This whole "exclusives race" thing

Okay. I've noticed that about every nine minutes on this forum, another thread is posted arguing the number of exclusives for this or that as being suppirior to the number of exclusives to "the other guy", followed by seven pages of argument. And this perplexes me. I mean, there can only be one answer; it's mathmatical. There just can't be room to skew this. This isn't about which one is "better" or which has the "highest quality" this or that. It's a number, a list, that's it! So, here it is:

We'll start with the Xbox360 vs. the PS3 (since they argue this point the most, and the PC and Wii are kind of in their own respective niches).

All you have to do is just give the longer list of exclusives to your console. I don't care about professional rating, it's subjective and therefor useless. There are only two rules: It has to be avalable now (no TBA) and Xbox Users; nothing from the Indie game sections. We will hold this to professional games, becasue "Try Not to Fart" isn't really a game in my eyes, it's a daily struggle. Bue enough of that.

Stick to these rules and the longest list wins. No quibbling, no argument, just numbers. This shouldn't be so hard.

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

LegatoSkyheart

Alright? Are you saying that this is why quality is such an important factor in this race? I do agree with you, it's hugely important. I own and hate my Wii, even though it's flooded with exclusives, but I think they're all trash. But I know people who love them. So, that get's us no where. The idea behind this thread is simple, baby-step progression, starting with numbers, lists. Maybe just to have a side admit one thing for once. Realization leads to Reasonability leads to Peace. That's what the soul-focus on numbers can begin.

In a war, the country with the most guns isn't necessarily going to be the one who wins, but once that is established, each side can think differently and change their stratagies accordingly. The war will continue without a doubt, but one bit of ambiguity will be washed away.

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

LegatoSkyheart

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

SUD123456

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

SUD123456

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

lol wut?

Are you telling me that Multiplats sell a console? Cause that's horrible. If one was researching to buy a console they would look at the Features and the Games.

If the Games are the Same across the Board then you would have to look at the Features and excluding the Wii the Xbox 360 plays Movies, the PS3 plays Movies, 360 plays Music, PS3 plays Music.

What would be the Deciding factor? The Exclusives!

You can't Play Halo on a PS3! You can't Play Little Big Planet on the 360!

Exclusives sell the Console! Look at the Wii and Wiisports! Look at the 360 and Halo 3! Look at the PS3 and Metal Gear Solid 4!

The only Multiplat that I know that Sold Consoles was Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, and that's because Microsoft had a Marketing Campaign with Activision. They tried to do the Same thing with Final Fantasy 13 but I'm still seeing FF13 360s being sold so obviously that didn't work.

Exclusives sell the Console.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

vadicta

Alright? Are you saying that this is why quality is such an important factor in this race? I do agree with you, it's hugely important. I own and hate my Wii, even though it's flooded with exclusives, but I think they're all trash. But I know people who love them. So, that get's us no where. The idea behind this thread is simple, baby-step progression, starting with numbers, lists. Maybe just to have a side admit one thing for once. Realization leads to Reasonability leads to Peace. That's what the soul-focus on numbers can begin.

In a war, the country with the most guns isn't necessarily going to be the one who wins, but once that is established, each side can think differently and change their stratagies accordingly. The war will continue without a doubt, but one bit of ambiguity will be washed away.

Multiplats are important to the overal Library too but it's the Exclusives that should be the Deciding Factor on whether you should get the console or not.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

SUD123456

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

shinrabanshou

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

Presumably you have never heard about total game library, price, what are my friends playing, or consumer product adoption curves, coefficients of innovation and imitation, or the Bass Model in general.

Or perhaps you haven't actually looked at the data.

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

SUD123456

Presumably you have never heard about total game library, price, what are my friends playing, or consumer product adoption curves, coefficients of innovation and imitation, or the Bass Model in general.

Or perhaps you haven't actually looked at the data.

the red is the only ones that make sense to meare the 2 ones in red. Please believe a normal gamer rarely cares about total game library because they can only play one game at a time. Exclusives are the exception. They are the ones that push the gamer over in one direction when the2 red facts become unimportant to the consumer (meaning 1. they have the money to spend so money is not an issue and 2. they could careless what their friends play).

Man, here I thought the one thing we could all agree on were that exclusives were important to consoles' success... You'll find anything to argue over -_- Someone needs to write a textbook on inter-console relations :P

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

SUD123456

Presumably you have never heard about total game library, price, what are my friends playing, or consumer product adoption curves, coefficients of innovation and imitation, or the Bass Model in general.

Or perhaps you haven't actually looked at the data.

But to say that differentiators like exclusives are largely irrelevant to what sells a console is foolish.

Major exclusives aren't nearly as important as SW makes them out to be, but they still make a difference. See Japanese PS3 sales the month of FFXIII's release. See Halo 3's release month. "Total game library" being bigger also isn't nearly as important as system wars makes out either.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Exclusives are what sell the Console and are what make the Console different from Each other.

shinrabanshou

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

I feel you TC, I have all the machines and have enjoyed so many games over the years...one point though, that may be missed.

What if one console (console A) had a very large headstart timewise, but the other console (console B) is managing to catch up despite the huge headstart of console A?

That would mean that years older, more irrelevant games are propping the first console (console A) up, numerically, but don't reflect the momentum shift.

Yes, console A is the victor, but the numbers don't reflect that a large share of exclusives came and remain at the beginning of console A's life...which then makes you wonder of the future for both machines.

Also, one could argue that Game A on Console A is better than five Game B's on Console B.

In the end, it comes down to taste, what the consumer wants, and the future of the machine, as well as the back catalog...I would argue the future games coming out seem more important to many gamers/consumers though.

I couldn't decide, so I end up buying them all at launch every generation! :P

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

One of the larger myths on SWs. Exclusives are a minor part of what sells the console.

designer-

I would say several single major exclusives, a Halo: Reach, a Gears 3, a God of War III, a GT5, are more of a selling point than having a larger "total library", with a lot of games the average consumer will have never heard of or will never get around to playing.

We will hold this to professional games, becasue "Try Not to Fart" isn't really a game in my eyes, it's a daily struggle.

vadicta

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