Thought PC graphics can't get better? Think again...

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#1 redneckdouglas
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Preview of DirectX 11. Available for both Vista & upcoming Windows 7 Operating System. Console games now look like toys in comparison.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=353789

//VR-zone is a PC-ethusiast website.

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#2 Locke562
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Looks nice, But I doubt we'll see it before the next round of Consoles are out.
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#3 Fignewton50
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Meh, decent looking pics, but I'm not getting hyped up after the DirectX 10 letdown. Seems like a bunch of Marketing B.S. to me.
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#4 heretrix
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Desktop Wallpaper. GOTY 2008, 2009 AND 2010.

I can't wait to play that game. 

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Dayum!
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#6 soiheardyoulike
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Looks good but i hope it is not mismanaged like dx10 and vista were when they first came out.
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#7 TreyoftheDead
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That second picture is pretty impressive, but uhhh...who cares? I'll care when I see it implemented in a cool game.
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#8 redneckdouglas
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Don't worry. DirectX11 is made by Microsoft so the next XBOX will likely have DirectX11 capabilities. DirectX11 supports multi-threading, meaning CPU/GPU will scale better than DX10 ever did.
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#9 mr_mozilla
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Doesn't matter, games won't be using it untill consoles have the same technology as well, PC market alone simply can't support a high budget titles targeted only to a minority of PC gamers. Even Dx10 is still just tacked on to most games, some don't have it at all and I'm not sure if any game takes full use of it.
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#10 Microdevine
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theres no way those are actually in game graphics.i agree with the one guy.probably desktop wallpaper.but ill guess pre rendered cut scenes at best.
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#11 Brainkiller05
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They're insane, especially the first one.
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#12 mitu123
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Sweet.
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#13 AnnoyedDragon
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Remember the DX10 preview pics? I'll wait and see thanks.
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#14 II_Seraphim_II
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Wait...whoever said PC graphics cant get better? Because they need a beat down :P
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Doesn't matter, games won't be using it untill consoles have the same technology as well, PC market alone simply can't support a high budget titles targeted only to a minority of PC gamers. Even Dx10 is still just tacked on to most games, some don't have it at all and I'm not sure if any game takes full use of it.mr_mozilla

What about Crysis?  Not that it was great because of DX10, but it was definitely targeted at a minority of PC gamers who could actually run the game.  

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#16 Wasdie  Moderator
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Its funny they are pushing DX11 when current hardware cant even handle DX10.
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#17 SapSacPrime
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I was expecting more Crysis pics, at least that would actually be a game :|. But who argues that PC doesn't have the best graphics? a decent graphic card costs the same as a console so it should aswell.
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#18 Lidve
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Meh, decent looking pics, but I'm not getting hyped up after the DirectX 10 letdown. Seems like a bunch of Marketing B.S. to me. Fignewton50

"decent looking"

:roll:

even if those screens are bs you cant just say they are decent - those look awesome and if they are indeed realtime 3d than its fantastic

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#19 mr_mozilla
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[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]Doesn't matter, games won't be using it untill consoles have the same technology as well, PC market alone simply can't support a high budget titles targeted only to a minority of PC gamers. Even Dx10 is still just tacked on to most games, some don't have it at all and I'm not sure if any game takes full use of it.Fignewton50

What about Crysis?  Not that it was great because of DX10, but it was definitely targeted at a minority of PC gamers who could actually run the game.  

I guess there are always few games that try to push the boundaries like Crysis and Project Offset. But Crysis was still build around DX9 with relatively low system requirements ..and even then I don't recall them being very happy with the sales, it's simply not good business to limit your customer base like that. 
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]Meh, decent looking pics, but I'm not getting hyped up after the DirectX 10 letdown. Seems like a bunch of Marketing B.S. to me. Lidve

"decent looking"

:roll:

even if those screens are bs you cant just say they are decent - those look awesome and if they are indeed realtime 3d than its fantastic

For still pics, they do look decent. With enough time amatuer graphic designers could create something like that. The water looks cool and the texture on the stairs looks good, but the last two look like crap.

These pics are supposed to showcase the best that DX11 can really do, and I'm not that impressed.  They are still images. Put them in motion, reduce the quality, and we'll get a rough idea what we'll see in games.  What am I missing?

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#21 Lidve
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]Meh, decent looking pics, but I'm not getting hyped up after the DirectX 10 letdown. Seems like a bunch of Marketing B.S. to me. Fignewton50

"decent looking"

:roll:

even if those screens are bs you cant just say they are decent - those look awesome and if they are indeed realtime 3d than its fantastic

For still pics, they do look decent. With enough time amatuer graphic designers could create something like that. The water looks cool and the texture on the stairs looks good, but the last two look like crap.

These pics are supposed to showcase the best that DX11 can really do, and I'm not that impressed. They are still images. Put them in motion, reduce the quality, and we'll get a rough idea what we'll see in games. What am I missing?

Yes they could create something like it.. and put it to render for 3 hours lol

DirectX showcases real time technologies and its awesome that we will soon see stuff like this or mybe benchmarks

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#22 Fignewton50
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]Doesn't matter, games won't be using it untill consoles have the same technology as well, PC market alone simply can't support a high budget titles targeted only to a minority of PC gamers. Even Dx10 is still just tacked on to most games, some don't have it at all and I'm not sure if any game takes full use of it.mr_mozilla

What about Crysis?  Not that it was great because of DX10, but it was definitely targeted at a minority of PC gamers who could actually run the game.  

