This is why technical graphics doesn't matter

A game is based on artistic merit not on technical merit. I am baffled when I hear that a game has technical merit that doesn't match its artistic merit. Games like resistance or dragon age, etc may be more technically advanced but aren't as pretty as games like Donkey Kong Country returns. When I saw the SOTC HD video, I was honestly blown away. To believe that a game can look this good and be on a console like ps2 and still manage to look better than 80% of games on next generation consoles is unbelievable achievement. If only the game didn't have pop-in (fix this please).

http://www.vandal.net/video/15144/jugando-a-shadow-of-the-colossus-hd-vandal-tv

What are you smoking? That looks nowhere near as good as "80% of games this generation".

What are you smoking? That looks nowhere near as good as "80% of games this generation".

WreckEm711

Great art subjective Great technical graphics factMFDOOM1983

You can't see Technical, it's all invisible. Thus, Art > technical

Great art subjective Great technical graphics factMFDOOM1983

When talking about just "graphics" though, it's an all inclusive entity, a marriage of the two.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Great art subjective Great technical graphics facthip-fire

You can't see Technical, it's all invisible. Thus, Art > technical

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Great art subjective Great technical graphics facttopgunmv

When talking about just "graphics" though, it's an all inclusive entity, a marriage of the two.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Great art subjective Great technical graphics facttopgunmv

When talking about just "graphics" though, it's an all inclusive entity, a marriage of the two.

i disagree. one of the reason i stopped playing this on the PS2 was the the framerate was so bad. now with the aid of better tech that great artsic vision can better realized

To believe that a game can look this good and be on a console like ps2 and still manage to look better than 80% of games on next generation consoles is unbelievable achievement.

nhh18

except its not on the ps2... its on the ps3. the version in that video.

What are you smoking? That looks nowhere near as good as "80% of games this generation".

WreckEm711

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Great art subjective Great technical graphics facthip-fire

You can't see Technical, it's all invisible. Thus, Art > technical

Art direction is the basis for the technical aspects to become reality. Without the precise lighting and technical clarity of good graphics the Art gets lost. Dead space 2 has some of the best art direction and environments but its only when you add the technical aspect of the lighting then it really pops and comes to life. They are one in the same really. Get a team who is good at both and you have gold

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

What are you smoking? That looks nowhere near as good as "80% of games this generation".

nhh18

The standards for godly must have dropped significantly :/ That wasn't impressive by any means compared to many games today

I'm am one who believes that great art design is more important than technical graphics. I'd rather look at Morrowind, Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask, SotC, Wind Waker, Okami, FFX, RE4, Borderlands,Tales of Vesperia, Guild Wars, and many others over games like Crysis and Battlefield 3 any day (still super excited for BF3 though!).

The best if a mixture of both however... the Witcher 2 & RAGE come to mind.

From my experiences listening to gamers,we are all to some degree "Graphics whores". We can say how much it doesn't matter and still enjoy games with horrible graphics. But when it boils down we are all waiting to see games and love seeing games that look really close to real life. Once Crysis 2 stuff started to show up the graphics deviants withing in us all came out and all of a sudden we all talked about the graphics. The same with BF3. The game only showed a few videos and it has generated unbelievable hype because of how it looks. Because it looks really close to real life. I agree that I can still enjoy a game that has bad graphics but fantastic art style. But I am not going to hide that I love very good graphics.

Don't know why you pick Resistance and Dragon Age, Killzone and Gears are RIGHT THERE.

I don't know how things work in other countries, but in America, my opinion is fact and your facts are opinions. And I have an easier time proving my opinions with technical merit than I do with proving artistic facts.

Gibberish? My opinion is NO. Fact.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Great art subjective Great technical graphics facthip-fire

You can't see Technical, it's all invisible. Thus, Art > technical

You can see lots going on screen at once.

This:

Doesn't look better than this:

Wow that horse runs weird :?.......but i agree on art style being very important. However, techincal graphics are still impressive initially. You picked the wrong game though, as Wind Waker is a game that will look truely TIMELESS forever. Nothing will top that.

I agree that graphics is a huge necessity with the immersion of video games. DEFCON on the PC could not have been graphically any other way and perfectly conveysthe theme of the game.Gotta make this system wars so...

Example: I would never say DEFCON straight up looks better than GEoW, it was just done better.