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#1 dimar19
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I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
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#2 Hir0_N
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#3 Kahuna_1
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They cannot control the reviews..i honestly think a couple games are a few points underrated, but everything was scored accordingly. 

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#4 Kev_Unreal
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ummmmmm who care about reviews?
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#5 echelon
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Was there a big argument over games that got an 8.7 or better that I missed?
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#6 Philosoma
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Sony really needs to get some awesome games out. I see 360 going the way of the Dreamcast, which also had a sweet lineup but couldn't compete against the Playstation brand.
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#7 dimar19
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They cannot control the reviews..i honestly think a couple games are a few points underrated, but everything was scored accordingly. Kahuna_1


 Agree, VF 5 must be > 8.5. They gave low score cause no online, but why GS doesn't score stuppid online only shooters like Battlefield in 7-8 region cause they don't have single at all?
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#8 X_CAPCOM_X
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Was there a big argument over games that got an 8.7 or better that I missed?echelon
No, there wasn't. Nobody said GRAW 2 flopped.
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#9 Qanio
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ummmmmm who care about reviews?Kev_Unreal
agreed just because someone on a game site reviews a game doesnt mean it will actually suck, its all in an opinion.
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#10 HazeNPopes
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Sony really needs to get some awesome games out. I see 360 going the way of the Dreamcast, which also had a sweet lineup but couldn't compete against the Playstation brand.Philosoma
Sony do have awesome games but according to fanboy logic, they`re "flops".
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#11 topcatyo
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The PS3 has good games, it's just the reviewers didn't think they were as good as the 360's.

Forget not that reviews are opinions.

I will say that.  The PS3 is still in a game drought, though.

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#12 Son_of_Some
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The GS reviews are not something I'd like to focus on because

The review system is flawed!

FLAWED I SAY!

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#13 Number_1_Gamer
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Cows don't play games. As long as they can drop their virtual Bravias down some virtual stairs, while being surrounded by advertising DESPITE already paying $600 for the system, they're happy.

Oh, but they have virtual billiards in their "HOME".

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#14 TuneSeeker
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ummmmmm who care about reviews?Kev_Unreal
Five bucks says that if you had good games on launch you'd be saying "NU UH OUR GAMES GOT GOOD REVIEWS TOO"
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#16 topcatyo
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[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]ummmmmm who care about reviews?TuneSeeker
Five bucks says that if you had good games on launch you'd be saying "NU UH OUR GAMES GOT GOOD REVIEWS TOO"

And Xbox fanboys would say reviews don't matter if they didn't have AAA games.

I still don't understand why people are suprised by fanboy hypocrasy.

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#17 dimar19
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The PS3 has good games, it's just the reviewers didn't think they were as good as the 360's.topcatyo


 What kind off? I only disagree with VF 5, on X360 also.
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#18 Imallvol7
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I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
dimar19
dimar, fix the post. Have you even played VF5 or Motorstorm or Resistance? All three of those way outclass Kameo, DOA4, and PD0. ANd Gran Tursimo HD was free for us. The rest are multiplats. Don't act like the 360 had anything before Gears of War.
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#19 haris12121212
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ummmmmm who care about reviews?Kev_Unreal
Ummm almost everyoen on SW...
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#20 Imallvol7
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Cows don't play games. As long as they can drop their virtual Bravias down some virtual stairs, while being surrounded by advertising DESPITE already paying $600 for the system, they're happy.

Oh, but they have virtual billiards in their "HOME".

Number_1_Gamer
i love the jealousy that HOME has brought.
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#21 DementedDragon
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I don't buy my games based on someone elses opinion alone.
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#22 l1mIt
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on PC, on PC, on PC... ect.....= not exclusive
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#23 Kahuna_1
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Cows don't play games. As long as they can drop their virtual Bravias down some virtual stairs, while being surrounded by advertising DESPITE already paying $600 for the system, they're happy.

Oh, but they have virtual billiards in their "HOME".

Number_1_Gamer

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#24 2largeadults
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
Imallvol7
dimar, fix the post. Have you even played VF5 or Motorstorm or Resistance? All three of those way outclass Kameo, DOA4, and PD0. ANd Gran Tursimo HD was free for us. The rest are multiplats. Don't act like the 360 had anything before Gears of War.

He has a point. Gears is great. But other than that, I see a lineup that looks fairly mundane.
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#25 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
Imallvol7
dimar, fix the post. Have you even played VF5 or Motorstorm or Resistance? All three of those way out****Kameo, DOA4, and PD0. ANd Gran Tursimo HD was free for us. The rest are multiplats. Don't act like the 360 had anything before Gears of War.

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it.  And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too.  and Resistance flopped.

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#26 alex1889
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I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
dimar19
u cant hurt the toddlers in ur playgrounds feelings so ur trying 2 hurt us cows, this is pethetic :l trying 2 justify purchase, or are u waiting 2 repurchase after the first 360 exploded
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#27 Warfust
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i love the jealousy that HOME has brought.Imallvol7
You wish, hehe. Home can't bring any yet, it's not here and won't be for quite some time. At least it's "You'll see in 6 months!" this time rather than "Wait until next month!"
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on PC, on PC, on PC... ect.....= not exclusivel1mIt
Microsoft XP, Microsoft Vista, Microsoft Games For Windows Brand. Microsoft PC and 360 games department run by Peter Moore. Sorry, I dont care if your a mod or not. To act like a company can loose an exclusive to itself in its same department on both platforms they own is one of the illlogical things ever.
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#30 TuneSeeker
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[QUOTE="TuneSeeker"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]ummmmmm who care about reviews?topcatyo

Five bucks says that if you had good games on launch you'd be saying "NU UH OUR GAMES GOT GOOD REVIEWS TOO"

And Xbox fanboys would say reviews don't matter if they didn't have AAA games.

I still don't understand why people are suprised by fanboy hypocrasy.

Good point
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#31 lowe0
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[QUOTE="Philosoma"]Sony really needs to get some awesome games out. I see 360 going the way of the Dreamcast, which also had a sweet lineup but couldn't compete against the Playstation brand.HazeNPopes
Sony do have awesome games but according to fanboy logic, they`re "flops".

No, they have good games. Nothing on PS3 qualifies as awesome yet. And that's not going by reviews or AAA, but simply by looking at the games, there's nothing as compelling as GRAW, Vegas, Oblivion, or Gears. Sure, the PS3 is getting GRAW, Vegas and Oblivion, but the 360 already has them.
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#32 echelon
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Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

kingsfan_0333


He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.
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#34 HazeNPopes
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[QUOTE="HazeNPopes"][QUOTE="Philosoma"]Sony really needs to get some awesome games out. I see 360 going the way of the Dreamcast, which also had a sweet lineup but couldn't compete against the Playstation brand.lowe0
Sony do have awesome games but according to fanboy logic, they`re "flops".

No, they have good games. Nothing on PS3 qualifies as awesome yet. And that's not going by reviews or AAA, but simply by looking at the games, there's nothing as compelling as GRAW, Vegas, Oblivion, or Gears. Sure, the PS3 is getting GRAW, Vegas and Oblivion, but the 360 already has them.

No, it`s awesome but it`s all opinions.
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#35 topcatyo
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[QUOTE="l1mIt"]on PC, on PC, on PC... ect.....= not exclusiveps3-nikita
Microsoft XP, Microsoft Vista, Microsoft Games For Windows Brand. Microsoft PC and 360 games department run by Peter Moore. Sorry, I dont care if your a mod or not. To act like a company can loose an exclusive to itself in its same department on both platforms they own is one of the illlogical things ever.

Companies don't matter with exclusives.

People will not buy a 360 if they can get it on a PC People may upgrade their parts, but I don't think Microsoft gets money for graphics cards that people buy.  Either way, exclusive, by definition, means "not on anything else".

[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

XGuNn3rX



He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

And COD2 got AAA at Gamerankings.
GG, Cow.

COD2 is on the PC, also.  It's not exclusive.

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#36 -The-G-Man-
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Was there a big argument over games that got an 8.7 or better that I missed?echelon

Well, the cows were saying the 360 had crappy games a couple months after launch, too.  Some even said that htye had no good games until Gears.

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#37 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

echelon



He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

only if you pick and choose games to make your point. :|

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#38 Uzburacuz9
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
Imallvol7
dimar, fix the post. Have you even played VF5 or Motorstorm or Resistance? All three of those way outclass Kameo, DOA4, and PD0. ANd Gran Tursimo HD was free for us. The rest are multiplats. Don't act like the 360 had anything before Gears of War.

OUCH!!!!. lol
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#39 echelon
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[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

XGuNn3rX


He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

And COD2 got AAA at Gamerankings.
GG, Cow.


If he would have mentioned COD2 then I would have included that. Do I really need to tell you that before this week out of all of the 360 games that got 8.0 or above from Gamespot or Gamerankings there was 40 games(not inluding arcade). Out of those 40 Gamespot gave a higher rating to 27 of them, a lower rating to 9 of them and 4 were a tie.
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#40 love-all-system
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ummmmmm who care about reviews?Kev_Unreal
ummmmm almost eveyone on SW
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#41 echelon
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[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

CaseyWegner



He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

only if you pick and choose games to make your point. :|


I posted hard statistical data the other day and you locked the thread in about 10 seconds. Do you want me to post it again?
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#42 l1mIt
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[QUOTE="l1mIt"]on PC, on PC, on PC... ect.....= not exclusiveps3-nikita
Microsoft XP, Microsoft Vista, Microsoft Games For Windows Brand. Microsoft PC and 360 games department run by Peter Moore. Sorry, I dont care if your a mod or not. To act like a company can loose an exclusive to itself in its same department on both platforms they own is one of the illlogical things ever.