I guess there are always few games that try to push the boundaries like Crysis and Project Offset. But Crysis was still build around DX9 with relatively low system requirements ..and even then I don't recall them being very happy with the sales, it's simply not good business to limit your customer base like that. 

Crysis had low system requirements?  No.  It took months for sub-$300 graphics cards to be able to run Crysis on anything above Medium settings.   Even now Very High settings take a nice rig to produce. 

I don't think the sales were that bad. I remember seeing an article on here about how quickly they reached a million sales.  Not sure where they're at now. I can only imagine they've been steady since people are constantly upgrading their video cards.  I still haven't bought the game yet because I'm waiting to get a new GPU to experience it.   

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#23 AnnoyedDragon
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Considering one of the significant improvements in DX11 is the standardization of GPU computing via the compute shader, I'd be more interested in seeing how they plan to enhance games with hardware acceleration than prettier graphics.
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#24 mo0ksi
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What's the point of this when current hardware has trouble with DX10?
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#25 bad_fur_day
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Awesome. But really those scenes could probably be done on the xbox right now...
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#26 Lidve
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Awesome. But really those scenes could probably be done on the xbox right now...bad_fur_day

yes and i could go and fly to gamespot headquarters in few seconds on my broomstick

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#27 Fredsworld
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Omg it looks like irl.. O_O!
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#28 TreyoftheDead
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Awesome. But really those scenes could probably be done on the xbox right now...bad_fur_day

Look at the picture of the ocean and say that again with a straight face. :P

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#29 PS2_ROCKS
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[QUOTE="bad_fur_day"]Awesome. But really those scenes could probably be done on the xbox right now...Lidve

yes and i could go and fly to gamespot headquarters in few seconds on my broomstick

I lol'd....the was awesome.

Anyways I think they should let the curremt devs wrap their feeble minds around Direct X 10 before 11 comes out...

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#30 blues35301
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directx11 is coming out? when? there arent even enough games that use dx10 properly. i dont even want to think about this lol
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#31 foxhound_fox
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I guess I'll wait until Windows 7 comes out now. No point in moving to Vista if I can just skip it.

directx11 is coming out? when? there arent even enough games that use dx10 properly. i dont even want to think about this lolblues35301

As little as I know about DirectX, DX10 is just a glorified DX9. DX11 looks like it will actually *change* things about DX9 into a whole new level of detail.
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#32 Fusible
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It will crazy when I see games like that.
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#33 bad_fur_day
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You tards, it's just a water algorythm and a sky, the're doing water in real time now. Unreal Engine for Gears of War 2 has ambient occlusion which is a fake global illumination, which would look almost identical to the other pictures.

One scene byitself without a game around it, you could have millions of polygons in it, HDRI lighting, normal maps, spec maps, depth of field, motion blur, ambient occlusion, high res textures all on xbox at 1080i. They probably have light caustics worked out in real time too.

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#34 Mlauthemighty
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Awesome. But really those scenes could probably be done on the xbox right now...bad_fur_day

I'm certain it could show those pictures.

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#35 jharv
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Those graphics seems like a lot of fun to play.
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#36 EuroMafia
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Its funny they are pushing DX11 when current hardware cant even handle DX10.Wasdie
They're getting ready for Xbox 720
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its funny they are pushing DX11 when current hardware cant even handle DX10.EuroMafia
They're getting ready for Xbox 720

 

I'm not really sure they've made the money they want to yet.

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#38 Gamer556
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I'm not that impressed with these images considering there isn't a game running behind it. I've seen graphics card demos that look similar to this for years, and I'm sure even consoles could render graphics not substantially worse than this given certain conditions.
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#39 shadow_hosi
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if windows 7 isnt broken like vista....ill have to get me a dx11 card :D

 

my 8800 has lasted me a while and when this comes out ill be ready for it

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#40 Firebird-5
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Looks nice, But I doubt we'll see it before the next round of Consoles are out. Locke562

It's packaged with Windows 7. Which is set for release next year, I'm going for a Q2/3 release.

Go figure.

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Doesn't matter, games won't be using it untill consoles have the same technology as well, PC market alone simply can't support a high budget titles targeted only to a minority of PC gamers. Even Dx10 is still just tacked on to most games, some don't have it at all and I'm not sure if any game takes full use of it.mr_mozilla

Really? Crysis only costed 22 million to make and they made a profit easily.

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#42 slickchris7777
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its funny they are pushing DX11 when current hardware cant even handle DX10.EuroMafia
They're getting ready for Xbox 720

source?

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#43 schu
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to the person who said directx 10 was a disappointment

 

...it was for DEVELOPERS mainly

 

it added some effects, but it made the old ones more efficient

 

also...

 

i think that i can see with directx 11 that we are going to see games that are wayyyy too goddamn grainy

 

not everything in life has that much texture..or if it does, the average persons vision certainly doesnt see that much detail

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#44 IshmaelSonata
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Isnt there a huge chance that next gen consoles will have DX 11? I mean they're due late 2010 at the earliest. Theres ample time for Sony and MS to design their console around new technology.
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#45 Jamiemydearx3
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Meh, decent looking pics, but I'm not getting hyped up after the DirectX 10 letdown. Seems like a bunch of Marketing B.S. to me. Fignewton50
lolwut? Crysis's water look just as good as the DX10 pictures did.

 

Nvm I lied :lol: