadian for one game.
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We are tired of waiting sorry.
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeInfamousC

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, and the main reason was the games, not the time it came out. The Xbox and GameCube had plenty of time to get up there sales wise.

 You don't get it, the PS2 had a HUGE lead when the GCN and Xbox was launched, the PS2 had such a huge fan base it was nearly impossible for the GCN and Xbox to catch up. If all 3 systems were launched around the same time, it may have been a little different.

PS2 only shipped about 10 million in it's first year. 360 is in the same situation the PS2 had but except PS2 sales increased as the years went on while 360s sales are declining.

Link?

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[QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeDanm_999

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.

After a while, investors would get angry, so if 360 became as much of a finacial disaster as xbox 1, which cost them 4 billion dollars in damages by the time 360 came out, then that would have been the end. So not even microsoft could stay here "indefinately"

You do realise Microsoft did not create the Xbox to make money, but to carve themselves a marketshare in the console industry. Sega was in no way a bigger threat than Microsoft.

???? all companies live to make money. If you even out there is nothing wrong with that, but if you keep loosing money you will have to stop whatever it is that you are doing. If you know what is good for your company.
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopePuckhog04

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, and the main reason was the games, not the time it came out. The Xbox and GameCube had plenty of time to get up there sales wise.

You don't get it, the PS2 had a HUGE lead when the GCN and Xbox was launched, the PS2 had such a huge fan base it was nearly impossible for the GCN and Xbox to catch up. If all 3 systems were launched around the same time, it may have been a little different.

PS2 only shipped about 10 million in it's first year. 360 is in the same situation the PS2 had but except PS2 sales increased as the years went on while 360s sales are declining.

Link?

They probably are, seeing as it's after Christmas and all.
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#46 Bren128
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeInfamousC

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

  Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

I disagree it had to compete with the Dreamcast. Gamecube and Xbox were only one year late PS2 won because it had the better games and more developer support.

exactly, ps2 dominated because of its vast great game library and awesome 3rd party support. And might i mention as of right now, sony STILL has more 3rd party support then ms and nintendo.
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeDanm_999

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, and the main reason was the games, not the time it came out. The Xbox and GameCube had plenty of time to get up there sales wise.

You don't get it, the PS2 had a HUGE lead when the GCN and Xbox was launched, the PS2 had such a huge fan base it was nearly impossible for the GCN and Xbox to catch up. If all 3 systems were launched around the same time, it may have been a little different.

PS2 only shipped about 10 million in it's first year. 360 is in the same situation the PS2 had but except PS2 sales increased as the years went on while 360s sales are declining.

Link?

They probably are, seeing as it's after Christmas and all.

Every console's sales decrease after christmas...it's not something that is inherent to only the 360. He states it as if it's a bad thing though...and in this instance (that you stated) it wouldn't be, it would simply be normal.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopedownPlayDemon

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.

After a while, investors would get angry, so if 360 became as much of a finacial disaster as xbox 1, which cost them 4 billion dollars in damages by the time 360 came out, then that would have been the end. So not even microsoft could stay here "indefinately"

You do realise Microsoft did not create the Xbox to make money, but to carve themselves a marketshare in the console industry. Sega was in no way a bigger threat than Microsoft.

???? all companies live to make money. If you even out there is nothing wrong with that, but if you keep loosing money you will have to stop whatever it is that you are doing. If you know what is good for your company.

Yes, every company intends to make profit as their end goal. But it's not unheard of for companies to forego profit to meet a specific end; ie scoop up market share. You establish a dominant market share, then you can worry about profit. And Microsoft can keep losing fantastic amounts on the Xbox, but it really doesn't affect the revenue from their OS side of business, which will always dwarf the entire console market.
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360 is outselling PS3, you trying to pass opinion as fact, self owns you.

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#50 Bren128
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="downPlayDemon"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="kyubiitachi001"]BULLS#!^ does the PS3 have acheivments NO!!!! does it have halo 3 nopeJayPee89

wow halo 3 i forgot about halo 3 everybody big news the ps3 will lose the console war because there is no halo3. how did sony even make a system when they must have been thinking about halo. how did ps2 win that gen there was no halo 3. lemmings can't stand em.

Just to get technical, the PS2 won because it had no competition for a long time, both the GCN and Xbox were released too late last gen. Nothing against the PS2, I have one and love it, but don't try to pull "But last gen" stuff, because there are resons for every console in history that beat other console.

Yeah, that 10+ million user base on the Dreamcast wasn't competition at all. /sarcasm

With Sega's financial vulnerability, it was nowhere near as problematic as Nintendo or Microsoft.

dreamcast was more of a threat than the xbox 1, an unproven piece of garbage with no good exclusives other than Halo, NG, DOA.

Microsoft can remain in the market indefinitely, Sega after the disastrous Saturn needed to generate a large dominance quickly. They could not retain themselves nearly as long as either Nintendo or Microsoft, therefore, they were hardly a threat, as they limped into last generation crippled.

After a while, investors would get angry, so if 360 became as much of a finacial disaster as xbox 1, which cost them 4 billion dollars in damages by the time 360 came out, then that would have been the end. So not even microsoft could stay here "indefinately"

You do realise Microsoft did not create the Xbox to make money, but to carve themselves a marketshare in the console industry. Sega was in no way a bigger threat than Microsoft.

Exactly. People don't realize that MS has a 3 console plan to takeover the game industry. The first was to introduce a brand. The second is to further establish brand recognition, and marketshare. The third will be to take that #1 spot.

In ms plan, does that include failing to gain much of the market with the xbox and ditch it after 4 years?