say i was going to buy a xflop1.5 and Geow because i thought geow was a system seller. M$ just lost 400$ for the console, and 50$ for the game... 450$ they didnt get from be because they lost the exclusive. id rather buy it on PC for 50$... theres ways of getting the game without even buying it...so in the end M$ studios will get 0$ from me.
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#43 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
Imallvol7
dimar, fix the post. Have you even played VF5 or Motorstorm or Resistance? All three of those way out****Kameo, DOA4, and PD0. ANd Gran Tursimo HD was free for us. The rest are multiplats. Don't act like the 360 had anything before Gears of War.

he just provided a list and gave the scores to back them up. :|

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#44 Kev_Unreal
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[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]ummmmmm who care about reviews?TuneSeeker
Five bucks says that if you had good games on launch you'd be saying "NU UH OUR GAMES GOT GOOD REVIEWS TOO"

Launch? what are you talking about?:?

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/ageofempires/index.html

There my reason, after seeing the Age of Empire score I simply don't care about reviews.

btw Five bucks says that your a Lemming.

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#45 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

echelon



He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

only if you pick and choose games to make your point. :|


I posted hard statistical data the other day and you locked the thread in about 10 seconds. Do you want me to post it again?

here.

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#46 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

echelon



He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

Aren't you hiding behind the "well Gamerankings says this...." umbrella?  If ps3 fanboys want to believe that there is some kind of conspiracy than that is there choice, but I don't understand why they are surprised when nobody else seems to buy into it.

Motorstorm has week online multiplayer and no offline multiplayer...what kind of rating do you expect?  If everything revolves around graphics capabilities than the xbox would have won last generation...and they sure didn't.

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#47 shungokustasu
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I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
dimar19
Are you teaching us that AA games are good too? PS3 has AA games also. We have more AA games than 360 at this time.
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#48 -KinGz-
Member since 2006 • 5232 Posts
[QUOTE="dimar19"]I'm getting tired of all this extremely dumb posts of some cows, so March 2006, X360 games:

Kameo - 8.7
DOA 4 - 8.8
PGR 3 - 8.8
COD 2 - 8.8
Burnout Revenge - 8.8 (actually it must be AAA cause the game a way better PS2/Xbox versions)
GRAW - AAA
PDZ - AAA
Oblivion - AAA

PS 3 in March 2007 (not 2006) - no even one game with score at least 8.7

Cows, fix the brain.
Imallvol7
dimar, fix the post. Have you even played VF5 or Motorstorm or Resistance? All three of those way outclass Kameo, DOA4, and PD0. ANd Gran Tursimo HD was free for us. The rest are multiplats. Don't act like the 360 had anything before Gears of War.

It had, AMAZING games before Gears of war, while u got a nice fighter, a pretty looking but dull playing racer, and a generic shooter.
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#49 kingsfan_0333
Member since 2006 • 1878 Posts

[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="l1mIt"]on PC, on PC, on PC... ect.....= not exclusivetopcatyo

Microsoft XP, Microsoft Vista, Microsoft Games For Windows Brand. Microsoft PC and 360 games department run by Peter Moore. Sorry, I dont care if your a mod or not. To act like a company can loose an exclusive to itself in its same department on both platforms they own is one of the illlogical things ever.

Companies don't matter with exclusives.

People will not buy a 360 if they can get it on a PC People may upgrade their parts, but I don't think Microsoft gets money for graphics cards that people buy.  Either way, exclusive, by definition, means "not on anything else".

[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

Motorstorm flopped. Deal with it. And VF5 is multiplat, so deal with that too. and Resistance flopped.

XGuNn3rX



He is right though. Gamerankings scores:

Resistance 8.8 PDZ 8.1
VF5 8.8 DOA4 8.6
Motorstorm 8.5 Kameo 8.1

Now you can hide behind the "well only GS matters in system wars" umbrella but some of us realize that GS overscores alot of 360 games and underscores PS3 games.

And COD2 got AAA at Gamerankings.
GG, Cow.

COD2 is on the PC, also.  It's not exclusive.

Hiding behind the "pc" umbrella?  I guess we'll say console-exclusive then...although i don't see why people bring the pc into a 360 vs ps3 discussion. 

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#50 echelon
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here.CaseyWegner


Ok fair enough,

40 games, including Crackdown if anyone was wondering.
27 of those games were rated higher by Gamespot.
9 games were rated higher on average by the rest of the reviewers.
4 games were an exact tie.

Average scores for GS: 8.445
Average for the rest of the reviewers: 8.31

All of the AAA games at GS were rated higher by GS.

I did this comparison also with the PS3, althought there wasnt really enough data for a good conclusion.

10 games for PS3
5 of those games were rated higher by Gamespot.
4 games were rated higher on average by the rest of the reviewers.
1 game was an exact tie.

Average scores for GS: 8.19

Average for the rest of the reviewers: 8.31

Ironically Gamerankings had the same avg score for top games on the PS3 as they did for the 360.

If you want also I can post the entire spread sheet of games when I get home.